So...you can use one handed sword as two handed sword...

Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:41 pm

no, just no. people ask that things feel more realistic like when we jump we don't fall slowly and that bows shouldn't take 10 shots to kill someone, but then you want to weild a 2 handed weapon with 1 hand *sigh*.
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:37 pm

If you want to wield Mahoosive swords in a game like a Bleach character on steriods wait for a mod or buy a JRPG.
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:09 am

I wouldn't be against implementing a system similar to Demon Souls (and a few other games) where you can indeed wield twohanders in just one hand. If you guys think about it, IRL there's really no such thing as a twohanded sword type, it's just a label that we put on blades that aren't typically used in one hand. But the Claymore was actually often just swung in one hand, some people even wore a shield while flailing the giant sword at the enemy.

On the other hand, there's little to no realism whatsoever in dualwielding the big mamas though. So I don't think Bethesda should prioritize it. In Demon Souls afaik (I haven't played it but I've been told), you can basically wield any weapon in just one hand if you want, but if the weapon is heavy then the attack becomes slower. Also, there could be Strength requirements attached to it, as well. Wielding dual twohanders would simply be an extension of that logic and I can't say I'm against anything as long as it doesn't diminish my own playstyle in any way.

But dualwielding twohanded swords... meh, close but no cigar. And I do like my cigars.
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:23 pm

Does this mean,perhaps, if you have like high blade skill or Strength you can use two handed sword as one handed sword :hubbahubba: .That would be awesome.


I'm highly skeptical of this idea. It sounds just plain artificial, a gimmick. Even considering that in some martial arts styles, one hand is sometimes used to support/reinforce the opposite hand performing the strike, or the sword delivering the blow, i don't think that's what Bethesda is suppodesly having in mind.
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:10 am

There are swords like bastard swords/ hand-and-a-half swords which are designed to be able to be used 2-handed or 1-handed. These make much more logical sense than "I am like hulk! Dual-wield Zweihanders!"

Yes a bastard sword can be used both ways, mount and blade have them, you switch to two hands simply by unequipping the shield. you do far less damage with one hand but it's very nice to use from horseback because of the reach.
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:16 am

I wouldn't be against implementing a system similar to Demon Souls (and a few other games) where you can indeed wield twohanders in just one hand. If you guys think about it, IRL there's really no such thing as a twohanded sword type, it's just a label that we put on blades that aren't typically used in one hand. But the Claymore was actually often just swung in one hand, some people even wore a shield while flailing the giant sword at the enemy.

On the other hand, there's little to no realism whatsoever in dualwielding the big mamas though. So I don't think Bethesda should prioritize it.

In Demon Souls afaik (I haven't played it but I've been told), you can basically wield any weapon in just one hand if you want, but if the weapon is heavy then the attack becomes slower. Also, there could be Strength requirements attached to it, as well. Wielding dual twohanders would simply be an extension of that logic.


I really hope your not serious on your statement....
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:52 am

not agree at all why would u encumber your self with a slow 2 handed sword in each hand? ur goin to be fightin big fast movin fire breathing dragons
i dont care how big ur character is, the dragon is bigger ur goin to wat to attack quicky not take an hour to swing 2 big claymores...
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:27 am

Those of us that are 7" 6in barbarians with hands like shovels, and those puny single handed swords are like daggers to us, thats who.

Remember body customisation is in there so we could be oversized hunks of meat if we want.

For me elderscrolls games are not about using the weapon with the most damage, or the armor with the best defence. its about looks and what my character would use/wear in that situation. so if I am playing a ox with no brains, bigger is better however he uses it, and it would look soooooo cool


I think you mean 7'6" as something smaller than Frodo would have a hard time lifting a pebble, let alone a two handed sword. If I may add Conan needed to use two hands... and he was a huge mutha
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:47 pm

I really hope your not serious on your statement...

Which one? I stated multiple things. Have in mind that in combat it's all about inertia/momentum, gravity and sentrifugal force.
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:44 pm

No, it wouldn't be 'Awsome'.

It'd be stupid.


This. "Two-handed" should be a minimum requirement, not a vague suggestion.
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:04 am

1. I don't like the idea of wielding a claymore with one hand.

2. You can wield a one handed sword with both hands? That's awesome. That's... Wow... Um... I just got a woody.


Yeah.Thats what they say in Finnish GameReactor.

"For example,it is possible to use one handed weapon as a two handed weapon to do more damage."
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:59 pm

Shinovakhiin, above.


Just try it and you will understand why its an uterly stupid idea.
well hell take a brom start swinging it at double weight, try swing it....
Now cut another broom and add it to the lenght of the first broom, swing it, now put the second half of the broom on the first and try to swing it.

Anyway if you had a just swung a broom and had a notion of physics you wouldn t be asking why your suggestion ain t smart.


God, I dont give a s**t.This is a game.Fantasy game.F the physics.
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:02 pm

I agree with the people saying no. Using a strength requirement wouldn't matter since for one, there might not be attributes, and two there is no level cap, everyone would be able to do this eventually. Even with a perk. (It seems like one of those perks you would get with just about every character).
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:35 am

Hey, there's realism, believability, and then there's [censored] it all. Strive for believability, for [censored] it all is lazy, and realism can become too much of a chore.

Dual wielding weapons meant for using two hands falls under [censored] it all.
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:09 am

Oh come on how can those weak fragile skeletons then carry them?
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:31 am

You know there is a thing called gameplay mechanics. It's why the world is smaller than it really is, why time goes faster, and why jump animations look weird. Plus, it's more iconic for the undead to drag around big weapons than carry them around like a normal person. Plus, they never chop with one hand, they swing upwards and catch it with the other, strike again using 2h, and when they do chop down, it is with 2hands.

I could also just say Morrowind.

Hell, the only creature that makes sense with the using a 2h in 1h is the xivili and minotaurs, both who are much taller and stronger than the player.
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:28 am

"Two-handed" should be a minimum requirement, not a vague suggestion.


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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:32 pm

Wooooooo............ someone got out'a bed the wrongside this morning lol

I think that the ability to wield a 2 handed sword with one hand in certain situations would be great, obviously there would need to be some downside, like lower damage or less recovery speed after a swing.

And vice versa, if you use a one handed sword with two hands, you would have more damage that a normal one handed swing, but less than using a two handed sword.

This sounds great.

I just like the fact that I could have a left handed swordsman if thats what I want...............its all about choice with me.

I'd have no problem with a 2handed sword being used in one hand, as that is possible, but a 1handed sword in two hands? no. For a few reasons
1. A 1 handed sword is made just for that, one hand, so therefore it has a rather short hilt, fit for one hand.
2. With the short handle and blade, it would be VERY awkward to swing and use.
3. ok, well there is no 3, but you get my point.
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:50 am

Using one-handed swords with two hands is an awesome idea. Demon Souls did it, and it worked well, IMO.

Using two-handed swords in one hand is just silly, unless it's the few two-handed swords that can be used in one hand (hand-and-halfs and bastard swords, which, IRL are considered longswords).
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:30 pm

I'd have no problem with a 2handed sword being used in one hand, as that is possible, but a 1handed sword in two hands? no. For a few reasons
1. A 1 handed sword is made just for that, one hand, so therefore it has a rather short hilt, fit for one hand.
2. With the short handle and blade, it would be VERY awkward to swing and use.
3. ok, well there is no 3, but you get my point.


Well it wasnt my idea,its clearly said in Finnish GameReactor.Check my older posts.
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:01 pm

I'd have no problem with a 2handed sword being used in one hand, as that is possible, but a 1handed sword in two hands? no. For a few reasons
1. A 1 handed sword is made just for that, one hand, so therefore it has a rather short hilt, fit for one hand.
2. With the short handle and blade, it would be VERY awkward to swing and use.
3. ok, well there is no 3, but you get my point.

I disagree, some 1 handed longsword have a handle long enough to cram 2 hands on.
It allows more control over the blade, and more damage for the blade.

Just because you wouldn't use it (how you switch between the 2 states is a good question) doesn't mean everyone wouldn't.
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:10 am

Am I blind or is everyone completely misinterpreting the first post?

Looks more like, hey if you want to use that long sword with both hands go ahead.
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:59 am

Am I blind or is everyone completely misinterpreting the first post?

Looks more like, hey if you want to use that long sword with both hands go ahead.

No thats the title, the first post says using a claymore in 1 hand.
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Jenna Fields
 
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:45 pm

... and what about carrying another two handed weapon in the mouth?

HEY, it's fantasy!!!

(Sarcastic mode off)
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Post » Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:14 pm

I'm confused. The 'quote' and the conclusion of the first post seems to say the exact opposite of each other.

I'm okay with letting go off the claymore with the left hand for a second to cast a spell with that hand, but being able to swing claymores with one hand is just silly.

Using one handed weapons with 2 hands? Meh.
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