A couple weeks ago I saw someone post some concept art of an Argonian (I saved it, but I'm on a work computer right now so I can't drag it up), they look pretty good if the concept art is legitimate.

I'm looking at the picture zoomed in, and the bartender's hand i very light, a little too white for a redgaurd, and the sames true for the guy on the far left.

I'm also interested in seeing Bretons vs Imperials. I never managed to figure out the difference in Oblivion until I realized they had different voice-acting... haha

Orcs, argonians will be interesting to see too.
Redguards, not so much. I already have an image of how they will (or might) look like from the concept art.
Bosmer and High Elves would be nice to see too.

I noticed that too, but then I noticed the light fixture right next to him, so I think that's just the way the light is hitting his hand (yay for better lighting effects this time around! :celebration: )

Is it just me or does the sitting dude on the far left looked giant in stature compared to the other folks behind the counter?? That guy can only be an Altmer.

Speaking of races make over, I'd like seeing the Orsimer in Skyrim to look a bit more like their lord http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:DF-Gortwog_Face.png in Daggerfall.

Just to be clear, we are all talking about http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu244/MrTissueBox/Skyrimtavernbartender.jpg?t=1298313314 character correct?

It is clear that he is dark-skinned.

Exactly. Voices were the only thing that helped me tell the two apart, unless the Breton had the buzzcut + headband hair styles, a pretty stand-out hairstyle that made me recognize a Breton.

I'm not quite sure how they could make Bretons look distinguishable from Imperials, so I'm really interested to see if they succeed.

I thought we were talking about the guy that is sitting on the stool. The guy you pointed out does appear to have dark skin.

i think someone should twitter/whatever/tweet pete hines about the guy sitting down on the far left.

Bretons tend to have much paler skin, while Imperials were more tan. According to lore anyway; like you said they were near impossible to tell apart in Oblivion.

They should make bretons look more like this http://elderscrolls.neoseeker.com/w/i/elderscrolls/9/96/Breton_official.jpg

That is almost definitely a Nord. He does not look dark skinned at all to me...

Yes, he is a white dude, and I don't just mean because of his light skin, but his hair and facial features. Pete was talking about the dude we can barley see, I don't care if he is a Redguard, I can't see him anyway.

If someone could photoshop that image to make one thats zoomed in on the guy in the stool to show his hand and ear, i would greatly appreciate it. also, it looks to me he has hi hand around a cup thats resting on the bench hes sitting at.

I think people are happy to learn that we've seen a picture of a Redguard. Though I agree it's nothing to be excited over, it's not like we get a good look at the Redguard in question, and besides, Redguards are just humans, albeit ones with darker skin than the other human races in the setting. I figure that if the Nords look good enough, chances are the other human races, Redguards included, will look alright too, short of pure decisions in art style or just incompetent modeling, there really isn't that much you can do to mess up normal looking humans. I'd be more concerned with races that would look significantly different from the normal humans we've seen so far, like say, Khajiit and Argonians, because there's a lot more room to ruin them, even if the human characters look alright, there's no guarentee the obviously non-human races will look good.

He does and that is cool.

Wait... Wait... WAIT!!!


... there were MEN in that picture?! O.O

The guy on the stool is definitely an elf of some kind. The only part of him we can clearly see is his ear, but that's more than enough to instantly rule out any of the human or beast races. What kind of elf exactly is a lot more difficult to tell.

I still don't see the light skin on the bartender. I see dark skin, curly hair, and a Redguard-like frame (tall and muscular). The only part I see that could make people think of light skin is where the light is reflecting off his hand because of the light fixture right next to him.

He has shoulder length brown hair(not curly), light skin and Caucasian facial features. I don't know what kind of screen you have, but I am looking at him on a 27" monitor(looking like 5" from the screen) using the full screen pic you can see at http://bethblog.com/index.php/2011/02/11/nothing-says-i-love-you-like-a-screenshot/

I think pete hines could not really see becuase he was looking at the picture through a cellphone, thats why he thought he was a redguard.

... I'm fairly certain the only person in that picture is a rather well-proportioned barmaid in a revealing corset.

I could be wrong, but... I'm pretty sure...

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Pete said the character wasn't a Redguard while looking on his iPhone. He now thinks he is a Redguard looking at the screenshot in full size.

You weren't funny with your first post about it, you still aren't. :shakehead:

You mean the obviously black man standing behind the counter, of which there are only two races in TES that are black, and of which he does not have pointed ears?

If I'm right, and the character in question is the guy half-cut off on the screen...

... he's very clearly got a pointed ear.


If we're talking about the man -behind- the counter on the left... I'd say he's probably more likely to be a tanned Nord than a Reguard... just from his general size. Reguard are shorter and stockier as a general rule, than Nords. That guy's got to be pushing six foot one.