This is more of a what if, but you never know, since Bethesda is so secrative. Anything is possible, though highly unlikely. This is not about limitations or if a console can do it or not. Other games have abilites for the user to tweak, or rearange of some sorts to play the game. If you don't want to call it a Contstruction Set let's call it an Editor then.

I was reading a thread wich was asking for the Construction Set for the consoles. We all know it's not going to happen. So not to derail his thread, I made a new one and making a poll, asking if people who play on the console if they would pay extra, and/or buy it seperately.

So would you buy it seperately even though you couldn't share it with others. How much would you pay for it?

I am willing to pay for it seperately if it would let get out of issues like the PC players and let me have some god mode fun. Also if I can create limited mods, like make a house here or place something there, or revive a character or NPC, it would be nice to have. I would say pay for it, since it would take Bethesda extra time and resources to do.

I don't think I would pay more than $30 for it, that is almost half the game if not more depending where you live.

So If it was possible, and If Bethesda did it for a fee, would you buy it?

Why the hell would you give Bethesda ideas? I mean, if everyone's gotta tell they'd pay for it, I hope they won't see the poll results.

If you want mods get a PC.

No worries, you can't derail a thread that's been closed and redirected to http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1149342-construction-set-on-consoles/

The problem is this: the Construction Set can't do a thing without art files. So, to make the CS usable you'll have to also purchase the game's assets. The only part of the game you won't be buying is the .ESM, possibly a 300MB file. It seems to me that you might as well buy the game.

When GOTY comes out, of course, I'll buy the PC version so I can use mods.

I play most games on Console but, i prefer RPG games for Computer as you can mod and things like that are free...usually.

It's been closed? Man I have never seen a forum move so fast before. I didn't know that. :laugh:

:facepalm: I was so carefull not to make any spelling mistakes. Oh well better luck next time. :banghead:

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The construction set wouldn't even work on consoles, so I wont even vote.

That is why I said, lets call it an editor if it can't be as powerfull as the CS. :teehee:

Like Forcge in Halo Reach? And possibly just using the character creation set up to make your own npcs. That could work really well.

Not gonna happen since the majority of modding needs third party support anyway ---- you can't really do much modding with just a CS you also need image editors to redo\create new textures (you cant just use a texture from another item on a different item without modifying the layout based on the UVmapping) --- 3d modeling programs to create\modify objects (and\or adjust the UVmapping) and animations -- etc. etc. so to have just a CS without being able to add new items or change textures would be pretty useless anyway !!

No, I want to play the game the way that Bethesda throws at me.

Remember boys and girls, it doesn't have to be a CS per sey, but an editor like Melook mentioned.

Except that, in the example of Forge, it's over a very small area with a highly limited number of items.

An editor on any real scale for an open world RPG simply isn't happening on a console.

I would love a construction set on my xbox. The amount of NPC's in Oblivion that I would make essential would make Dagon's armies useless! I would pay good money for it as well! :foodndrink:

Well to get a CS for console, Bethesda would have to code an entirely new program so that you would be able actually be able to edit within the console and even then they would have to make one edit Ps3 and xbox 360. The reason that Bethesda can edit the game on three different platforms simultaneously so easily is because they have publishing software that renders the changes for each system.

Bingo.

The editors people constantly bring up as already existing in console games allow for fairly relatively and closed-off multiplayer maps only and don't allow for even remotely complex scripting on any level. That doesn't really work for a game like this - in a game like Skyrim, that would leave you with a glorified terrain editor that might be able to drop a few enemies and items scattered around the regions you create. The whole Radiant Story concept could make it more viable since you wouldn't actually have any need to populate areas with content (Radiant Story can generate it for you to a certain degree), but even that would take a pretty excessive amount of effort for them to implement.

Long story short: bringing a construction set to the consoles would take a pretty large amount of design work and, even in a best-case scenario, wouldn't result in something complex enough to justify charging for it. The best console players could really hope for is that they do something like Epic did with Unreal Tournament 3 and allow modders to export their mods for the PS3, but given that the 360 appears to be their lead platform (and Microsoft won't allow features like that) even that seems pretty well impossible.

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This isn't really true. Morrowind for the original Xbox actually still had hooks in it for mods to be applied, and if you could get the mods onto the console you could use them with the game. Oblivion on the consoles didn't support mods, but this is less because mods couldn't be supported on it and more because those hooks Morrowind had were removed from the game entirely. The scripting language that the game uses for its actual content and the formats of the assets it uses for visual/audio/animation content are all the same across the various platforms, so they wouldn't need a fully separate set of tools to create mods for each version of the game.

I think you guys are dreaming way too much, it doesn't work if it is not the full construction set. There is much more depth than a simple create an NPC or create a new map...

I woud like to pay for a CS? Pay how much is required for a PC.

LITTLE BIG SCROLLS!

It's not really up to Bethesda though (talk to Microsoft and Sony)

Not only that but there's also the hardware situation that won't really allow for the CS on the consoles anyway

So no I would not pay anything for something that's simply not going to work

It's not possible since it's illegal.

The hardware situation isn't really going to stop it. They can run the game itself, and almost certainly at a level of graphics above the bare minimum, so there's no question that they could run a CS for the game. The only real obstacle outside of software and the console makers themselves is the need for a keyboard and mouse, but (at least on the PS3) that's extremely easy to get around.

And (again, on the PS3, since Microsoft wouldn't allow anything especially extensive on the 360) it really is up to Bethesda. It's just not nearly good enough of a business decision for them to bother.


Wait, what? No it's not.

Don't give gamesas any ideas.

If I didn't have my pc, sure I'd pay for it on console. It will never happen, due to microsoft and sony limitations though.