meh, no big deal

Umm... what? The PS2 (and probably the PS1, dunno for certain) was more expensive to make than they sold it for originally too. Most consoles have always been like that, that is the way the console model works. Sell the hardware at a loss, make it back on the software side. This is including BEFORE Microsoft released the Xbox. I don't know what you mean by Sony complaining about something, not even clear what you mean they are complaining about.


Well, there is Xbox connect, which is the only way to play Halo 2 on the Xbox over the Internet now.

That's free now? Nice!

This , come on eight years and I am surprised it hasn't raised twice or three times. Sheesh it's $10 extra dollars. If you have the money for a 360 , live and games you shouldn't be whining about this.

I think the fact that everyone else gets online play for free, and the price of online play for the Xbox is going up is more than grounds enough for whining.

And thinking like this is exactly why big shots in the industry can get away with anything....

Oh no, where will I meet loudmouths, racists and jerks now?

nevermind.

The internet, or site that cant be named

No complaints from me

My 360 just gathers dust really, get on a few times here and there for some MW2 or some RDR, but that is very rarely.

With the amount of complaining going on here it seems like some people need a J.O.B. :rolleyes:

That's not the point. There is no reason at all for M$ to raise the price. $50 is already too much and they have hardly added anything to make it worth an extra 10 bucks.

i dont even get why inflation gets any lee-way here... i know pay checks haven't seen as much inflation

The money isn't the point, it's the principal of it. There's very little reason for basic online play to cost money AT ALL, it doesn't even go through their servers. If you think that being charged for something that costs MS nothing is fine...

I just honestly don't understand how people can not care? Do they *like* giving other people their hard earned money for no reason? Are they *happy* that they can give them more? Do they think that because they're paying far more than it's worth, it's somehow a better product? I just cannot comprehend how people not only stand by and let this happen, but defend it. You're paying for the right to give MS money (XBLA), be advertised on, and use your own console and internet connection for p2p online play. It's [censored] ridiculous that anybody could think that's a good state of affairs.

$50 too much a year?If it really bothers you than switch to PS3.


Becuse there are bigger problems for them then giving $60 a year to Microsoft.

PC gamer here.
And as I said, it's not the amount. It's the principal.

"All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing"
You are paying for a service that not too long ago would have been free. You are paying for a service that advertises. You are paying for a service that costs the company you are buying it off very little to run. Yes, there are bigger problems in the world, but that doesn't excuse sticking your head in the sand.

*edit* too argumentitive.

I'd agree with you if I'd only started complinaing about it now. I have not, I've thought MS' pricing schemes for the 360 were disgusting from the start.

I agree with you here. I havn't gotten Gold Live for that reason. But now after all these years I am starting to see, it's not really that bad. Yes we shouldn't have to pay to play multiplayer, but Microsoft is hosting the sites and the servers for this to make possible, so I guess they can charge for it. For me, I don't play much multiplayer games so I havn't gotten gold yet.

I thought I would get Gold when Halo 3 came out. I never did. Now Halo reach is coming out, I am thinking of getting it. My son loves it. I am just waiting for the Family package that is suppose to be coming out. I havn't herd anything from it now for a few months so I am wundering if the Family Xbox Live Gold package has been cancelled now.

Wait, what?

Evil? Charging 1 more dollar per month for XBL?

Oh yes, I think Microsoft are forging a ring of power as we speak! Hellfire will be raining down any minute because they raised the price by 1 single dollar!

It's slightly less than a dollar, actually
But no, as meagre as the amount may be, that does not alter its necessity. Truly, they make enough money from peripheral sales, and software sales, to dwarf the cost of running a few servers that merely find a host, and let them do the actual hosting. Alas, it appears that this is not the case, as the price must increase! The advertisemants simply must stay, for how else would the small company of Microsoft get by? Absolutely, they require 200% markups on hard drives, indeed digital copies of games simply must be more expensive than their retail counterparts, for without these practices how could they possibly sustain a service that requires you to pay for everything anyway?

No, I see now how I am in the wrong, truly they should charge more for this service, for how else would one access facebook, or twitter, or watch television over the internet? Why, doing such tasks would be impossible without microsoft's unbridled generosity!

Really doesn't bother me :shrug:

I'm kind of angry at this. Not the price, but the fact that Micro$oft has the nerve to demand more money from their hardcoe fanbase that they barely even care about anymore. They ditched all of us so they could put their time and effort into Kinect, which ended up being a laggy piece of crap. If you're going to abandon your hardcoe fans to make a motion controller, it had better [censored] work! M$ wants money from us, but they give us no reason to play our consoles! The only game the 360 is getting next year is Gears of War 3. Why do they want me to pay more for a service that I have no games to play on?! It's [censored] greed, that's what is it. M$ doesn't give two flying [censored]s about their customer. At least Nintendo is making games for their hardcoe audience now, and even when they weren't, they were never asking for much from their fanbase anyway. Don't give, don't receive. Whatever. Sony is taking risks by publishing games like Heavy Rain, so that people can experience different things. But M$ is a completely different story. Whereas most respectable companies offer a service for money, M$ just keeps demanding more from their customers without giving them [censored]-all!

But yeah, $60 isn't that bad . . . I'm just mad that M$ isn't giving people a reason to renew their subscriptions and pay the extra money. I'm done with supporting the 360 for now. I want to support a company like Sony or Nintendo, one that gives a [censored] about my needs. M$ better get their act together.

I honestly see absolutely no problem with this whatsoever.
It's called economics, people, and it happens everyday all over the world. No price is set in stone, and they never said they never would raise the price. So...ok? Move along, nothing to see here, just yet another business doing their jobs. :shrug:

:rofl:

Paying for a service that generates income via advertisemants just seems foolish. I pay for HBO so I can watch movies without advertising. If I were to pay for HBO and they started running commercials I would find that to be obnoxious and I would terminate my contract with them.

I pay for my internet connection, so I can game online without having to pay again just to enjoy online gaming.