http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_(software_development). As in creating another path of development.

I decided that I would hack around with Wrye Mash. So I have a working copy here on https://github.com/Yacoby/Wrye-Mash (Download is the button on the right). It is work in progress. It may totally mess up your your mod install when you run it. Or it may only do so if you run it on the third Monday of a month. Your problem if it does. However:

Report bugs and feature requests here: https://github.com/Yacoby/Wrye-Mash/issues

I also build stand alone versions every now and again. Please don't submit bug reports unless you are using a recent one. They are :
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26677509/WryeMash.2011.05.11.7z
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26677509/WryeMash.2011.05.08.7z
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26677509/WryeMash.2011.05.01.7z
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26677509/WryeMash.2011.04.19.7z


I am slowly trying to remove the comtypes requirement (It has enough as it is if someone doesn't for some reason want to run the stand alone version). Several small improvements:


I can't promise to do anything, or even work on it at all. Just for my fun and satisfaction.

That Fork link was quite and has some interesting information about open source in general. I will test your version of Wrye Mash as soon I can, but I can't promise anything.

Thanks for sharing this and keep up the good work. :thanks:

I am not sure there is enough different to be worth using it yet :shrug: I hope there will be soon though.

Hmm, a new Mash... Maybe this is the right time to ask for -

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

You didn't manage to compile the stand alone exe? It seems the source has bitroted severely since the time it was written.
I don't see the mash.exe file in the archive ( i couldn't compile it either).

I don't think it would be too much of a problem to compile it The majority of the work is done. I will see what I can do some point this week. (I need to boot into windows to compile it)

I present I am trying to cut some of the code out of masher.py. It is doing my head in dealing with 7k lines in a single file.

A new mash would be great - though what I'd really like is one tool to rule them all - one tool to handle MCP, MGE, and MASH - anyway are you adding additonal features or just optimizing code?

Will the new Mash be compatible with the latest release of Python? It's always an annoyance to install both Python 2.5.2 and 2.6 so I can use both Wrye Mash and Blender, respectively.

Out of curiosity, Yacoby, do you know if Wrye Bash is better than Wrye Mash as far as performance or bugs or user-friendliness or capabilities?

The stand alone compile should deal with this.

Must you have Python 2.5.2 installed before you can use Blender or am wrong here?
If that isn't needed I can't see why you must have both of these versions of Python installed at the same time, when you can get http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22368 package (Python 2.6.5) from TES Nexus and Wrye Mash will work with either 2.5.2 or 2.6.5 version.


AFAIK it depends what you're referring to. Also keep that in mind that http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1068986-wrye-mash-thread-5/page__view__findpost__p__15713774 for Wrye Mash was copy and paste from Wrye Bash. And finally Oblivion is more complex than Morrowind, because Oblivion has more scripting abilities than Morrowind. When it comes to graphics MGE is more powerful than OBGE is for Oblivion, because MGE can handle both shaders and distant land while in Oblivion you must use http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15781 to handle the distant land generation of your loadorder.

Just messing around with the code and adding new features if I feel like it

A lot of the things I am doing is for my sanity. For example, it was really difficult to tell what is a global variable and what isn't so now all global variables have the prefix globals.


Mash 84 is compatible with Python 2.7 I think. You just have to install comtypes.


Bash has more capabilities, that is all I know. However as Leonardo2 said, this is because in parts of things like FaceGen.

I don't think you can do that if you either upgrade from python 2.5 or install a full 2.7 version, but I think that's possible to upgrade from let say... python 2.6.5 to 2.7 iirc. I could be wrong about this. so please tell me if am wrong.

I managed to build it. It was a pain to do though. There are some issues with my version that need sorting before it will work though I think (I based icon paths on the the script path, which won't work when compiled). When I have another segment of time I will see if I can get a working binary out there.

I am curious if this will start for people. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26677509/wryemash.7z If someone could give it a quite try it would be appreciated. I just need to see that I have got the right dll file as it was built with a later version of Python (2.7).


(Just extract anywhere and run mash.exe. Started counts as it asking where your Morrowind Directory is. No need to go further than that).

If it does start fine, also check Wrye Mash.log. If it says anything other than something like "Wrye Mash!" then paste it here.

It started fine for me, and was able to list my mods and saves. The log worked too.

Ok. That is great, thanks for giving it a test.

Seems to work flawlessly so far! I overwrote my previous WMSA installation with this, just dragged the files over, seems to work right out of the box.

Oh, and Ctrl-sorting is AWESOME! There's just the little inconvenience of having to set the sorting mode to "last modified" but it's trivial I think, I'm not bothered too much by it.

THANK YOU SO MUCH YACOBY!

Messed around with trying to provide a slight bit of integration with mlox. If it can find mlox you can now do the following:

• Launch Mlox
  
• Use mlox to sort your load order
  
• Revert to the load order before mlox changed it
  
• Cry at the possible increase in load times

:shrug:



There was no good alternative.

What else is there to say?

Here is the current list of changes:



Anything else people really want?

Object merging but I don't think you want to work on this

Yes there is about the read-only attribute which Wrye Mash or WMSA didn't cleared upon a mod uninstallation through BAIN and that's causing a lot of trouble for any Wrye Mash user. I least I've a lot of issues with that sort of thing with several mods not many though in the past.

Not long ago I download the http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=974, but all files in that mod has the read-only attribute active and the reason why the files has that was because the Nexus admins had the mod re-uploaded and forgot to change the attribute. I just download it again and the files attributes wasn't changed, so that mod is guaranteed to causing you trouble in Wrye Mash if you want to remove it through BAIN. When you install/uninstall a mod in BAIN Wrye Mash is creating a temp folder called Installers Temp (I think it was called) and that folder was delete once the operation was finished, but Wrye Mash cannot delete a folder if it has read-only files in that folder and you have an error message in Wrye Mash. I believe that's the biggest problem that really needs to be fixed asap in Wrye Mash. :brokencomputer:

Since you can install mods with BSA files included in BAIN I think it could be convenient for anyone if BSAReg.exe (free to distribute) and perhaps GetMWRoot.exe (perhaps permission is needed) as well was included in WMSA, so that you can launch each program from the utilities tab if you want that.

I wonder if you add the Ctrl mod sorting feature in the Installers tab like you did in the Mods tab similar to that Wrye Bash already has?


Well done Yacoby and thanks for your hard work on WMSA. :foodndrink: :celebration:

Not really. Maybe if/when I finish with the source of mash I try and get the source for something like Smart Merger :shrug:


I'll take a look at it.


Good idea.


That could be added

Quoting fail


Let's ask Era Scarecrow then. He said that SmartMerger is licensed under the GPL. Although the problem with Smartmerger is that it doesn't work with most of my installed mods. Also it doesn't support object merging directly. It's made for complete mod merging.

@Yacoby: Thanks. :biggrin:

@FallenWizard: Indeed. Not fail but wrong twice. :yes: