If you could make one major change to Skyrim's development.. : V - Skyrim

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:44 am

Cloth and hair physics.

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:29 am

Well, if I could DO one thing, it'd be to 100% prevent six in Skyrim.

If I could CHANGE one thing, it'd be their choice not to release info to the public.

Leaking stuff is a really delicate art, if you don't let enough out, you lose interest from the gamers, but if you let too much out, then everyone knows how to find M'Aiq two months before the game is even released. You have to release just enough to drag the fanbase along or you lose interest.

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:26 am

Since we're all pipe dreaming here. I'd release all completed but unused assets (meshes, textures, animations, world spaces, scripts, sounds, etc...) with the PC version.

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:00 am

More PC design features such as::

1. True DX11 effects (confirmed out)
2. PC Textures as good as MOD ones, not the crap given in Oblivion and FO3. (possible, but unlikely given the track record)
3. Pure PC UI. Draggable and rezable panels, multiple info panels open at once, bind any weapon, UI panel, or ability to any key. Basically like Morrowind. (We all know this isn't going to happen.)

Or...

Design the game for a modern PC, then port it/scale it down for the consoles.

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:35 am

Or...

Design the game for a modern PC, then port it/scale it down for the consoles.

That's not really being fair to console gamers though.

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:13 am

make it take place in the black marsh with a different story to reflect the argonian culture and myths

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:59 am

Add another 100 members to the team for a summer release.

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:56 am

That's not really being fair to console gamers though.

Why? They'd get the exact same game they are getting anyway, but PC gamers would get an actual PC game.

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:29 am

Make a REAL difficulty slider . . . that actually makes the game play more or less challenging.
AND make the Normal (default) difficulty equal to challenging game play, not Very Easy game play.

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:01 am

That's not really being fair to console gamers though.

And the way they are doing is fair to PC gamers?

At least this way everyone would get a game that makes good use of their systems.

» Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:35 pm

SPEARS

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» Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:16 am

Fully interactive and dynamic combat (ala Mirror's Edge and Dark Messiah).

Skyrim is one small step for a man (from Oblivion). TES VI could be one giant leap for mankind!

I also support a true PC port as stated above!

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:07 am

I'd merge Bethesda with ID Software and put the latter team from that in charge of turning the game into a corridor shooter with the art-style of Skyrim.

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:12 pm

make it take place in the black marsh with a different story to reflect the argonian culture and myths

I want this for the next game actually.(Yes, I actually have picked which provence I want for it to be, either Elsweyr or Black Marsh, or both.... I threw darts at a hand drawn map of Tamerial)

And the way they are doing is fair to PC gamers?

At least this way everyone would get a game that makes good use of their systems.

I'm buying a computer that is going to cost at least $900 for Skyrim (look at my sig), but I still think that computers don't get to magically take priority over consoles. The game should take a flat line in quality, it isn't being really fair to the console gamers when you make a PC version that has a ton of shabang to it and then you make some watered down console ports that can comply with the hardware requisites that the consoles have.

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:35 pm

I want this for the next game actually.(Yes, I actually have picked which provence I want for it to be, either Elsweyr or Black Marsh, or both.... I threw darts at a hand drawn map of Tamerial)

I'm buying a computer that is going to cost at least $900 for Skyrim (look at my sig), but I still think that computers don't get to magically take priority over consoles. The game should take a flat line in quality, it isn't being really fair to the console gamers when you make a PC version that has a ton of shabang to it and then you make some watered down console ports that can comply with the hardware requisites that the consoles have.

So basically you are saying it is fine to ignore the PC gamers so that the console players don't have to feel bad about themselves for playing the game on ancient hardware? I suppose that makes sense......in bizzaro world.

Which is apparently where we all live since that is in fact what is happening. How do I get off this ride? :twirl:

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:59 am

So basically you are saying it is fine to ignore the PC gamers so that the console players don't have to feel bad about themselves for playing the game on ancient hardware? I suppose that makes sense......in bizzaro world.

Which is apparently where we all live since that is in fact what is happening. How do I get off this ride? :twirl:

why do all pc gamers except Frozenaffairs tick me off oh right because of elitist posts like this^ not everyone has the money for a 900 dollar pc so they can play a game

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:29 am

I'm buying a computer that is going to cost at least $900 for Skyrim (look at my sig), but I still think that computers don't get to magically take priority over consoles. The game should take a flat line in quality, it isn't being really fair to the console gamers when you make a PC version that has a ton of shabang to it and then you make some watered down console ports that can comply with the hardware requisites that the consoles have.

Once upon a time computer games were scalable. Games were designed for high end rigs, then scaled back for rigs that were a few years old. In that way, everyone got a game that they could play. All I suggested is that that be continued. Design for a current rig, then scale it back to the consoles. Then everyone in between has a game that they can play and enjoy.

» Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:07 pm

why do all pc gamers except Frozenaffairs tick me off oh right because of elitist posts like this^ not everyone has the money for a 900 dollar pc so they can play a game

/shrug Agreed, you should use that money to buy a sense of humor first.

The point still stands though, console gamers don't loose out either way. If they build a console game and (poorly) port it up to PC you still get the same game. If they build a good PC game and port it down to consoles, you still get the same game, but PC gamers get a better PC game. Is it the fact you just don't want PC gamers to get a good game?

In the end, doesn't matter one lick either way for Skyrim, already a done deal.

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:59 am

/shrug Agreed, you should use that money to buy a sense of humor first.

The point still stands though, console gamers don't loose out either way. If they build a console game and (poorly) port it up to PC you still get the same game. If they build a good PC game and port it down to consoles, you still get the same game, but PC gamers get a better PC game. Is it the fact you just don't want PC gamers to get a good game?

In the end, doesn't matter one lick either way for Skyrim, already a done deal.

Maybe because console games bring in more money for publishers than PC games do. Why put extra effort into pleasing a small minority of your target audience? What is a easy way to keep them happy with little effort? Construction Kit. D.I.Y.

Think of the extra effort and time it takes to actually create great looking assets too. A game today eats up more resources and development time than it has done in the past. This is why we are not seeing a massive leap in quality we have seen previously.

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:06 am

That's not really being fair to console gamers though.

Why not? It end up looking/running the same for console either way you do it.....its just that the PC version gets to scale higher.

» Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:54 pm

Release it only on consoles.

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:46 pm

Release it only on consoles.

You know, I find this post very sad.

My suggestion was a very inclusive one. It in no way took anything away from the consoles. In fact it would have resulted in an overall better gaming experience for everyone.

And your suggestion is to exclude an entire segment of the gaming community.

And people call us elitist...

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:46 am

design the graphics and physics around top of the line PC equipment including DX11 features and then scale down for consoles.

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:17 pm

You know, I find this post very sad.

My suggestion was a very inclusive one. It in no way took anything away from the consoles. In fact it would have resulted in an overall better gaming experience for everyone.

And your suggestion is to exclude an entire segment of the gaming community.

And people call us elitist...

I will not be satisfied until everyone apart from me is excluded.

» Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:04 am

/shrug Agreed, you should use that money to buy a sense of humor first.

The point still stands though, console gamers don't loose out either way. If they build a console game and (poorly) port it up to PC you still get the same game. If they build a good PC game and port it down to consoles, you still get the same game, but PC gamers get a better PC game. Is it the fact you just don't want PC gamers to get a good game?

In the end, doesn't matter one lick either way for Skyrim, already a done deal.

yes but then console players will likely be put into a similar predicament that previously pc players had to deal with except replace game crashing with freezing