PC. vs Xbox 360

Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:37 pm

Alot of comments don't relate to what the OP asked.

I'm debating whether or not to purchase the game for PC or Xbox. I enjoyed my Morrowind and Oblivion experience on the PC a great deal. I like the precision controls that I had on the PC, as well as the sound, graphics, and overall feeling of immersion I got. I also liked being able to download mods that people created.


Your answer is simple, get it for the PC. Well that is if your current PC is capable for it.
I did however feel somewhat disconnected from my friends who played the Xbox version. Can't really point to why, but it seems that somehow our experiences differed. When I finally did play the Xbox version, I really struggled to get the same precision out of my controller (mainly in ranged combat). I've also had this experience with the 360 version of Fallout 3. The controls seem VERY clunky to me. I have enjoyed the control scheme on games like Halo though, which makes aiming and shooting much easier. Now I know TES games are not shooters, but Fallout does have lots of gunplay and it's tough unless you use the VATS.


More proof that you shouldn't be playing on the 360. You are not enjoying the experiance on the Xbox, and you really enjoy the features what you get from the PC. So it's simple PC it is for you.
One other factor in my mind is that I'm married, and I hate to be cooped up my our computer room playing when if I'm on my Xbox I could be enjoying the game and in the company of my wife. Anyways, what do ya'll think? Anyone else had similar experiences? Basically I'm looking for an overall immersion in the game as well as the best possible controls I can get.

As others have said. Can you not put the PC into the livingroom besides the TV and use it for your monitor? I don't know why people said to put the 360 controller on the PC since you like the precisions the PC gives you. You will not have it without the mouse and keyboard.

I am fine with it on the 360, but it seems you will have a more enjoyable experiance with the PC. So it's the PC. Now if you can't put the PC to your livingroom and or hook it up to your TV, then you have to ask yourself, without playing Skyrim on the PC first, can you get use to the less percision on the 360?

Most TVs of today can have a PC hooked up to them. Does your computer have HDMI output? Does it have (sorry forget the name) Yellow jack output? Can your TV accept these? If so, then you can have your TV as your monitor. Then you can always get a wireless mouse and keyboard, if the wires and cables become a problem for you.

I just don't understand how your experiance differ from your friends who play on the 360. Without counting mods, the experiance should be the same. You go into the room, or you go to that city or you do this quest, they should all be the same. The story is the same. Game play or mechanics is the same. The only difference is if you prefer mouse and keyboard which you do, or game controller which other people do, like me.

So can you have your PC into your livingroom, or where ever your TV, and you spend time with your wife and who ever.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:25 am

I only play on the 360. I don't see how anyone says that the controls are clunky. They respond just fine for me and many, many other gamers as well with pinpoint accuracy.

I also cannot use these games on the PC. Most of the mods I have checked out that my friends have downloaded have been crap, I would much prefer the DLC on Live than worry about what someone made with the various construction sets.


This is all just my opinion and is meant in no way to flame anyone, nor is it directed to anyone in specific. I just much prefer the console experience to anything that the PC could ever offer. Gimme the 360 over the PC any day of the week. =)

:obliviongate:

90% of /everything/ is crap. There are mountains 3 miles high of poor quality weapon meshes, or 9999-damage weapons, or poor attempts at six mods.
It's the 10% that makes it worthwhile. Things like OOO, Midas Magic, Deadly Reflex, Supreme Magicka, nGCD, Mart's Monster Mod, FCOM, All Natural, Better Cities, Unique Landscapes, LAME, RBP, COBL, the unofficial patches, Reneer's Guard Overhaul, and countless others are what makes it worthwhile. If you download at random, you will be disappointed, because for every great mod there are 10 crap ones. But my god, are those great ones worth it.

Also, it's trivial to plug in a wired 360 controller and plug your PC into your TV, and have exactly the same 'experience' a console would offer.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:18 am

Also, it's trivial to plug in a wired 360 controller and plug your PC into your TV, and have exactly the same 'experience' a console would offer.

That is why I say, just plug the PC into your TV and volia, best of both worlds.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:40 am

Ive put about equal hours into both versions and way prefer the PC version, simply because of the mods and higher res textures. I do prefer the 360 controller to the mouse and keyboard though, so hopefully SKyrim will support a 360 controller on the PC.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:55 am

I actually prefer the 360 control over mouse and keyboard these days, yes the mouse is more precise and everything, but the feeling of moving naturally and the immersion lacks with keyboard/mouse, it takes a loooong time to be able to adapt to the 360 control on hyper stick sensitivity and prefer it to mouse though, but I prefer it nowdays.

Anyway, I will get the PC version simply because of the mods.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:07 pm

90% of /everything/ is crap. There are mountains 3 miles high of poor quality weapon meshes, or 9999-damage weapons, or poor attempts at six mods.
It's the 10% that makes it worthwhile. Things like OOO, Midas Magic, Deadly Reflex, Supreme Magicka, nGCD, Mart's Monster Mod, FCOM, All Natural, Better Cities, Unique Landscapes, LAME, RBP, COBL, the unofficial patches, Reneer's Guard Overhaul, and countless others are what makes it worthwhile. If you download at random, you will be disappointed, because for every great mod there are 10 crap ones. But my god, are those great ones worth it.

Also, it's trivial to plug in a wired 360 controller and plug your PC into your TV, and have exactly the same 'experience' a console would offer.

That's not true at all, and it's easy to spot the bad ones from a mile away. They'll have names like "AXE OF THE GODS" and descriptions like "this adds really cool axe!!!!!!" and there's no pictures or anything. I don't even see those when I look for mods. Just going to TESnexus, searching in any category, then categorizing by most downloads first or highest endorsemants first and you'll get page after page after page of wonderful mods.

There are a TON of absolutely fantastic mods. Mods with poor weapon meshes or default weapons with godlike abilities are not the norm.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:58 am

That's not true at all, and it's easy to spot the bad ones from a mile away. They'll have names like "AXE OF THE GODS" and descriptions like "this adds really cool axe!!!!!!" and there's no pictures or anything. I don't even see those when I look for mods. Just going to TESnexus, searching in any category, then categorizing by most downloads first or highest endorsemants first and you'll get page after page after page of wonderful mods.

There are a TON of absolutely fantastic mods. Mods with poor weapon meshes or default weapons with godlike abilities are not the norm.


Oh, I'm not saying the good ones are hard to find, just that however you spin it, there's a lot of horse armours for every SI. It's just that the good ones are really [censored] good.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:14 pm

Is money an object?

There is a device for kb&m support on the 360, but you'd have spend ~$150. You can still use your monitor, hooking up to it through the HDMI.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/05/xim3-xbox-360-keyboard-mouse-etc-adapter-goes-on-sale-imme/



$150 and you get to stay on the same page as your friends and you wife can still use the TV.


...As for the loss of mods, well... you can always get the PC version later. Heck, just don't but the DLC for the 360 and that money should cover the GOTY.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:18 am

Well if they make the 360 controller compatible perfectly like it would be for the xbox 360 on the PC version, then you can have the amazing graphics of the PC with the comfort of the controller. Also you can still play it on the tv by hooking it up to your tv with an hdmi cable. So basically you can turn your PC into a console if the controller is compatible. I just prefer the 360 controller for TES than the pc controls, I like to lounge while playing for a four days straight without sleep lol.

The way I play on pc is almost like I am on the couch. My feet are up on the couch and I am leaning back on my chair, its hard to describe.

As for the question, depend on how much your planing on playing. PC with mods will last a lot longer, on the other hand the game will have a lot of content and for the reasons you have stated you may be better off on the 360.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:53 pm

Fallout 3 supported the Xbox 360 controller on the PC so I'm guessing Skyrim will as well.

^ I don't have that controller, but a generic (AirFloEx) controller, so to me this unanimous (monopolistic) support for just one controller is getting pretty stale. However I got it working very well with a controller emulator of sorts :shrug:

I find the controller great for variety and when you just want to lean back and relax - or for driving around in "Mafia" :D - but I mostly prefer the keybord and mouse for accuracy ...
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:43 pm

I personally like consoles more because it feels like a more "solid" game. I can't cheat via the console, and even having that options makes it feel less of an experience for me, even if I don't use it. I guess it's because when someone shows me a high level character with 90% of the game completed on the PC, I'm like, ok, I can do that in about 30 minutes via console commands. But on a console, you know they actually took the time. It feels more authentic.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:52 pm

I play on the 360 because I dont have the PC or money for a PC to properly run Oblivion or Skyrim. I have no problem whatsoever with the 360 but I would play with a PC if you have the system for it. The amount of mods greatly increase the replay value and add so much more.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:24 am

I waiting to see the System Requirements before making my choice. I don't know if I can convince my wife the computer needs upgraded again. Especially for pretty much the only game I'm interested in on PC. A bit of RAM or a new Graphics Card would be okay, but I have a feeling I'm going to need to do more. I've still only got an AMD dual-core 6000+ processor, and I don't think the motherboard can take much more, if I remember right.

It'll probably be PS3 for me.


I'm in pretty much the same position. I'll basically need to buy an entirely new desktop to run Skyrim to my satisfaction on PC - the Macbook Pro I've been playing Oblivion on is more powerful than my desktop. Just with a quick glance at the prices of parts, I think a new PC will cost me about twice as much as an Xbox 360.

As for mods.... well, the only reason I didn't cave and buy a new desktop for Oblivion is because some mods were pretty much essential. I couldn't do without OOO or the immersive interface.

But if vanilla Skyrim doesn't have these sorts of issues, where mods are basically necessary for me to get any substantial enjoyment out of the game, then I'll probably think that a saving of about $500 is worth not having mods. :shrug:

I guess I need to think of other things to possibly justify the purchase of a new PC.... Starcraft II? Use it as a HTPC? :D
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:42 am

Am I thr only one who is to tempted to use console commands on the copm. Maybe cause I played obliv on my xbox first
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:51 am

I personally like consoles more because it feels like a more "solid" game. I can't cheat via the console, and even having that options makes it feel less of an experience for me, even if I don't use it. I guess it's because when someone shows me a high level character with 90% of the game completed on the PC, I'm like, ok, I can do that in about 30 minutes via console commands. But on a console, you know they actually took the time. It feels more authentic.

And on console there are dozens of easily exploitable features that are inherent to the game, not platform specific. If you go at it right, oblivion can be an incredibly easy game. Indeed, if you go at it WRONG, you still pretty much can't fail. I play games for fun, not to brag to my friends, so the fact that my copy of oblivion is substantially harder in many ways is incidental - because it doesn't matter either way. I play for fun.
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And on console there are dozens of easily exploitable features that are inherent to the game, not platform specific. If you go at it right, oblivion can be an incredibly easy game. Indeed, if you go at it WRONG, you still pretty much can't fail. I play games for fun, not to brag to my friends, so the fact that my copy of oblivion is substantially harder in many ways is incidental - because it doesn't matter either way. I play for fun.

I wasn't asking for your permission to have my personal opinion on which is better. ;)
I feel that way about the situation because, well, I just do. Nothing you can say will change that lol.
And no, there are no gameplay exploits that let you do what you can to the extent that you can via the console on a PC. There's nothing you can do on a console to add hundreds of items in your inventory at the same time, or complete entire quest chains by entering a command. There are minor exploits, that's it.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:34 am

I wasn't asking for your permission to have my personal opinion on which is better. ;)
I feel that way about the situation because, well, I just do. Nothing you can say will change that lol.


And similarly, I'm disagreeing with your position based on it being based on a logical fallacy, and nothing you can say will change *that* :)
edit: The console does not let you complete 90% of the game, it lets you set 90% of the game complete. "Minor exploits" like stacking weakness to magicka are far more gamebreaking, made worse by the fact it's vanilla and apparently intended. You don't /need/ console commands when you can become an invulnerable god who can 3-hit-kill everything in the game.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:15 am

I personally like consoles more because it feels like a more "solid" game. I can't cheat via the console, and even having that options makes it feel less of an experience for me, even if I don't use it. I guess it's because when someone shows me a high level character with 90% of the game completed on the PC, I'm like, ok, I can do that in about 30 minutes via console commands. But on a console, you know they actually took the time. It feels more authentic.

And the only reasoning behind that is will power. If you (not you, but a imaginary example person) cannot play the game on PC without cheating your way with the console then that's their problem. And I don't mean someone doing it for fun I mean their game experience is somehow lessened because they "have" to use cheats. If you cannot resist using cheats then that's a mental problem you should solve.

Besides, the console versions still have plenty of cheats and exploits. Hell, Morrowind literally had cheat codes.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:03 am

Just to put it out there. You can connect a PS3 Controller to your PC if you install a driver. I have used something called DS3 Tool. I have used a cable, but i will guess that it can be done wireless if you have blutooth.

I have also connected my PC to the TV through HDMI. If you dont have an HDMI output on your pc, you can use an adapter to convert DVI to HDMI.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:19 pm

Morrowind literally had cheat codes.


I haven't used those codes in years. But when I first got the game, it was very difficult for me. I still remember them...

BLACKWHITEBLACKBLACKBLACK HOLD A, EXIT MENU WHILE STILL HOLDING A

It's funny, because your heath would just refill itself. And yet, at level one, people could still kill you pretty easily. Sometimes they would damage you faster than your health could refill. Eventually I stopped using them entirely, for obvious reasons.

Anyways on topic...

I'm going to get the 360 version first. If I actually decide to upgrade my PC sometime in 2012, then I'll probably just buy it again for PC. I have both PC and 360 versions of Oblivion, and I play both. :)
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:27 am

Here's my view. I play PC, I don't own a console besides a SNES. Right now PC looks better graphically and for me the controls are more natural. The PC version has more longevity due to mods.

Console you can play on a couch. You can more freely play with a friend and take turns playing. You can even borrow the game to or from a friend or rent the game. For those that play console the controls will feel much more natural for them. I have trouble with the whole FPS thing on consoles, I svck at halo for that reason. Usually you also have a bigger viewing area with a console. I mean now a days you most likely have a widescreen TV to go with the console (or is that just a stereotype?).

I am getting it on the PC because that is just what I play. For those that can play either and don't have a particular preference for each, I'd recommend PC for the brilliant mods that always get created by authors.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:13 pm

I've always played Elder Scrolls on consoles and never regretted it. I'm planning to buy my copy for PS3.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:18 am

I'm debating whether or not to purchase the game for PC or Xbox. I enjoyed my Morrowind and Oblivion experience on the PC a great deal. I like the precision controls that I had on the PC, as well as the sound, graphics, and overall feeling of immersion I got. I also liked being able to download mods that people created.

I did however feel somewhat disconnected from my friends who played the Xbox version. Can't really point to why, but it seems that somehow our experiences differed. When I finally did play the Xbox version, I really struggled to get the same precision out of my controller (mainly in ranged combat). I've also had this experience with the 360 version of Fallout 3. The controls seem VERY clunky to me. I have enjoyed the control scheme on games like Halo though, which makes aiming and shooting much easier. Now I know TES games are not shooters, but Fallout does have lots of gunplay and it's tough unless you use the VATS.

One other factor in my mind is that I'm married, and I hate to be cooped up my our computer room playing when if I'm on my Xbox I could be enjoying the game and in the company of my wife. Anyways, what do ya'll think? Anyone else had similar experiences? Basically I'm looking for an overall immersion in the game as well as the best possible controls I can get.

Well if you're still in question which to purchase, I suggest the PC version. You've played the previous games on PC, and it would appear to be in your realm of comfort. I fail to see the disconnect you feel towards your friends. Since this is single player, other then the platform, game experience should be quite similar.

Your last problem is... well, a problem. I had this idea that I could bank some game time by hanging out with the wife more. Apparently it doesn't quite work like that. You're basically in a lose-lose situation. If you play on the 360, your wife cannot watch TV. So I'd recommend subscribing to some better channels, or maybe Netflix (on the 360) to keep her occupied, while you're hidden away on your computer. :)
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:48 am

PC without a question for me. Two reasons: mods and the console. I'd only play a console version if I was waiting to upgrade my PC, but I'd eventually buy the PC version anyway. The difference for both Morrowind and Oblivion with mods is night and day. I played Morrowind on my xbox probably 10 times. Playing it on the PC with mods was like a whole new game. Same thing for playing vanilla Oblivion (and Fallout 3 and New Vegas) and again with mods. If you don't care about mods, then you may as well go with a console.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:05 am

If you have both its pc for the win, contruction set baby, but if your poor xbox rocks, also I've always found fp games more fun on console, feels more like I'm doing it, where as pc for rts and sim ganes, well I would is cnc wasn't toast nowadays :( so I'll be playing first on xbox then pc after xmass when it's re ubered!
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