If you don't like the way Skyrim is, look into mods, downloading already done mods, modding yourself, and when the construction kit comes out, use it. After all the game was developed to be modded. Also, make posts on the forum, describing the problems and possible fixes, and if enough of us complain about something--in the next game the devs will fix it. With Bethesda's Fallout they made the game end after the finish of the main quest, fans complained and lo and behold, Todd Howard said they wouldn't do that again and fixed it in Skyrim.

Simple: I am stuck at work, which is not busy at the moment. I have limited websites to connect to due to IS restrictions, but I can connect to the forum. Since I DON'T have anything better to do (staring at the wall being the only alternative), I come on here and complain. Answer that one for you, Einstein?

Another one of these ridiculous threads rears its ugly head again.

Before I address your point let me open up by saying good luck getting a refund on the PC edition of Skyrim!

The majority of us aren't complaining that the game is terrible as a whole (a few may be of that opinion but lets put them to one side for now). What we're doing is offering constructive critisicism because we care about the franchise. We've acknowledged the areas in which the game succeeds, doubly so by spending 60+ hours on it, but also acknowledge the areas in which the game needs work. This is actually usefull to Bethesda as we function as a free extension of their testing and QA department, and point out bugs and issues that a team of employees would be hard pressed to find in a game this size. The game is not perfect, it has a myriad of bugs, and the majority of people who are complaining do so because they want to experience the content as it was intended to be experienced as opposed to broken questlines, purple dragons and crash to desktops.

It is largely because of such a dedicated fanbase that the Elder Scrolls series continues to shine, a fanbase that isn't afraid to voice and act on their opinions. Rather than complacently acknowledging the bugs and imperfections we seek to form a solution, either through voicing our opinions to Bethesda or modding and fixing the game amongst ourselves, freely sharing our hard work amongst other members of the community.

As for the people writing Skyrim off as a total disaster, there is nothing anyone can do for them. They've gone one better on you and given up completely. This does NOT constitute constructive criticism, and the subsequent "lol skyrim is bad I use it as a drinks coaster" threads offer nothing more than a distraction for an idle moderator with too much time on their hands.

TL;DR Sure, people could follow your overall train of thought through to its inevitable conclusion - stagnating, growing gills and crawling backwards into the ocean. Or, they could grow a pair and realise that only through aspiring to, working towards and ultimately recieving a better quality of service that gaming will continue to grow in the right direction.

You do you realize that that is exactly what you are doing right now, right?[censored]ing about something you don't like instead of doing something constructive.

I hear you about the old school - new school thing. For my part I loved the original Starcraft, but think SC2 is bloated, pretentious, and way overrated. Still in all, you won't find me going to the Blizzard forums to complain about SC2. I'd much rather go to forums of games I like to swap experiences with other fans. Also, there is a big difference between constructive criticism and those who criticize because they fancy themselves a rebel. I've seen plenty of the latter here.

I have a love hate relationship with Skyrim right now. The quest are damn fun and I enjoy the storyline. I get svcked into the story and want to continue the story. But some of the mechanics and the UI and the customization somtimes rub me the wrong way and make me remember what I don't like about this game. I love and hate this game at the same time. Everything story wise and RP wise is good enough for me. Everything mechanic and customization wise bothers and rubs me the wrong way.

I go onto the forums to find opinions and like minded people. I think the issue is some people don't know what a complaint is and making a statement. I tend to just state my opinion and like making a statement. I'm not complaining, but a lot of people interpret it that way. Your perception is your reality.

Well, have you bought MW3?

I have bought skyrim, and got something much different then what i expected, as in i can't really play it, since quests keeps bugging. But sure, give me my 49,99Euro back, and i won't complain bout it anymore.

Have you ever thought that maybe people complain about Skyrim because they like the series, but don't like what it's become, so they'd rather voice their complaints to see if the complaints are actually heard for TES VI?
Being blindly loyal to the series and giving it a pass on it's bad parts just because it has some good parts isn't gonna help it fix some of the lackluster details of this game, voicing criticisms? They might be heard.

I very rarely "hate" a game. 90% of the time I can find something about any game that I enjoy. Are they EVER perfect? No. Have I been disappointed? Yes. But most of the time, once I've acclimated myself within the mechanics of the game I can overlook it's faults as long as I'm having a good time. I haven't yet encountered any hiccups in Skyrim that have halted my enjoyment. And I certainly haven't encountered anything "game-breaking" or that I felt needed a dedicated rant thread about it. But then again, I tend to focus more on what I love about the game than what I don't. And there is certainly more for me to love.

ROFL!!

Find something better to do please OP!! lmao

They are trying to make TES up to date with the current generation because behind all the artistic merit and beauty and fun of Skyrim, it was just made for money. If they just made Morrowind all over again, all the 12 year olds would complain and say it's not action packed enough, and combat svcks, and stuff like that. It truly is depressing, but such is the game industry. There is a reason why hardly anybody plays MUD's anymore, because there are much more up to date graphical games and stuff. I play MUD's though !

I going to complain about about the game. I was doing a quest last night and it came to a point when it stop functioning. I have to go to USEPWiki to that quest to see there are any bugs in it which it had. Lucky I am on a pc (too bad about the console) that I have to put in console commands (two of them) to process through the quest. I know this is a big game but I wish that Beth test the game before shipping out. Hopefully patching that quest up.

This game is not perfect but I still like it.

OP, have you considered that if people do not come here and post (constructive) criticism it will be more difficult for Bethesda to improve the next version?

I love the game so far, but criticism doesn't bother me, everyone has a right to their opinions.

Ugh, what are you trying to achieve OP? Rally the supposed "anti-haters" here?

I enjoy Skyrim, having almost 100 hours clocked on it, but I am getting sick and tired of the usual Bethesda Defense Forces behavior, which is labelling every sort of criticism as troll or whining. :shakehead:

troll alert :flamethrower:

Also it will be difficult for them to fix bugs in a patch if we don't complain about the bugs. Those who care about the game, complain about the game.

I say half-joking, half-seriously that I came to this forum to swap experiences with other fans of the game. It seems though that I'm getting in to more fights with trolls on this forum than I ever did in Skyrim.

If you want to play an old RPG, go play an old RPG. Videogames have evolved in the past 20 years, thank god for that.

hahaha whining about the whiners. you sir totally /fail.

While this thread is not very constructive, I do sympathize with its sentiment. Lots of the perpetually aggrieved/disappointed "old school" ES fans here remind me of what I would probably be like if I frequented message boards devoted to discussing new episodes of 'The Simpsons.' My chief contribution on such a board would be to complain about how disappointing the series is now, compared to how great it was back from 1990-1996. I would be entirely justified in holding such an opinion, and of course I would have every right to express it. But fortunately for those who are still fans of 'The Simpsons' and like to discuss it online, I choose not to exercise that right.

Each specific individual complains about specific aspects of the game, even though, all in all, most enjoy playing it.

Wha's your reaction?

You weld all those miscelaneous complaints into an inextricable bundle and paint a picture of deep, uniform and all-encopassing railing.
See the problem here?

I agree, although I am new to TES series as of Oblivion. If I did not like the game, I would not complain about it, however I did do a little complaining about FONV when it came out, so I can sort of see the side of the plaintiff as well(I stress sort of). I tend to space out my gaming as there is a lot to do in SKYRIM. With that being said, I really enjoy the game thus far, and will keep doing so...

I really think the game is quite off the hook...

Thats not what he said at all and Im sick to my eyeballs with this comment that has no rhyme or reason.

What on Nirn is wrong with wanting games of the scope, quality and depth of yore?
What in Oblivion is wrong with wanting a game to be like a good game?

Nothing.
So please.
When people say they want a game like the great games they remember from the past, do not go making odd comments about how they should go play that game then.

Yeah... don't do that here. This is a forum, people can civilly discuss why they like or don't like a game. Please don't lecture people. If you find some topics disagreeable, then skip them. Report threads that get derailed, but don't make threads complaining about complainers. Thanks.