I just want choices, a MQ that is flexible enough for a necromancer or DB assassain to have as much reason to do it as a knight. That might require different starts, a choice of paths along the way, and maybe a choice of endings. 1 ending may become official cannon but thats no reason for there not to be different possible endings in the game.

I'd also like a more delayed start to the MQ. DF and MW both handled this better than Oblivion.

Yes and no. I like being a good character, I like to solve things and to be greeted friendly by people on the street. But I am happy just as much roleplaying a farmer as fighting through epic dungeons.

Playing THE epic hero is fun......once. After a couple of characters, games like MW begin to "grow" on you, where OB's "forced" MQ makes it feel awkward to ignore the major storyline. It's hard to justify setting up a house and getting comfy when you're constantly being told "the world is coming to an end".

To make it even stranger, OB didn't even let you play "THE" hero, just the ultimate hero's "gofer" ("go fer this, go fer that"). And then you ended up as a spectator to the final showdown.....

Yeah I agree, that's what I was talking about in my post too.
Morrowind was slightly better in that you were the focus of the story, but still, I think they should have made the end of the MQ feel more urgent, and it still made me feel like I was just Azura's henchman prophet.

The thing is, all these little problems are only problems to some. Think, you were mostly the gofer in Daggerfall too. I think they just need to live up to the reputation of absolute freedom. If I want to be as big a hero as the mighty Kamina of Team Gurren, I should be able to. If I want to manipulate events from behind the scenes, I should be able to do that as well. If I want to ignore the main quest, that should be fine. That's also why I think there should be some time after the game starts, say five in-game days, before we can initiate the first MQ mission. That way it isn't stuffed down our throats.

Do you like being a hero?

Answer: Yes.

Though a "small" fee is required.

I believe I met several characters in my playthroughs of Oblivion belonging to players who had the idea of "Well, the main quest says demons are invading. I say that's not what I think my character would do unless paid." Their corpses were strung up and set on fire behind the Oblivion Gates.

Face it... in Oblivion's questline, as much as your character may have hated it, he's supposedly forced to do the main Quest... If the game actually had consequences for actions, giving the Amulet to Jaufre - or just passing altogether on the main quest - would result in the entire gameworld slowly being replaced with the Plane of Oblivion, and eventually there will be no sandbox for your character to run around in... just a hellish Wasteland with an impossible number of demons trying to Kill the Last of the Humans. Did you really think Dagon would even really reward the Mythic Dawn after he assimilated Nirn into the eldritch Planes of Oblivion? All non-Daedra would be killed. Even Daedra will be killed, but they just come back. Mortals don't.

Yes and No


I like to be the hero on my first file, but then I focus on other things like having an all mages guild character, a killer of bandits, a hunter, a commoner, and maybe sometimes a beggar ( except on oblivion there are almost no opportunities to make you charater you own , so this is mostly on morrowind and daggerfall. )

I wouldn't mind being an Anti-hero for once.

I rather be the princess that gets saved by the hero than the hero.
Or just a supporting charactor.

I do not like being the hero, because everything afterward is anti-climatic. Okay, I am the Arch Mage, next I go out and and clean out some goblin caves to make money? That just seems silly, but that is what the rest of the game is at that point. Or I am the Hero of Kvatch, and then I am joining the Fighters Guild to save some rats in a crazy lady's basemant? Talk about a let-down. :nope:

I prefer to just be some regular jane doing her part to make the world a better (or worse) place. I hate people calling me a hero. Or having a statue. I did the main quest once just to see what happened in it, and I never want to do it again just because I do not want people saying "Its you, the Hero of Kvatch!" everywhere I go.

I can agree to that. If the hero was made a part of the picture rather than the grand scheme of things, then it would make for a better flow and would tie everything into the plot mechanic better. However, I also wouldn't mind if the hero was made to look like a piece of the picture, only to find out in the end that his existence means absolutely everything, but that would be a little cliche, don't you think? :shrug:

I've always thought of the Nerevarine as a sort of anti-hero; I mean, it's not like you're overthrowing a church and robbing an entire culture of their religion or anything. . .

Sure, you're saving the world in the process, but think about all the people who've devoted their lives to a faith which you completely undermine and topple. Heck, one or two of my characters even -killed- Vivec, their supposed god. I mean, yeah, one could make the argument that the Tribunal was oppressive or evil or whatever, but aside from Almalexia going nutty, I never really saw them as a destructive force in the world and there were alot of people who really loved their gods.

. . .and if you read the book "Infernal City"

Actually, I take that back; that was Morrowind's storyline, which wasn't that cliche at all.

could not agree more..i dont neccasarily always want to do the right thing but if i do reward me appropietly give me some epic gear not juts greens...

I like the absence of rewards for doing "the right thing". It's pretty cool, actually. I agree as far as the game making preconfigured assumptions about your character. I'd really like to see class orientation (stealth, magic, combat) or birthsigns determine the journal entries or dialogue.

That is what I try to be in almost every rpg I play... :goodjob:

I like being a hero, I suppose, technically, but I don't like being a 'chosen one' around whom all the problems and solutions are tied, to whom demigods kneel and from whom demons flee in terror. It's important to feel threatened, challenged, limited and mortal. Especially in fantasy games, I think. But that's me.

As other said, Daggerfall was the best game of the series from this point of view. You could play it as you liked, and that is what an RPG is all about, playing YOUR story.

haha maybe not the world but a province or a group of people, or some object of great value/importance...john mclain does this all the time!

or if its your first time playing the game, and u didnt pay any attention to first few people u talked to in the game, and dumped everything in your inventory at the first merch u came upon, so u could by some nice chitin boots....ahahhaha now your lev 15, hey was there something about a main guest...oh crap i gotta go find were i sold that package....man that was hella fun. huge pain, but i still remember it, which means it was good!!

Saving the world is what its about. There's really nothing more to say.

Amen. I don't really feel like being an insignificant character doing nothing but menial work and being a peon, and watching NPC's do everything important. I wanna be engrossed and see important events through the eyes of my character. Learn with him in a fantastical world. Much different from our own.

Cannot agree more, i would love the opportunity to choose between overt or covert.

I'm nota massive fan of bein the "centre-of-attention" type hero.
And if i had the choice, i would defintely have at least one hero, who was more subtle in his journeys.

Oblivion does force you (in a way) to be the BIG hero.
You have to prety much single handedly destroy all the oblivion gates,
when you go into a guild, your objectives are to become the Master of the guild,
When you go to the Arena, you must become the "Overall Champion", with "No Equal".
To me that feels forced, although Martin is the saviour of the Land,
You are still recognised as the Champion of Cyrodill.

I hope in the next TES game you can choose whether you want to be well reknown, or the humble traveller.