Xbox live to increase.

Post » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:00 am

Man we are pathetic arn't we? There is so much going in the world right now, so much injustice in the world, and here we are complaining about a $1 a month increase. "Oh It's the prinicple" some people are saying. Are you [censored] kidding me? What about all those deaths in Rawanda? What about all the other injustice that goes on where Humans die everday because we do nothing about it? What about all those animals that are set to be slaughtered are treated inhumanely? There is so much more to yell about on principle than something that is a $1 a month increase. Oh shure, let 1000's of people die in the world. Let our fellow man suffer, but heave forbid something that increases in price for a $1 a month, we need to band together and take a stand for a $1 month increase.

Yes we are pathectic when we have to raise our voices and complain about a $1 months increase. I don't even think it comes to a $1 a month.


You are kidding me, right?
So what, we're only allowed to feel that one thing "Isn't right" at a time? We have to solve all the problems of the world before we start THINKING about complaining about being overcharged for a service?

I don't know about you, but I can think about more than one thing at once (Or, much like a computer, can swap between multiple things fast enough), and saying that because there are greater evils in the world, we should ignore minor annoyances is a completely rediculous thing to say.
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Post » Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:29 pm

that is definitely wrong, and the whole "if you dont like something then shut-up and sit in your corner" mentality is getting tiresome


Reality can get tiresome, that doesn't change it.

It's not like you are somehow entitled to get XBL Gold for free. Microsoft have been open with the fact that it's a paid service from the start, and since the price has dragged behind inflation, they are now correcting it.
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Post » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:55 am

that is definitely wrong, and the whole "if you dont like something then shut-up and sit in your corner" mentality is getting tiresome

You know what's also annoying? Something that's very common with this forum. People constantly complaining about every single little thing ever like it's the end of all humanity.
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Post » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:16 pm

You know what's also annoying? Something that's very common with this forum. People constantly complaining about every single little thing ever like it's the end of all humanity.

i've actually never seen that except in the threads that actually state "its the end of humanity" in their titles
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Post » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:34 pm

Funny thing is that all of you are complaining about the price increase but you all are still going to buy it. :nono: lol
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Post » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:26 am

Funny thing is that all of you are complaining about the price increase but you all are still going to buy it. :nono: lol

haven't bought a single month of gold
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Post » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:29 am

You are kidding me, right?
So what, we're only allowed to feel that one thing "Isn't right" at a time? We have to solve all the problems of the world before we start THINKING about complaining about being overcharged for a service?

I don't know about you, but I can think about more than one thing at once (Or, much like a computer, can swap between multiple things fast enough), and saying that because there are greater evils in the world, we should ignore minor annoyances is a completely rediculous thing to say.

Well yes and no that I am kidding. Unlike you, I can't multitask. I guess I am handi capped by that way. I can't think about more than one thing at once. Oh well I have a learning disability. What can I do? But as you said, about multiasking, where are the other posts about the greater evils in the world? I do not see them. All I see is the minor annoyances. Yes we shouldn't ignore them, but it seems we are ignoring the greater evils though. That is my point. There is worse things in the world than a $1 a month increase.

I just find it funny people will take a stand on minor annyoneces, but will not take a stand on the greater evils. (I made a post something like this so not to derail this thread any futher.)
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Post » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:01 am

haven't bought a single month of gold


A tad strange of you to complain, then, seeing as how you have nothing to complain about.
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Post » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:46 pm

Funny thing is that all of you are complaining about the price increase but you all are still going to buy it. :nono: lol

I sure will be buying it. Because I'm not petty and 1 dollar a month extra doesn't break my life and the very core of my existence like some of you seem to think it does.
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Post » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:38 am

Well yes and no that I am kidding. Unlike you, I can't multitask. I guess I am handi capped by that way. I can't think about more than one thing at once. Oh well I have a learning disability. What can I do? But as you said, about multiasking, where are the other posts about the greater evils in the world? I do not see them. All I see is the minor annoyances. Yes we shouldn't ignore them, but it seems we are ignoring the greater evils though. That is my point. There is worse things in the world than a $1 a month increase.

I just find it funny people will take a stand on minor annyoneces, but will not take a stand on the greater evils. (I made a post something like this so not to derail this thread any futher.)


Because the major evils require greater action than a forum post, wheras the minor annoyances do not. None of us seriously believe we can change MS' ways, regardless of how long an internet petition was created. That doesn't mean we have to like it.
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Post » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:40 am

haven't bought a single month of gold

Then why even get worked up about it.
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Post » Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:25 pm

Because the major evils require greater action than a forum post, wheras the minor annoyances do not. None of us seriously believe we can change MS' ways, regardless of how long an internet petition was created. That doesn't mean we have to like it.

So are people complaining for the sake of complaining then? I would love Microsoft to give Xbox Live Gold for free. Then Microsoft can say, we are shutting it down because it costs us too much money to run for what little return they get.

Don't forget Microsoft is not just one company. You have the side that makes softwars operating systems. You have another that makes consoles. You have another that makes games. You have another that does Xbox Live. It costs money to run Xbox Live. If it was free and died down, how would you play your multiplayer games then? The other departments would still be up and running but Xbox Live would be gone because it costs money to run it. Why would you put money to run something if you are not getting anything back?
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Post » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:38 pm

Yeah..I've come to expect that response from him. ^_^

Anyway, XBL offers more than any other online gaming service as far as consoles goes. And don't even try to lie and say that PS3's online nation whatever-the-hell nonsense they have going on even compares to XBL. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying it was right for them to increase the price for no reason, but some companies have to do that because of money issues. And it's not like business is a'boomin' with M$.

And if Microsoft wants to charge for all extra features except online multiplayer, I'd be fine like that. As I said: I have no problems with paying for the extras, but the multiplayer part should be free.

So are people complaining for the sake of complaining then? I would love Microsoft to give Xbox Live Gold for free. Then Microsoft can say, we are shutting it down because it costs us too much money to run for what little return they get.

Don't forget Microsoft is not just one company. You have the side that makes softwars operating systems. You have another that makes consoles. You have another that makes games. You have another that does Xbox Live. It costs money to run Xbox Live. If it was free and died down, how would you play your multiplayer games then? The other departments would still be up and running but Xbox Live would be gone because it costs money to run it. Why would you put money to run something if you are not getting anything back?

Everyone else can do online multiplayer for free. Almost all XBL games have at least partial server support by the game publisher, and don't rely on MS's servers alone. If XBL were to fail, everyone would use Xbox Connect instead (community XBL that supports all games that can use system link).
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Post » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:14 am

You know what's also annoying? Something that's very common with this forum. People constantly complaining about every single little thing ever like it's the end of all humanity.


That's the only thing you find annoying on this forum? I figured arrogance would've found it's way in there at least (it seems to be the only thing I ever see).
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Post » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:52 pm

And if Microsoft wants to charge for all extra features except online multiplayer, I'd be fine like that. As I said: I have no problems with paying for the extras, but the multiplayer part should be free.


Everyone else can do online multiplayer for free. Almost all XBL games have at least partial server support by the game publisher, and don't rely on MS's servers alone. If XBL were to fail, everyone would use Xbox Connect instead (community XBL that supports all games that can use system link).

Well I always thought multiplayer should be free as well. That is why I never got Gold. I don't think I should have to pay for multiplayer. Why am I arguing against others here? Because I think it' so stupid that Xbox Live Gold has been going on for 8 years and now people are complaining because it goes up a buck per month? You have been paying for it already and just to quit because of a $1 increase in over 8 years is just weird. I can see if the increases were frequent but first increase in 8 years and people complain?

Since I do not use Live Gold, can anyone tell me why, lots and lots of people say Xbox Live is so much better than PS3 version of the internet experiance? Could the service be better on Live because people pay for it, so more time and effort goes into making it a good experiance?
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Post » Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:52 pm

Well I always thought multiplayer should be free as well. That is why I never got Gold. I don't think I should have to pay for multiplayer. Why am I arguing against others here? Because I think it' so stupid that Xbox Live Gold has been going on for 8 years and now people are complaining because it goes up a buck per month? You have been paying for it already and just to quit because of a $1 increase in over 8 years is just weird. I can see if the increases were frequent but first increase in 8 years and people complain?

Since I do not use Live Gold, can anyone tell me why, lots and lots of people say Xbox Live is so much better than PS3 version of the internet experiance? Could the service be better on Live because people pay for it, so more time and effort goes into making it a good experiance?

I feel confident that most of the people who feel the price increase is wrong do so because they think that XBL shouldn't cost anything to begin with. They probably have in the past expressed their opinion on this, and this opened a new opportunity to once again express that opinion.

You don't go around just suddenly blurting our your opinion for no reason, something related to that opinion happens that makes you express it again. If you are in a thread about pets you don't talk about how wrong it is for XBL multiplayer to cost money, that is a complete non-sequitur. If you are walking down the street and suddenly blurt out about how XBL should be free, people are going to think you are a loon.
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Post » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:12 am

Well I always thought multiplayer should be free as well. That is why I never got Gold. I don't think I should have to pay for multiplayer. Why am I arguing against others here? Because I think it' so stupid that Xbox Live Gold has been going on for 8 years and now people are complaining because it goes up a buck per month? You have been paying for it already and just to quit because of a $1 increase in over 8 years is just weird. I can see if the increases were frequent but first increase in 8 years and people complain?

Since I do not use Live Gold, can anyone tell me why, lots and lots of people say Xbox Live is so much better than PS3 version of the internet experiance? Could the service be better on Live because people pay for it, so more time and effort goes into making it a good experiance?


You appear to, again, be implying I haven't complained from the start.
Additionally, I don't know much about the PS3 side of things, but as my experience with PC gaming has been flawless and unfaltering, I somewhat doubt XBL is massively better through giving MS money for them to provide no great service.
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Post » Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:10 pm

I've stopped caring about XBL a long time ago.

This.

I stopped playing on Xbox live when I would lose a game and people would say i was a [censored] or before a match i groaned when the guy said "hey you red team your red cos youve all got herpes!" the magic of online xbox play kinda drained away. Its no loss to me at all. Ive moved back to PS1&2 era. The good ol days.
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Post » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:26 am

You appear to, again, be implying I haven't complained from the start.
Additionally, I don't know much about the PS3 side of things, but as my experience with PC gaming has been flawless and unfaltering, I somewhat doubt XBL is massively better through giving MS money for them to provide no great service.

Sorry that wasn't my intention that you were implying something. Sorry.
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Post » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:18 am

I honestly could care less a little extra money for probably the best online gaming service around, As people have said its a result of inflation and really I've not had a better online experience elsewhere. (With the addition of all my friends having Xbox360's I have to get LIVE so I can play with my buds.) :tops:
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Post » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:45 pm

Then why even get worked up about it.

because i'm not going to be one of those hypocrites who buys something after boycotting the product/service
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Post » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:06 am

The price increase can only be due to one of two things:
1. Microsoft believes that they can maximize profits by charging more, and the increased monthly price will increase revenue enough to offset the loss in number of subscribers.
2. Microsoft is completely incompetent at running a subscription service and therefore actually needs to do the unthinkable and raise prices just to cover the cost of maintenance.

Remember people, the whole goal of a subscription based service is to eliminate per user overhead. This means that (if done correctly) there will be a finite amount of overhead and an infinite amount of potential customers (not truly infinite, as there are only so many people, but you get the idea). Adding more consumers increases profit. They allege that they are doing it incorrectly and therefore are suffering from the result of having per user overhead (i.e. no matter how many users they add, they never get ahead because each additional user adds both revenue and cost).
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Post » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:59 am

haven't bought a single month of gold


You know you waaaant tooo. lol :hubbahubba:
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Post » Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:23 pm

Why are people getting so worked up over a dollar? Hell, if you looked hard enough, you could probably find that in spare change by wandering aimlessly around your house.
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Post » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:37 am

Why are people getting so worked up over a dollar? Hell, if you looked hard enough, you could probably find that in spare change by wandering aimlessly around your house.

As stated countless times in this thread, it is not about "just a dollar" but about disagreeable decisions Microsoft has made with XBL.
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