I'm with you. :celebration:

Well they have made the three games I have spent most time with in addition to Fallout 3 so I guess I do.

dude... they made TES....

Haha, it always cracks me up to see your name and avatar in threads. Especially when you say that part about your family. :rofl:

I agree with you wholeheartedly though (not the family part :biggrin: but the rest, about being more important than friends, each sequel getting better and so on). You're a great fan that makes me smile.

That's a much better way of putting it, though too long for a poll question perhaps.

There used to be a time when I really loved Bethesda's work, and it probably won't surprise any of you that this was when I was playing Morrowind. My appreciation for them dropped immensely when Oblivion came. Not just because I thought the game had very serious faults. Even awesome devs make mistakes and not every game they make can be a gem. What I was disgusted by were their commercial policies, having their customers pay for DLC that should have been in the game in the first place, or would have been provided in a free patch ten years ago.

However, from what I've heard of Skyrim (which isn't much, I am trying not to get over-hyped) they are fixing a lot of things that I thought were wrong with Oblivion, either by doing it the way Morrowind did it or by coming up with completely new awesome ideas. So it looks like I might regain my faith with Skyrim, as long as they don't try to rob me for horse armour (or, gods forbid, spears).

Never cared for Fallout because of the setting, but they never influenced my opinion of Bethesda.

I fully support ZeniMax's quest in world domination!

Normally I appreciate a company's efforts by purchasing the product, and if I appreciate a lot, I buy collector's.

For Bethesda, who's games cost the same but last over 5 years of awesome entertainment, I feel even that is not enough.

Thanks Bethesda! Thanks for over 12 years of marriage-testing entertainment!

Cool it's just your first post sounded a little harsher, i think if you re-read it you'll see what i mean. Of course your entitled to your opinion, please don't get into a freedom of speech rant, it gets really REALLY old man, probably because it is, thousands of years old.

Hey i'm just tired of all the haters in these forums, I think (my opinion) they should just pack up and get on with their lives.

While i can't disprove your theory on the state of Beth if they had released another carbon copy of MW (which wasn't like Daggerfall really, it was about the same jump as MW was to OB), all i can say is have a look at the state of the gaming industry right now, there are a lot of companies going under and personally i don't blame Beth for wanting to secure their future. Actually while i'm on that note you can't really blame anyone for wanting to improve their company and make more money, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. Just my opinion

who? :huh:

You don't even appreciate that they pay the Devs? Who otherwise would be at a different company.

Why can NOTHING in this world have some thing to do with anything but money. soldiers are paid to fight, so noone gives a[censored] when they die?

Of course I do!

I am like that too. I love what Bethesda does. I think they do Awsome work. It's thier busines practices that I don't care for. I understand why they did it, but I don't have to like it. I actually am surprised I loved Fallout 3. That is the only difference there.

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Yeah I see what you mean. It's my learning disablily I have. Not a big one, but a small one. Sometimes I comment with a one read through. If I keep reading, I forget what I wanted to type. Yeah I didn't mean to sound that harsh. I really do love Bethesda. I guess you can say I am greatfull for the hard work they put into thier games. I guess the word "appreciate" means different things for different people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiRxkFWb_3o

Bethesda are my fave game dev's out there.

But let me explain about why I appreciate them. Not because they are making abother TES game but for making all of those great RPG's in the past. I remember spending tons of my time playing Sea Dogs,a swashbuckling adventure on the high seas! Hahahahrrrr!!!

Next up was Morrowind. Do I need to say more!? I was absolutely astonished with the posibilities in the game.

Oblivion!? I bought a new PC just so I can play it maxed out.

Skyrim. I have absoultely no doubt it will be as amazing as all of the tiles above...combined. The direction Bethesda is taking role-playing games is...well the right direction. When you combine their skills in game development and the current technology out there you simpy can't get a bad product for your money.

This made me laugh. :lmao:

Of course I appreciate Bethesda. They only made my favorite series of all time after all. I mean, I bought horse armor. DAY ONE. That just shows how much I want to give Bethesda my money so they can keep doing what they love doing. :wub:

It's like Rooster Teeth productions. They make amazing content that I love, and they don't require me to pay anything to enjoy it. But I am a sponsor on their website because I appreciate what they do and I want to help them out because of that.

Errr what? We are discussing a company here man, not feeding the poor. Most soldiers sign up, might have something to do with it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np6_b-72H3E




Fair bro, it just boggles my mind why haters are here. One of the Devs just posted this article on why they shouldn't post in the forums (http://jeff-vogel.blogspot.com/2011/01/three-reasons-creators-should-never.html) "It makes me think, 'If you hate it so much, why are you there?' But that's just the way it is"

I appreciate Bethesda for making great games that have a great replay value due to their size and most importantly due to the modding tools offered. Bethesda games are the only single player games that I can play for years, every other single player game is fun for a few weeks at most. So yes, I appreciate Bethesda. On the other hand they're just a company that tries to make money. They offer good products, so there is nothing wrong with that.

But I can't say that I feel like they did me a favor personally by making a TES sequel. TES is a brand that generates a hell of a lot of money and that would probably sell millions of copies even without any marketing efforts at all. They make a lot of money with TES and that's the main reason why they make a sequel. Not because they love the fans so much or because they're in love with their Elder Scrolls world. Of course they like the fans and their world, but if TES games wouldn't sell then there wouldn't be any TES games.

What I don't understand is why so many people around here on the Skyrim forum are, well, 'super fans' (the correct term would be auto censored). As soon as you express a valid concern about something they jump at you as if you attacked them personally. That is silly. They even make up stuff to prove everything will be better than great and if nothing helps they just say 'we don't have enough information yet'. That annoys me and it's no fun discussing things that might be worse than in previous TES games.

Bethesda makes great games overall, but they also make games with a lot of flaws, exploits and unbalanced game mechanics. I paid for their games and I will pay for their next game as well. If I have a valid concern then I may want to express it here and I don't want to be annoyed by people who just claim everything will be as perfect as it can be 'because Bethesda knows what they're doing' no matter what the screenshots show or previews say. It seems to be a psychological thing, just like you don't go to the doctor when there is a hard lump in your briast because it's only cancer if the doctor said it's cancer.

Whether Bethesda made the greatest RPG's ever is highly debatable, but they are the ones who elevated the genre and have a great influence on other game makers today.
You used to have RPG's plagued by inferior graphics and horrible gameplay and action-adventure games with some RPG elements.

Daggerfall broke with the tradition of having clear goals and created an environment where you could go and do whatever you want.
It may not be that great a game, but if you bare in mind that it's basically a dungeon-crawler it's an amazing achievement.

Morrowind proved it's possible to combine competitive graphics, action and intuitive gameplay with the intriguing depth and stories of a pure RPG and helped defining modern western RPG's imo.

It's a love-hate relationship, though mostly love.

What sets Bethesda apart from just about all other developers.

1) They don't sell stock in their company.
2) They are their own publisher.
3) Their parent company Zenimax was created by them.

So what you have is a company that doesn't answer to share holders, publishers or a corporate conglomerate making decisions based purely on market anolysis. Sure like an company they are out to turn a tidy profit but they aren't just buy sports cars and yachts with all that money.

MW dev team = 6
OB dev team = 40
FO3 dev team = 60
SR dev team = 100

Do the math. Ok i'll do it for you.

Lets say for the sake of argument that 100 employees avg 100k each a year. After 4 years that's 40million$.
Now lets say licensing fees cost another 10million$
And game print cost 10$ per copy x 5million copies = 50million$
That's a total 100million dollars invested in Skyrim and if all five million copies sell in the first year at 60$ each then that is a gross of 300million and guess what FO3 made that on opening day(because of CEs and SEs)

The trend here is they are making money hand over fist and they are reinvesting it into the companies by hiring more people and acquiring other studios and even venturing into MMOs. At their current rate of growth i fully expect them to be developing FO4 and TES 6 at the same time with two completely separate teams. The more money they make the more games we get and hopefully sooner.

I appreciate Beth for the quality games they produce. I`ve loved them all for their own merits and not just a single one i.e "Morrowind Syndrome".

The TES and Fallout series have given me so many years in replay value that no other game company comes close.

Been a fan since Arena and will be for life :thumbsup:

Only two game developers I really enjoy buying games from are Bungie and Bethesda. I have seen so many others completely disregard their fans and sell crappy products Beth is one of the few who just blows me away every time.

Yes!
And it seems to me that they will actually make some major improvements.
Oblivion barely made any improvements when compared to Morrowind and actually way worse.

This. Bethesda is my favourite company...OB alone did that BTW for those saying that you don't need to thank someone for doing their job...sure it's only their job, but c'mon they do a damn good job so I think they deserve atleast a pat in the back (besides it's Valentine's Day :hugs: )