You know what we haven't had in a while? Rank the factions t : Fallout: New Vegas

» Thu May 03, 2012 4:20 pm

Other than the Strip House has accomplished nothing to help better the Mojave. The NCR are on there way to using nukes.

» Thu May 03, 2012 1:16 pm

Other than the Strip House has accomplished nothing to help better the Mojave. The NCR are on there way to using nukes.

Because he did not have any "muscle", his securitrons. And how is NCR on their way to nukin stuff? Do they even have nukes?

» Thu May 03, 2012 5:57 am

Because he did not have any "muscle", his securitrons. And how is NCR on their way to nukin stuff? Do they even have nukes?

NCR is following the ways of the Old World and are very likely to discover how to use Nukes. How do we know House will stay true to what he has claimed? Looks like to me so far he just sits in the Strip surrounded by his securitrons not giving a dawm about what happens to anything else.

» Thu May 03, 2012 10:04 am

Because he did not have any "muscle", his securitrons. And how is NCR on their way to nukin stuff? Do they even have nukes?

No they dont but Bacon believes NCR is well on their way on ressurecting the Old World (with all its nukes and [censored])

» Thu May 03, 2012 10:52 am

NCR is following the ways of the Old World and are very likely to discover how to use Nukes.

They wont ok. Not in many years atleast.

» Thu May 03, 2012 5:39 pm

NCR is following the ways of the Old World and are very likely to discover how to use Nukes.

NCR isn't going to last long enough to discover nuclear weaponry if they don't change their course. And even if they did it would only be a one-sided nuclear war, atleast against any current faction(Ulysseus' excluded).

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:44 am

It will happen again. It will keep happening. Unless we learn from our mistakes of the old world.

» Thu May 03, 2012 11:35 am

It will happen again. It will keep happening. Unless we learn from our mistakes of the old world.

Legion probably will keep clear of nukes, I agree on that(If that is your point). But all out apocalypse, again? I can't believe it even could happen. One nuke doesn't destroy a faction like the NCR or the Legion, and there probably isn't that many of them left. And they would be rare.

» Thu May 03, 2012 10:04 am

I'm sure the secret of how to make nukes is tucked away somewhere in the ruins of somewhere.

» Thu May 03, 2012 6:41 am

Stop derailing :down:

» Thu May 03, 2012 3:21 pm

I'm derailing? :confused:

» Thu May 03, 2012 4:30 am

Legion probably will keep clear of nukes, I agree on that(If that is your point). But all out apocalypse, again? I can't believe it even could happen. One nuke doesn't destroy a faction like the NCR or the Legion, and there probably isn't that many of them left. And they would be rare.

Edit: Okay Elvis!! (look down to lessen your confusion).

They used a radiological weapon, that's nuclear technology and must contain serious nuclear material for the damage it did; so Caesar has actually used nuclear weapon.

» Thu May 03, 2012 8:59 am

They used a radiological weapon, that's nuclear technology and must contain serious nuclear material for the damage it did; so Caesar has actually used nuclear weapon.

Who is more likely do discover how to manufacture Nukes.

A faction dedicated to old world way of life.
A faction that decides depending on Technology is weak.

Yes Caesar used a Rad weapon. Are you saying NCR wouldn't?

There are only a certain amount of Nukes left in the world but to be honest NCR would be closer to discovering how to manufacture them. :ermm:

» Thu May 03, 2012 6:36 pm

Legion VS NCR is derailing in any thread that isn't titled Legion VS NCR IMO, even one about factions.
Just because it usually descends into name-calling and whatnot.

» Thu May 03, 2012 8:27 am

Who is more likely do discover how to manufacture Nukes.

A faction dedicated to old world way of life.
A faction that decides depending on Technology is weak.

Yes Caesar used a Rad weapon. Are you saying NCR wouldn't?

There are only a certain amount of Nukes left in the world but to be honest NCR would be closer to discovering how to manufacture them. :ermm:

Caesar actually manufactured and deployed a nuclear weapon. As for the NCR of course they would, they were activelly trying to do so in the Divide.

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:19 am

They used a radiological weapon, that's nuclear technology and must contain serious nuclear material for the damage it did; so Caesar has actually used nuclear weapon.

I meant the big ones, those that scar the land otherwise than just radiation. For I don't believe Caesar(well maybe Lanius) would leave a huge hole to a yet-to-be-conquered area and killing hundreds or thousands of potential citizens and slaves. A military camp would be a different thing but a nuke is a bit overkill there. And I think Caesar(Ed) understands that nuking a large area only raises opposition when moving to grab the land.

» Thu May 03, 2012 12:19 pm

The game's most intelligent are Caesar And Ullyseus.

» Thu May 03, 2012 4:53 pm

Who is more likely do discover how to manufacture Nukes.

A faction dedicated to old world way of life.
A faction that decides depending on Technology is weak.

Yes Caesar used a Rad weapon. Are you saying NCR wouldn't?

There are only a certain amount of Nukes left in the world but to be honest NCR would be closer to discovering how to manufacture them. :ermm:

No he was proving the fact that you said NCR would use Nuclear weapons, and he was explaining that so would Legion, so whats ur point with that?

» Thu May 03, 2012 5:45 pm

Legion VS NCR is derailing in any thread that isn't titled Legion VS NCR IMO, even one about factions.
Just because it usually descends into name-calling and whatnot.

We are discussing factions in a rate the faction thread. It's not long until the House lovers descend on us backed by the Enclave anyway.

» Thu May 03, 2012 11:59 am

No he was proving the fact that you said NCR would use Nuclear weapons, and he was explaining that so would Legion, so whats ur point with that?

Ok, NCR wins the war. 1000 years later the world returns to semi old world. Scientests discover on how to manufacture Nukes. Re-do.

Legion wins the war. Nobody discovers nukes, nobody needs to use them and 1000 years later the world is prospering.

» Thu May 03, 2012 5:03 pm

Okay last Off topic:
I meant the big ones, those that scar the land otherwise than just radiation. For I don't believe Caesar(well maybe Lanius) would leave a huge hole to a yet-to-be-conquered area and killing hundreds or thousands of potential citizens and slaves. A military camp would be a different thing but a nuke is a bit overkill there. And I think Caesar(Ed) understands that nuking a large area only raises opposition when moving to grab the land.

Nuclear weapons present the opportunity to completely destroy an enemy without any loss on your part, so unless Caesar really, fanatically believed in his rhetoric about technology weakening humankind or whatever then I think he would. It's all good talking the talk until you actually have to make the call, that said Caesar regard's all his subjects with impersonal feeling - can you really have friends and such in the Legion? Maybe he wouldn't find it so hard to send his people to the slaughter to prove his little point.

» Thu May 03, 2012 8:16 am

Ok, NCR wins the war. 1000 years later the world returns to semi old world. Scientests discover on how to manufacture Nukes. Re-do.

Legion wins the war. Nobody discovers nukes, nobody needs to use them and 1000 years later the world is prospering.

The Legion doesn't change in 1000 years because it's founder said no... that's not even worth a scathing retort. In-fact no, Caesar explicitally states that the transition fron nomadic warband to a standing army - which I'd say says plenty about the supposed Legion "civilian" life - is exactly what he intends; that the war with the NCR will intrinsically weed out the failing or failed parts of his society and leave something better.

EDIT: In-fact no scratch that, there will be other nations on the Earth aside from just the Legion. Such an obvious answer.

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:35 am

Nuclear weapons present the opportunity to completely destroy an enemy without any loss on your part, so unless Caesar really, fanatically believed in his rhetoric about technology weakening humankind or whatever then I think he would. It's all good talking the talk until you actually have to make the call, that said Caesar regard's all his subjects with impersonal feeling - can you really have friends and such in the Legion? Maybe he wouldn't find it so hard to send his people to the slaughter to prove his little point.

Since there were valid reasons for this to be on topic, I might as well continue. :biggrin:

Are you talking about Caesar Edward or Lanius? For Lanius I can believe that he nukes first and thinks later, but Ed? I'd believe he would only nuke an isolated target that is purely militaric, thus justifying his actions when they are questioned by his newer subjects.

» Thu May 03, 2012 7:17 am

Since there were valid reasons for this to be on topic, I might as well continue. :biggrin:

Are you talking about Caesar Edward or Lanius? For Lanius I can believe that he nukes first and thinks later, but Ed? I'd believe he would only nuke an isolated target that is purely militaric, thus justifying his actions when they are questioned by his newer subjects.

Yeah that's how it starts. One minute he's just removing a major obsticle for the Legion, it sets a precident that makes justifying later use easier; either do or don't, you can't sit on the fence with regards to the deployment of nuclear weapons.

» Thu May 03, 2012 3:06 pm

Legion, is the best choice for humanity.