Because that would suggest that the Institute had everything already to go, the replacement synth and anything else needed, then sat back watching the family, waiting for that one opportune moment when Warwick would accidentally off himself so they could rush in and replace him before anyone knew something was wrong.

There's also a terminal in BioScience that explicitly states that they are going to 'acquire' and 'interrogate' the original Warwick. Do you think that Warwick ever left the Institute? To anyone that does, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you, cash only.

He may have left the Institute: either as a big green homicidal cannibal guy or a stinky green corpse in a body bag.

The Institute's Director at the the time of Shaun's kidnapping was a woman. In the Director's Recording 108 holotape she rants about how the accident with the prototype in Diamond City threatens her legacy and decades of work as Director. The Broken Mask incident took place in 2229, two years after Shaun was taken from Vault 111.

You left out the rest of the post:

"It wasn't my idea to settle down with kid in the middle of Diamond City. I thought it was a terrible idea, actually. But it was one of the old man's pet projects, so here we were. Me and the kid like a happy little family. I ended up liking it a reminder of what things might have been if things had turned out differently. But there's no going back. I knew it was just temporary, and it would be back to normal business before too long. This whole setup was part of some elaborate plan of the old man's. Seems obvious now we were bait for our old friend from the Vault. The timing couldn't have been an accident. That's not how the old man works. I wonder if he outsmarted me in the end. Another loose end tied up."

This is all dialogue from the same quest. There is no question that "the old man" is meant to refer to "Father" Shaun here, right?

Back to the quotation in question:

"I never knew why we didn't just refreeze the rest of them, but we had our orders. I guess the old man didn't want so many loose ends. Too bad he left alive the one person he shouldn't have."

Given the entire context, this implies that Shaun decided it wasn't worth the trouble to continue keeping them on ice when all he was interested in was keeping his parent alive to experiment on. Kellogg is reflecting on the vault dwellers who, like him, are "loose ends" that "the old man" decided to kill. So yeah, I think sixty years after the kidnapping Shaun decided to order his parent released while everyone else in the vault got killed. The other explanation is that there was more than one "the old man." I've already given my thoughts as to why that seems less plausible. Naturally, ymmv.

Really, the whole thing seems ridiculously contrived so that the sole survivor is the sole survivor. There's no justifiable reason for Shaun or anyone else in the Institute to needlessly murder them all when there are better alternatives like simply releasing them. But taking the dialogue we're presented with in the quest, Shaun seems to be the one left holding the bag, and I can see how it fits his character's views to make that decision.

However, Kellogg specifically says refreeze, implying that they didn't freeze them immediately afterwards. Second, if they were thawed at the time of the SS the second time around, we'd still see them suffocating, unless you're going to claim that Sean did a two-step unfreeze tactic for the evulz. Third, Kellogg doesn't consider himself part of the Institute, but hired help. So he'd have to be physically at Vault 111 with other Institute scientists for the others to be thawed out again before he says "we." However, the SS was released remotely (as noted by the nearby terminal), so Kellogg couldn't have been at Vault 111 for the second thawing.


Simply put, there's more proof against the fact that Sean ordered the deaths of the Vault 111 residents than there is for it.

Which is, quite reasonably, enough time for a new Director to step up. Either because the previous one died or may have just retired. Which is especially true if the previous Director was, indeed, an "old man."

I don't think there's any other evidence which suggests that the female Director on the 108 holotape was The Director at the time of Shaun's kidnapping.

So in 2227, Shaun is kidnapped. In 2229, the Director is concerned about her legacy of decades but she has only been the Director for less than two years?

I think you're mixing up what she says a bit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbrEyP4Q-dw

She mentions the incident threatening "decades of work to keep us out of the spotlight." Which doesn't refer to her work directly, but rather The Institute's as a whole.

Now she does say that her "legacy as Director will not be tarnished" but that's pretty easy to explain. She doesn't want her planned career as Director to be tarnished by any incident like this at all, especially one early in her term. She doesn't mention. for instance, that this is her "past legacy" or "decade-long legacy as Director." She's likely referring to her future legacy as Director. And not wanting it to be tarnished right off the bat by the Broken Mask incident. She sounds pretty young on the tape, so I think its pretty probable she's an up and coming Director who just attained the chair and is complaining about not wanting this incident to define the rest of her career.

So I still don't see any conflict personally.

Okay, I re-read it on the wiki (can't watch video right now)


She says, "I will be very clear: my legacy as Director will not be tarnished by your division's mistakes. I am going to find out exactly who approved any sort of operation above ground, and that person will be held fully accountable. The mess it caused in Diamond City threatens decades of work to keep us out of the spotlight."


My interpretation is that the "decades of work" is part of her legacy and "the mess" of the rogue division is what threatens to "tarnish" it. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

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