Yeah I agree, best to leave it at that. I've said my piece.

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And no, I do not believe in ghosts.

Sure, why not. I doubt that everyone I know personally that has shared experiences was lying, mistaken, hallucinating, or just plain stupid. I've had a couple minor experiences myself, and I hope I don't fall into the group that I just described.

Not ghosts, but something else that would sway into religion. And yeah I have noticed that anytime someone talks about their own personal beliefs and it isn't supported by science most of the people on this forum get very hostile like someone else said.

Anyway, in Fort Pickens FL supposedly the ghost of Geronimo is there. My friend claims he saw him, I think I might'a heard something weird but no actual sighting.

I often wonder why. People tend to be so reasonable here.

Welcome to the Internet. :shrug:

As a scientist, I do believe there is a spiritual world of some sort that is not testable by scientific methods. So, for such personal beliefs, I say to each their own.
From a functional perspective, many people do find comfort with such beliefs.

It certainly is fun to think about the supernatural, especially with Halloween approaching.

don't believe in them myself, but my ex girlfriend does. i went with her and her mom to an old (haunted) church once...for some odd reason they both enjoyed scaring the bejeezus out of themselves. myself? I went mostly because I just like those old historic buildings and architecture. and old cemeteries too. I just think it is too cool.

Nope, hardcoe skeptic and as many have already said that it defies logic and as a fan of materialism and physicalism goes against many of my core beliefs. Theres also the whole no concrete evidence despite though out humanitys existence of "ghost" sightings there remains no interview with a ghost that I'm still waiting for.

Sure there are interviews. Just you can't really back them up with evidence unless you do one yourself. And then you're the only person who can actually corroborate the truth or lack of truth to your interview.

LOL Ghosts? No

I believe in logic. :shocking:

I can understand how it can make some people feel better. But then I think of the quote from House (season 2 I believe).

"You know, I get it if people are just looking for a way to fill the holes. But they want the holes. They wanna live in the holes. And they go nuts when someone else pours dirt in their holes. CLIMB OUT OF YOUR HOLES, PEOPLE!"

In a sense, yes.

For those asking foe proof positive, I personally have none. You have the same acres to the same info as I do, if you really want proof then you can find it yourself very easily. Everything else I won't comment on right now cause I'm on my phone at school. Hopefully I'll have time later

I think everything around us is just energy, and theyre many things that cant be explained by our technology. So, sure why not.

This always gets on my [censored] in a big way; when people describe energy as something magical to which you can arbitrarily ascribe any properties you want.



If we can't explain it, how come you think we can explain it as being ghosts?

Hostile? I've got no problem with anyone's beliefs, you can believe what you want and you're entitled to whatever opinion you wish. That does go both ways however, and I am entitled to believe your opinion is a load of crap if I want to. That may seem hostile, but it's not. I just prefer being direct instead of sugarcoating what I'm trying to say.

This was not actually directed towards you personally by the way, it's a general statement that happened to fit with what you posted.


Exactly, you hit the nail on the head right there, people are scared of dying. Or rather, of there being nothing afterwards. So they need comfort instead of coming to terms with it.

Here's some food for thought though. How fun do you think it is to be a ghost, hypothetically? Being forced to relive a part of your life over and over and over again. That sounds like torture, and that's certainly not something I'd want, would you? I don't think so. If ghosts did exists, I'd feel sorry for them, because that has to be the most miserable existance I can imagine.

Yes and No. Right now? No. Alone in the basemant? Yeah.

Something occured to me, and it fits well here, and it would have in all the other ghost related threads we've had.

Why is it that everyone has to take this so seriously? If I say you're an idiot for believing in ghosts, why do you care? Why does the opinion of some stranger online matter to you? If someone calls me an idiot, I'll respond with an argument to back up my point, but I'm not going to go to great lengths just to prove I'm not an idiot, why should I? Everyone here can think whatever they want of me, I've stated more than one unpopular opinion here, and I'll keep doing it. If you don't like my opinion, then that's really not my problem, and it really shouldn't be yours either.

Indeed. The only other topic i've seen that polarises this community so is Steam

I've become a member of the first group it seems, but since i really have no cow in this particular ditch, i'll just join the munchers

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Well, there's your mistake. The human mind is extremely fallible, and yet we always wander around claiming the opposite. That's one of the things that gets us into the most trouble.

I've not seen one and until I do, I am a non-believer in ghosts.

You really need to stop trying to brow beat your opinion on to others. All Im saying is if you really want proof, goggle it. Even if I presented you with proof you would call it fake, so no I don't plan on supplying any anytime soon. If I posted a picture you would say it was double exposed or it was tampered with, even if you had no proof to support your claim, so why should I bother, Im not gonna change anyones mind and neither are you. The difference is Im not trying to force my opinion down your throat like you are to others.

Its a debate topic. A debate topic only works when you have two sides presenting arguments. You can't just turn up and state your opinion, then when asked for evidence say you won't give any because it will just be refuted.
In fact thats the exact opposite of the point, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM.