Do you feel the fallout series should end?

Post » Wed May 09, 2012 4:57 pm

No.

They have no reason to end, they can write and write and write these stories, because the games are not direct sequels, which is pretty unique for a gaming franchise.

Take Modern Warfare 3, for example, all the characters are getting killed off one-by-one, eventually, there's going to be a sole survivor, and the series will end.

Fallout, on the other hand, can write a story where you must find a water chip, then, in the next game, you must find a vault, in the next game you search for your father, and in the next, look for your chip.

Most of these are completely different (except the slight reference to The Vault Dweller and Vault 13 in Fallout 1&2), and I feel that they will continue to write these new stories for a long while.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 8:52 pm

http://www.cracked.com/blogimages/2009/02/timepanties2.jpg

:rofl: He kind of looks like an older version of Ulysses...or Morpheus :blink:


I wouldn't want NV to be the end, they reference so many unseen regions and talk about the MWBoS. I at least want the MWBoS to appear in a game before it wraps up.

Responce has a Lonesome Road Spoiler:
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And I guess he would be similar to Ulysses before he was on his blind quest for rage after a man/woman who most likely did not know what that device would do to a place he thought would make a nice home.

I don't mean that I want New Vegas to be the last Fallout game, just the last game in the New Vegas area. I would love to see another game with the Midwestern brotherhood, and the Midwestern US in general.

As for Ulysses:

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Did you ever do a playthrough where you have a high speech skill? I thought Ulysses was kind of a [censored] as well, until I went back with a high speech skill and got the indy Vegas ending. He's actually not as blindly violent as he comes off as being when you first talk to him/hear his plans.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 1:34 pm

He kind of looks like an older version of Ulysses...or Morpheus :blink:

I just noticed the link, says "panties" :rofl: (FYI, I stole your ROFL.)
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 2:18 pm

I'd rather the game as a series end soon, because you can only have so many games before the game becomes the 'Sonic the Hedgehog' of gaming. I mean that in the sense that the only things that'd be left would be are two types of fan, the disgruntled fan who gripes and moans over the changes of their nostalgic childhood, and the fan that willingly wallows the fecal pile excuse of a game. It doesnt matter if you want to throw a hissy and say 'BUT I LIKE IT SO IT SHOULDNT END!', because quite frankly, the truth is, it's better you'e disappointed as a kid that Santa clause isnt real then being some 35 year old manchild who still actually believes some fatman sneaks into your house and leaves presents. It's best to let Fallout end while it's a LIKED game. In the game industry, letting a game have 3 games is a pretty bold endeavour without the endeavour beeing utter rubbish to the fanbase, but Fallout has had six games, one of those six is half jokingly 'banned' to be spoken of by fans because it was rubbish. No need to let it continue and just one after the other game becomes [censored].

Am I saying it should end right now? Not at all, but I think after Fallout 4, the seventh installment of the series, it's best to consider calling it quits while we're ahead.

"Santa clause isnt real" belongs in the spoiler section doesn't it? :P
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 5:23 pm

I don't mean that I want New Vegas to be the last Fallout game, just the last game in the New Vegas area. I would love to see another game with the Midwestern brotherhood, and the Midwestern US in general.

As for Ulysses:

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Did you ever do a playthrough where you have a high speech skill? I thought Ulysses was kind of a [censored] as well, until I went back with a high speech skill and got the indy Vegas ending. He's actually not as blindly violent as he comes off as being when you first talk to him/hear his plans.

I understand, some people who were on this thread seemed to not so I was just clearing that up.

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Well his quest is pretty blind and rage filled. However he is not that way by nature and, when convinced to see things from a different point of view, is very civilized. Especially for a tribal who once served Caesar himself.

"Santa clause isnt real" belongs in the spoiler section doesn't it? :tongue:

He isn't?
Just kidding.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 7:23 pm

I'd rather the game as a series end soon, because you can only have so many games before the game becomes the 'Sonic the Hedgehog' of gaming. I mean that in the sense that the only things that'd be left would be are two types of fan, the disgruntled fan who gripes and moans over the changes of their nostalgic childhood, and the fan that willingly wallows the fecal pile excuse of a game. It doesnt matter if you want to throw a hissy and say 'BUT I LIKE IT SO IT SHOULDNT END!', because quite frankly, the truth is, it's better you'e disappointed as a kid that Santa clause isnt real then being some 35 year old manchild who still actually believes some fatman sneaks into your house and leaves presents. It's best to let Fallout end while it's a LIKED game. In the game industry, letting a game have 3 games is a pretty bold endeavour without the endeavour beeing utter rubbish to the fanbase, but Fallout has had six games, one of those six is half jokingly 'banned' to be spoken of by fans because it was rubbish. No need to let it continue and just one after the other game becomes [censored].

Am I saying it should end right now? Not at all, but I think after Fallout 4, the seventh installment of the series, it's best to consider calling it quits while we're ahead.
This.
Exactly how I feel and have tried to say since the start.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 10:53 pm

I think it should end on Fallout 7, with a n unexpected ending. Not 200 years later the nations nuked themselves again... Or nothing stupid such as aliens returned to earth and abducted all the people.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 3:45 pm

I think it should end on Fallout 7, with a n unexpected ending. Not 200 years later the nations nuked themselves again... Or nothing stupid such as aliens returned to earth and abducted all the people.
i'd personally say 5 as 7 seems a bit of a push to be honest.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 12:25 pm

I hope it doesn't end for a long time yet. It's the only post apocalyptic game I've enjoyed so far.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 11:12 pm

i'd personally say 5 as 7 seems a bit of a push to be honest.
If it were up to me I would make 4 and 5 be about Lyons Bos and finish that story up. Then 6 and 7 could possibly be about the rising of the new permanent nations. The maybe with a spinoff or two, like in Seattle, to wrap up loose ends.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 8:35 pm

I think the 'nuclear wasteland' theme is gonna be hard to sustain believably - civilization should be getting back on its feet now, and the NCR is apparently doing its Manifest Destiny thing as of FNV. The series should only continue if it continues to evolve - show us the various growing civilizations, and the way they interact as they bump up against one another. If they're still doing the nuclear wasteland schtick in 2350 I'd rather they not do it at all. It would be even lamer if they go the tabula rasa route and have a second round of nuclear bombings that sets everything back to day zero.
"post apocalyptic" is a huge theme these days, more than it ever has been, the entire post apocalyptic/retro 50 type stuff...not sure what you're even talking about, saying people are burned out on it...rofl, hardly
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 2:09 pm

"post apocalyptic" is a huge theme these days, more than it ever has been, the entire post apocalyptic/retro 50 type stuff...not sure what you're even talking about, saying people are burned out on it...rofl, hardly
He's not saying that people are getting tired of the post apocalyptic setting, he's getting tired of the nuclear wasteland setting in Fallout. As in the Capital Wasteland is still a desolate, barren wasteland with barely anyone travelling the roads after two centuries. Eventually some semblance of a thriving population is going to show itself within that time. In the Mojave you can clearly see signs of life and civilization all over because this is what would have actually happened two centuries after nuclear devestation.

I agree with him. I would much rather see people rebuilding civilization then another barren wasteland.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 6:37 pm

No, I don't think Fallout should ever end.
Even if one nation rules all of North America by the end of it I still don't want it to end.
It's a continouos story, just cause it's left a certain theme doesn't mean it should end.
I want to see the aftermath upon aftermath upon aftermath.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 5:00 pm

Nah, I don't think it'll end.

However, I also don't see a reason why Obsidian shouldn't be involved again (despite what the hatemongers say here :hehe:).
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 11:02 am

He's not saying that people are getting tired of the post apocalyptic setting, he's getting tired of the nuclear wasteland setting in Fallout. As in the Capital Wasteland is still a desolate, barren wasteland with barely anyone travelling the roads after two centuries. Eventually some semblance of a thriving population is going to show itself within that time. In the Mojave you can clearly see signs of life and civilization all over because this is what would have actually happened two centuries after nuclear devestation.

I agree with him. I would much rather see people rebuilding civilization then another barren wasteland.
if civilization is rebuilding too much, its really not the idea of what a fallout game is...new vegas was a one off type game to fill the gap between FO3 and FO4, kinda an extra fallout game, like they said when they were making it, its set in the fallout universe but not a sequel to FO3, so the rebuildling civilization part might make more sense in las vegas where no bombs fell, but on the east coast the capitol wasteland was pretty messed up still so, i doubt FO4 is gonna jump too far ahead, if civilization is too rebuilt, then you don't have a post apocalyptic survival game, it would be a contradiction to even call it fallout.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 1:54 pm

He's not saying that people are getting tired of the post apocalyptic setting, he's getting tired of the nuclear wasteland setting in Fallout. As in the Capital Wasteland is still a desolate, barren wasteland with barely anyone travelling the roads after two centuries. Eventually some semblance of a thriving population is going to show itself within that time. In the Mojave you can clearly see signs of life and civilization all over because this is what would have actually happened two centuries after nuclear devestation.

I agree with him. I would much rather see people rebuilding civilization then another barren wasteland.

think i should point out that people couldn't go into DC until about 50 years ago due to high radiation
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 7:20 am

if civilization is rebuilding too much, its really not the idea of what a fallout game is...new vegas was a one off type game to fill the gap between FO3 and FO4, kinda an extra fallout game, like they said when they were making it, its set in the fallout universe but not a sequel to FO3, so the rebuildling civilization part might make more sense in las vegas where no bombs fell, but on the east coast the capitol wasteland was pretty messed up still so, i doubt FO4 is gonna jump too far ahead, if civilization is too rebuilt, then you don't have a post apocalyptic survival game, it would be a contradiction to even call it fallout.

The areas in the originals were messed up far further than CW. Yet, by the time of Fallout 2, a great deal of rebuilding and social evolution had happened.

And I don't think Fallout needs to, nor should, be a post apoc survival game in a forced manner (like with Fallout 3 and its huge unnecessary leap in time, yet depicting a world a few hours after the bombs hit), or a (personal) survival game at all for that matter. But rahter an exploration of the society and human behavior after a huge disaster (depicted in consistent way).
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 7:34 pm

"Santa clause isnt real" belongs in the spoiler section doesn't it? :tongue:
I'm to cool for spoiler tags or spoiler sections. :teehee:

There sure is alot of that 'It shouldnt end because I say it shouldnt' I was mentioning earlier. Seriously, just because you like a game does not justify a sequel. A sequel seldom turns out as good as the predecessor. Seriously, Fallout 4 will be the seventh Fallout game, it's pushing that 'cashcow' level.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 11:41 am

if civilization is rebuilding too much, its really not the idea of what a fallout game is...new vegas was a one off type game to fill the gap between FO3 and FO4, kinda an extra fallout game, like they said when they were making it, its set in the fallout universe but not a sequel to FO3, so the rebuildling civilization part might make more sense in las vegas where no bombs fell, but on the east coast the capitol wasteland was pretty messed up still so, i doubt FO4 is gonna jump too far ahead, if civilization is too rebuilt, then you don't have a post apocalyptic survival game, it would be a contradiction to even call it fallout.

That's the problem with Beth. They stated that every Fallout title will be moving up in the timeline. Quite a "shoot-yourself-in-the-foot" kind of situation, IMHO.http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?&app=forums&module=extras§ion=legends#
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 9:05 pm

I just hope that they do something about the constantly developing world. I think we should let Avellone nuke everything to the orbit. It's not Fallout if everything is rebuilt, same ol' USA just with a different name and flag.

I can't agree with this school of though, we should just move to a new area where things aren't so developed (Not quite as drastic as Fallout 3, mind you.) Another round of nukings would be awful writing.

Nah, I don't think it'll end.

However, I also don't see a reason why Obsidian shouldn't be involved again (despite what the hatemongers say here :hehe:).

I agree wholeheartedly. Didn't New Vegas outsell Fallout 3 anyways?
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 8:40 pm

It'll end, just like everything. Since they took a 36yr jump from Fallout 2 to Fallout 3 who knows how big a jump they will take for other games, if they keep things happening in closer time frames or at the same time they could last a long long time but taking gaps like 30 - 50 years means we don't see how people have been growing and civilizing, meaning we miss the main thing the game was about.
Soon it would just end up a Modern Warfare game with as a NCR soldier being flown across the country with and army to wage war on opposing super Tin mean on the East Coast, later games would be againist China or Britain or Russia...

Small time jumps will make them last ages.
Large time jumps will destroy ithe story.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 1:35 pm

Noooooo i don't want it to end... i only played F3 & FNV... i'm new to the series :sadvaultboy:

I'm with Smert... let's hire Obsidian again and give them time.

Nah, I don't think it'll end.

However, I also don't see a reason why Obsidian shouldn't be involved again (despite what the hatemongers say here :hehe:).
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 10:51 pm

if civilization is rebuilding too much, its really not the idea of what a fallout game is...
Uhm... Yeah it is.

Fallout is about exploring humanity and how it's changed, adapted, devolved and evolved since the Great War.
Everything post-Great War is Fallout no matter how civilized it becomes.
Though war still needs to happen to some degree.
It would become rather dull and stale if something like NCR won and forcefully integrated everything else in the wasteland, cause while still Fallout the only culture is NCR, and NCR is terribly boring.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 2:38 pm

if civilization is rebuilding too much, its really not the idea of what a fallout game is...new vegas was a one off type game to fill the gap between FO3 and FO4, kinda an extra fallout game, like they said when they were making it, its set in the fallout universe but not a sequel to FO3, so the rebuildling civilization part might make more sense in las vegas where no bombs fell, but on the east coast the capitol wasteland was pretty messed up still so, i doubt FO4 is gonna jump too far ahead, if civilization is too rebuilt, then you don't have a post apocalyptic survival game, it would be a contradiction to even call it fallout.
The theme of Fallout is "war never changes", meaning that no matter how much the wasteland of the US changes and no matter how much the people try to rebuild there will always be war.

Fallout 3 isn't, from everything I'm hearing, really a sequel of Fallout 1 or 2. Also from everything I'm hearing the wastelands in Fallout 1 and 2 were more desolate and dangerous then the Capital wasteland and yet the NCR came out of it.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 6:32 pm

Yes, just only when the writing is on a catastrophic downfall, but for the very last fallout obsidian should do ALL of the writing cuz i dont enjoy black vs white as much as gray vs gray.

As for u guy saying that CW is less hostile then the F1 and F2, im not sure about that

And for that ?lexander guy, please [censored] off from fallout:new vegas foruns and dont get in the series discunsion pages.
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