XBox / Mods

Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:13 pm

I read a post saying that you can take your XBox profile and use it on your PC then save it and use it again on your XBox if this is true coul you then save some if the Mods that are out there as well?
I can understand it not working with some mods but I was hoping to be able to at least transfer some if the nice new texture files people have made.

I know nothin about this so if it's a dumb question bare with me please.
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Jonathan Braz
 
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:06 pm

There will never be mods on the consoles.

It.
Will.
Not.
Work.
Ever.
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James Rhead
 
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:53 pm

Modding the xbox version breaks your contract with Microsoft and cannot be discussed
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Laura Richards
 
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:06 pm

There will never be mods on the consoles.

It.
Will.
Not.
Work.
Ever.


you mean like how it wasn't possible to mod the xbox version of morrowind?
ow wait XD

there's no real technical reason why mods won't work on consoles
sure some might increase the technical requirements higher than consoles can handle
but it's not like it's a physical impossibility to run a modified game code on your console

that being said, I don't really see it happening
perhaps there might be a shift in how they handle user generated content on the consoles in the future
but as for this generation of consoles (and probably the next one) it's not going to happen
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DAVId MArtInez
 
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:43 pm

I understand that they would lose money on DLC and what not but I was thinking more along the lines of texture files thinkin a texture file was a texture file no mater the cpu running it or at the very least te Mod that would shut Meeko the F' up

I understand and can handle that PC will have all the coolest stuff but damn I don't know how much longer I can abide that damn dogs barking.

Good point on some of them exceeding the XBox system requirements though, good info thanks.
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Christine
 
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:29 am

There will never be mods on the consoles.


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Becky Cox
 
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:18 am

you mean like how it wasn't possible to mod the xbox version of morrowind?
ow wait XD


It is possible to add mods to consoles.

What is impossible is to add them legally, and thus it's not allowed to discuss it here.
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Rhysa Hughes
 
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:53 am

Right, okay.

Go add FCOM to Oblivion on the 360.

*waits*
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Cat
 
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:05 pm

according to Pete Hines, they have enquired multiple times about bringing mods to consoles but Microsoft and Sony will not permit them due to the fact that all of the mods would need to then be supervised or something. So its all down to the console manufacturers from what I understand. So yeah mods on consoles will not be happening any time soon.
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Agnieszka Bak
 
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:34 pm

It is possible to add mods to consoles.

What is impossible is to add them legally, and thus it's not allowed to discuss it here.


dno about where you live but I can do whatever I damn well please with a piece of electronics I buy
I can take it apart, swap out parts, change whatever I want
heck I could open it up and wear it on my head if I really wanted to XD

I would probably lose warranty though
and I wouldn't abide by the user terms on xbox live so they could restrict me from going on there
but there's no law saying I can't modify a piece of electronics I bought

I also can't do a lot of these things commercially since I don't own any of the rights
but for personal use I can do whatever I want and no1 could touch me in a court of law

they may have a rule on here stating we're not allowed to talk about it
but there's no legal grounds for going after some1 for modifying THEIR console or game
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:20 pm

dno about where you live but I can do whatever I damn well please with a piece of electronics I buy
I can take it apart, swap out parts, change whatever I want
heck I could open it up and wear it on my head if I really wanted to XD

I would probably lose warranty though
and I wouldn't abide by the user terms on xbox live so they could restrict me from going on there
but there's no law saying I can't modify a piece of electronics I bought

I also can't do a lot of these things commercially since I don't own any of the rights
but for personal use I can do whatever I want and no1 could touch me in a court of law

they may have a rule on here stating we're not allowed to talk about it
but there's no legal grounds for going after some1 for modifying THEIR console or game


The Xbox and PS3 EULA's, which you have to legally abide by to do anything, even offline, with the console, state that unauthorised modifications of the software, which adding mods would involve, is illegal. Because the EULA is a contract, you legally have to abide by it pretty much no matter where you live.
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KIng James
 
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:59 pm

The idea of content for free is anathema to both $ony and M$.
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Laura-Lee Gerwing
 
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:39 pm

It's possible to mod a console, but it's awkward to do, after all a console is just another computer.
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remi lasisi
 
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:08 pm

Right, okay.

Go add FCOM to Oblivion on the 360.

*waits*


Done and done.

The games use the same file structure for mods and everything. It just requires some questionable logistics to work.

It could, however, be made to work by design and not through software/hardware magic as it is now. The problem is figuring out how to get the tools necessary to make these mods and methods to distribute them for the consoles. That is a far greater task than making the mods themselves work.

I personally don't see what is "illegal" about it though. Modifying the hardware itself isn't illegal; it just breaks your TOS with the hardware manufacturer and voids your warranty. The only illegal thing about modding is when people mod their stuff to play pirated copies of games; because the piracy of those games and the circumvention of copyprotection is what is illegal. Modifying your Wii so you can watch legitmate DVDs on it, for example, is NOT illegal.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:45 pm

The Xbox and PS3 EULA's, which you have to legally abide by to do anything, even offline, with the console, state that unauthorised modifications of the software, which adding mods would involve, is illegal. Because the EULA is a contract, you legally have to abide by it pretty much no matter where you live.


No.

EULAs and TOSs do not supersede local, state and federal laws. In some countries such documents hold no value at all.

What EULAs and TOSs do is give companies the ability to deny you service, it doesn't make things illegal. If you're reverse engineering things that falls under a different set of laws. If you just muck about on your consoles you've broken no law, but you did break contract which means whoever you broke the contract with no longer has to provide you with support or service.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:42 pm

Many mods work just fine for both the Xbox 360 and the PS3, as they would for PC. Unfortunately, the discussion is not allowed.
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Francesca
 
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:44 am

Another one of these threads... Mods are not coming to consoles and it has been officially confirmed many times already... http://twitter.com/#!/Bethblog/status/142008872972992512
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Mimi BC
 
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:48 pm

No.

EULAs and TOSs do not supersede local, state and federal laws. In some countries such documents hold no value at all.

What EULAs and TOSs do is give companies the ability to deny you service, it doesn't make things illegal. If you're reverse engineering things that falls under a different set of laws. If you just muck about on your consoles you've broken no law, but you did break contract which means whoever you broke the contract with no longer has to provide you with support or service.


This.

If people actually READ their TOS/EULAs instead of just hitting the "I agree" button without even glancing at it, they would understand that they are not legally binding contracts for which you can get in trouble with the law for breaking. They are just agreements you must agree to in order to keep your service and support. Some points inside them, however, will be both. Such as "you shall not make illegal copies of this software." That is both going to break their service agreement with you, AND the law in many places.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:13 pm

Be offline, get modded save games, your gonna need a couple programs to transfer the....................and now i have said too much sry :jammasterjay:
wont be the mods that are for the PC did this with oblivion twas sick
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Benito Martinez
 
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:43 am

There will never be mods on the consoles.

It.
Will.
Not.
Work.
Ever.




It
Has
Been
Done

It is illegal, unfortunately.
I will be surprised of Microsoft doesn’t start to allow it in some way in the next decade. It is however counter intuitive for console gamers. Consoles are care free, mods aren’t.
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:14 am

Is it possible? Yes.

Is it possible without breaking the TOS? No.

:)
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:53 pm

dno about where you live but I can do whatever I damn well please with a piece of electronics I buy
I can take it apart, swap out parts, change whatever I want
heck I could open it up and wear it on my head if I really wanted to XD

I would probably lose warranty though
and I wouldn't abide by the user terms on xbox live so they could restrict me from going on there
but there's no law saying I can't modify a piece of electronics I bought

I also can't do a lot of these things commercially since I don't own any of the rights
but for personal use I can do whatever I want and no1 could touch me in a court of law

they may have a rule on here stating we're not allowed to talk about it
but there's no legal grounds for going after some1 for modifying THEIR console or game



Done and done.


Quotes like those ones makes me realize that people doesn't even bother to read what others write. Or that doesn't even bother to make sense in their replies.

1. Mods like FCOM on the 360/PS3 are specially impossible, not only because the resources it requires, but because of the very installation method, which heavily requires to use 3rd-party software. So I don't know why you said "done and done".

2. There are legal grounds for modifying their console or game. I don't know the details, but if there weren't, it'd be legal to do so, when it's explicitly illegal. If you don't believe me, ask any forum moderator (from any legal game site, not an underground one) if you can post a thread to discuss how to add any kind of mods to the 360/PS3.
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