You are NOT the Dragonborn

Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:45 am

That's Bioware's schtick.


Yes indeed lets stick with the TES way, it works for every game and I play them because I want to be the hero
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:21 am

Yes indeed lets stick with the TES way, it works for every game and I play them because I want to be the hero


Ugh...I'm sick of being the main guy...it's in 99% of every RPG created. Heck, not just in RPGs, but games in generaI. Like a good book, you can make every character feel important, and a hero to boot. This whole saving the world thing alone is making cry.

I hope for something new, I really do. Although Oblivion's ending was...umm...bad, I really enjoyed the fresh approach with the character you play as.

My opinion, though.
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:53 am

I'm fine with there being multiple heroes, just as long as the game isn't a party/squad-based thing, with a Badass Crew you have to assemble and lead.
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:30 am

I'm fine with there being multiple heroes, just as long as the game isn't a party/squad-based thing, with a Badass Crew you have to assemble and lead.


There is good reason why there are so many games like that every1 wants to be the main hero or villain, and I dont like to share the lime light with any1 else in game... thats why I play 1 person rpg not a friggin mmo.
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:59 pm

I'm fine with there being multiple heroes, just as long as the game isn't a party/squad-based thing, with a Badass Crew you have to assemble and lead.

I agree somewhat. If I want to play Mass Effect, I'll play Mass Effect.

But I still think the player will be the Dragonborn
There is no grounds for restricting race so that theory is out
The only thing that could make a difference is how the story pans out, obviously we can't rule that out...

I'd like to think they learned from everyones response to the ending of Oblivion.
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:09 pm

There is good reason why there are so many games like that every1 wants to be the main hero or villain, and I dont like to share the lime light with any1 else in game... thats why I play 1 person rpg not a friggin mmo.

This it's not fun to be the sidekick imo.
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:10 am

After the way they are hyping up Dovakhiin, we had better be Dovakhiin. :stare:
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:51 am

better a part of the groups that defeats the dragons than the single sole superhero. that just gets old after awhile.
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:41 am

Nerevar was a Chimer.Think of Almalexia and half of Vivec. He was around before the little disagreement with Azura happened, before she made the dunmer.I would like to think that, like Nerevar Reborn, you could be the chosen one. Or could learn to be, as the Ashlanders said. It was interesting to not be the sole hero and savior of the world with Martin, but I kinda liked Morrowind's story.What I'm wondering is if you start off in jail again.One of these games, Beth is going to have to let you know what you did to end up there......


I'm more interested in finding out what Jiub did to get rid of the cliffracers.....
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:47 am

You know what I'd like? You to be the hero, and then irrevocably fail at it. Something different. We can fix whatever your character fails at in another game, but this should be a tragedy. That would be the most interesting game ever for me. I have never played a game in which the character definitely fails, besides (kinda)
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Red Dead Redemption.
Even as a kid I kinda hated movies because I always knew the hero saves the world, defeats the villain, and gets the girl. Shake it up. I LOVED "There Will Be Blood" because it was so vague and obviously negative. Anyway, I've said the same thing for far too long. Tragic ending, bye.
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:17 pm

Looks like its time to play sidekick again, oh well.


Shoot, I'm tired if being Tim Drake. Sure he got the limelight with the Isles. I wanna go back to bein Bruce, c'mon.
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:43 am

http://i.imgur.com/SGAic.jpg
Any wild ideas about who these guys are, and if their proximity to Dovahkiin means anything?
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:12 am

http://i.imgur.com/SGAic.jpg
Any wild ideas about who these guys are, and if their proximity to Dovahkiin means anything?

I think Hellmouth came up with a good theory:

Tiber Septim? Nah, Talos had his fun. Time for the 4th Dragonborn to come forth and [censored] slap Alduin in the face!

Also, this is a bit of speculartion on my part, but if you look on the trailer, there are 3 humans kneeling behind the 4th with the shield. If you at it closer, you can see the person on the most left has briasts, while the two humans next to the most left do not. I take this as the 3 emperors of Cyrodiil: Alessia, Reman, and Tiber Septim. I suspect the Dragonborn will eventually become the 4th emperor of Tamriel.

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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:31 am

Well, this thread has gone on much longer than I ever thought it would so maybe you deserve a little bit of my reasoning beyond my original post. Here's a chunk of it for you...

I firmly believe that, based on what I know of the lore, the Dragonborn will not only be the savior of Skyrim and the rest of tamriel, a mortal blessed by the gods and looked up to by all the races of man, but will also reestablish an empire of allegiances.

The Dragonborn will become the new emperor as the dragonborn's have BEEN, an assumption based on tamriels history. You cannot be the emperor. Why? When TES 6,7,8,9,10 and so on come out they will not have a blank spot for who the emperor was after the dragon invasion. It will be a nord or an imperial, this is Skyrim, not morrowind, not black marsh, Skyrim. Since Bethesda will want to allow us to play as anyone of any race when we play and since the lore will require a name and a face to have been emperor you can only assume that the dragonborn will be a character that you either help or in some way acknowledge as the true savior. A savior that will be written about in future lore and most likely will carry a bloodline of emperors into the future games. It will be either a Nord or an Imperial.

I think most of you aren't looking at the big picture when you espouse things like how the nereverine was whatever race in your justifications but also I think it's funny how you think my reasoning came from the stone tablet in the trailer, it doesn't, the only thing the tablet is good for is backing up my claims since it looks like he is at the end of a line of three emperors who began their own successive emperor bloodlines. It also shows this Dovahkiin guy as a male and probably a nord or an imperial which doesn't prove anything at all but it IS what was on the tablet.

The tablet is just secondary evidence and I don't actually think that bethesda will restrict us to two races (even though blah blah blah Redguard blah blah, as I stated originally) but it's very clear from the lore and the symbolism on the tablet that the dragonborn is to be the new emperor and his bloodline will carry the empire into the future and that means it won't be us due to future game lore restraints. So yes, you are NOT the dragonborn, but you will meet him. Call it playing second banana if you want but in my eyes it makes a whole lot more sense. Also, looking at the tablet, it would appear that there is a civil war going on, my guess is that the civil war will be your responsibility while the Dovahkiin will handle the final confrontation with these dragons (with your help I'm sure).

So, in the end, it doesn't matter if the dragonborn COULD be of a different race (as unlikely as that seems) because you won't be him anyway. For the record, he'll be a Nord and HE will probably be a man.

The only real speculation IMO would be as to whether this Dragonborn is related to any of the last emperors. I say no. I think it's a new bloodline because of the image on the tablet showing the three previous bloodline originators with the dovahkiin becoming the fourth.
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:33 am

Who said anything about restoring the empire? The Dovahkiin will be trying to save the world somehow just to make sure there will still be an Elder Scrolls VI. Dragonborn is a divine empowerment, not a one way ticket to imperial rule.
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:03 am

I'm thinking the Dragonborn is either a reincarnation of Alessia, Reman or Tiber, sent by Akatosh to stop his Alduin aspect from destroying the world, or an avatar of Akatosh or maybe Shor himself. I'm interested in the duality between Akatosh/Alduin: are they completely the same entity, or two aspects of one, akin to Sheogorath and Jygglag. It could very well be that the creator-aspect (Akatosh) wants to do everything in his power to keep his Alduin aspect from eating the world, and starting another cycle.

The covenant made on Alessia's deathbed was made real by the Amulet of Kings. In many ways, the Amulet was that covenant. With the amulet destroyed, it opens up the path for the Dragonborn to be of any race, or any gender. So I say you ARE the Dragonborn, and the one who will forge a new covenant with the gods. That doesn't mean your character will become Emperor: he/she just paves the way for a new Era to rise in Tamriel.
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:31 am

Who said anything about restoring the empire? The Dovahkiin will be trying to save the world somehow just to make sure there will still be an Elder Scrolls VI. Dragonborn is a divine empowerment, not a one way ticket to imperial rule.

I said it. I said why I thought that too.

Think about it.... Civil war, a broken empire due to the lack of an emperor and the devastation from said lack of emperor. Said emperor being the last dragonborn. The tablet shows a line of previous emperors with the new dragonborn at the front. Half of the story will be about uniting the people under one empire and the other half will be about getting rid of the dragon threat.

Also, based on the history of tamriel the dragonborn will become the emperor therefore an empire must be reestablished.
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:47 pm

Still think the PC can be it. Being a blessing to someone is also a saying, so whoever the Dragonborn joins would be blessed. Maybe choosing more than just sides of flavour this time? That would be refreshing in a TES game.
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:39 pm

After the way they are hyping up Dovakhiin, we had better be Dovakhiin. :stare:

They announced Dovakhiin.

They haven't released any more information at this point.

The hype is coming from outside Bethesda. All the speculation from the forum people is just that; speculation with no input from Bethesda. If anyone is hyping up Dovakhiin, its the people posting here.
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:54 am

They announced Dovakhiin.

They haven't released any more information at this point.

The hype is coming from outside Bethesda. All the speculation from the forum people is just that; speculation with no input from Bethesda. If anyone is hyping up Dovakhiin, its the people posting here.


Isnt it always us hyping up something? Heh, I think we will be Dovakhin, he doesn't have to be Emperor. Look at Nerevarine, didn't have to be ruler of Vvardenfell, and hdidnt.
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:03 am

Ugh...I'm sick of being the main guy...it's in 99% of every RPG created. Heck, not just in RPGs, but games in generaI. Like a good book, you can make every character feel important, and a hero to boot. This whole saving the world thing alone is making cry.

I hope for something new, I really do. Although Oblivion's ending was...umm...bad, I really enjoyed the fresh approach with the character you play as.

My opinion, though.


I am not so much being sick of being the main guy but more sick of saving the world and being the Hero, I would much rather see a deeper story based around a character doing what they do for more personal reasons much like Planescape Torment. However if this story is to be about saving the world then I would much rather be the hero than the hero's errand boy.
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:34 pm

Shoot, I'm tired if being Tim Drake. Sure he got the limelight with the Isles. I wanna go back to bein Bruce, c'mon.

Didn't Bruce die recently?
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:53 am

I'd actually like to have a main quest where we become the anti-hero.
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:13 am

Heh, I think we will be Dovakhin, he doesn't have to be Emperor.


Perhaps, but it would give Bethesda a reason to put our character behind bars this time. With the Septims gone somebody has to rule Cyrodil, perhaps those who took the reins see the Dovakiin as a threat to their power?
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Post » Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:20 am

Isnt it always us hyping up something? Heh, I think we will be Dovakhin, he doesn't have to be Emperor. Look at Nerevarine, didn't have to be ruler of Vvardenfell, and hdidnt.

You can't simply compare the Nerevarine to the Dragonborn. They have completely different history. People here who say that it's likely the Dragonborn should rebuild an Empire and become the new Emperor have a point because that has happened before with people who were called Dragonborn.

What I'd like to see is that the Nords know of a prophecy that speaks of the Dragonborn, but nobody knows who he is - similar to the story of King Wulfharth and Tiber Septim (who was then called Hjald, I believe). Wulfharth thought "of course I'm the chosen one, who else could it be?!", and then it turned out the chosen one was some very young guy from High Rock.
The various leaders in the civil war could all believe (or make others believe) they're the Dragonborn, for example. That could be interesting. But I don't know. There are just three things I'm concerned about:
1) I don't wanna be a lame sidekick with no own initiative like in Oblivion.
2) I don't wanna be pushed into being some awesome supermighty dragon-fighting warrior - heck, I wanna play thieves and mad wizards.
3) And I definitely don't want to be the Emperor or a God at the end of the story. Seriously, the reward of Shivering Isles was already too much for my taste, I don't want that to repeat (although in general I would like something like Shivering Isles very much). Most of all, I don't want history in later Elder Scrolls games that sounds awkward because a certain name is always left blank and the character's race and gender are never specified. That would svck.
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