The same empire exists, it just has a different monarch-ial? family. compare it to all the different lines of the Kings and Queens of England.

Also the empire shrunk. A lot. like it doesn't even control all of Cyrodiil anymore. I'll bet you the next game is about it expanding + a tower.

What the heck about expanding + a tower? That is kinda like "WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???" sounding.

The Septim Empire is gone. There were several families in that dynasty, but it's gone now. Mede had to invade Cyrodiil (the city), and that's the source of his reputation.

but nobody fought back against him, and the Elder Counsel elected him Emporer afterwards.

The roman empire was still the same roman empire before and after Caesar took over Rome.

Meh. I don't really care. I'mma just sit back and watch the chaos.

You do not know your history then. After he was assassinated (HE WAS DICTATOR NOT EMPEROR) in the Senate brutis who betrayed him before took his army with others and went north making a few year long bloody war. Cesar's nephew Augustus became a tribune and with Mark Anthony (who was later killed in another civil war) Fought for multiple years against Brutis and his allys in Gaul and possibly illyria. Then after more political junk Augustus was elected emperor causing tons of insanity (imagine the US becoming communist it was like that). So then after more events he went into a brutal war against Egypt and Mark Anthony. He did have his own + his uncles veteran legions. It was chaotic for years they lost most traces of a republic (democracy) and became basically a permanent never ending dictatorship.

Well, now that the Septim line has been broken, the new ruler, Titus Mede, will need to regain control of the splintered empire. And by tower, he means a new anchor for Mundus.

Hopefully, seeing as that would just mean you have to reenact the the ending to Oblivion (except instead of going in between cities, you'd go in between countries), we won't be in Cyrodil anymore, seeing as every game is set in a new location.

Not all empires are evil. The British empire for instance wasn't evil.

It all depends on the current emperor. Tamriel was lucky for the Septim dynasty. Lets hope that luck carried through...

I know that. But you still refer to it as the roman empire before and after it lost its senate. And i didn't call him emperor or dictator, as the proper translation of his title is more like "First-Citizen."

No it was called the Roman Republic. Then the Roman Empire. I do love the Romans for all the tech and united ideas that is one reason along with less blood shed that they are good but in TES I want to see a shaterd empire that is barly there you can help or not your choice.

Yep, that's why the Sepoy Rebellion never happened. Oh, wait, it did, with good reason.

Like I've said earlier, when empires encroach on the culture and traditions of a land, it becomes a very bad thing.

Yah look at the pissed off zulu people and how they fought back with a horde of warriors from all tribes to regain their way of life and get rid of the white man. Also the native amarican wars they fought to the last man. Same with Sparticus kinda.

If you're pro-empire, take a look at this, it hardly eve mentions the moral argument, but it does give socio-economic reasons for the independence of Morrowind and Blackmarsh.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-eastern-provinces-impartially-considered

Empires thrive and perish by the sword. This is war! Sublime WAR! There can be no retreat!!! Ahem... :hehe: sorry... let my sense of nationalism get the best of me.

I like the empire. It *was* useful for keeping all the other provinces under control(Like preventing them from bashing each others skulls in, constant invasion of each other etc, but I'm betting you that some of them will start getting more energetic than others.

I suppose the one major flaw of Tamriel's Empire is that it is highly dependant on a competent monarch. The Empire is so fragmented that without a powerful head of state many lesser nobles will step into the power vacuum. Kind of interesting how Chancellor Ocato couldn't send any Imperial troops to save his own province in Oblivion.

As far as politics-wise I think the current form of the Empire is weak, and probably not a good or lasting nation. Game-wise I loved the Imperial presence in Morrowind.

The altmer are obsessively eugenic. Anyone that isn't pure and perfect isn't an altmer, and therefore worthless, even among their own people.

But I think the word you are looking for is genocidal.

All the more to have the empire in the first place, so the altmers don't try anything like kill off all the non-altmers.

I think I'm baised because the only two emperors I've met in the games were Uriel and Martin Septim. An empire under them? Good. An empire under someone else? I dunno.

Putting it simply, the denziens of Tamriel have more personal freedoms under the Empire than they did under the former local governments (with a few exceptions). Of course, since the government structure of the Empire is based upon Divine Right (with influence from the aristocratic populations), those freedoms could vanish instantly depending on who is the current emperor.

Since the citizens of the empire do not have any concept of Natural Law (mostly due to the fact that they are much more inclined to support Divine Right thanks to the daily interactions with the Divine), a truly free society will probably never appear (at least not logically speaking).

I personally like the Empire. I also think that they bring more good then bad to their provinces. Even though they establish their own temples wherever they go and do things their own way, they still let everyone do as they want as long as they don't break the law (or sometimes, stand in the way of imperial interests) which I don't see as evil. The world is better without some culture though, like the slave trade of Morrowind.

Oh, no. I'd have to completely disagree. I want to see evil and corrupt leaders. It really adds spice to the world, and makes everything interesting.

It's why I so want to see the Aldmeri Dominion rise. As I said, not to the extent of the empire, of course, but having quite a large political place in the word would be nice.

I don't care about the Empire that much. Don't bother me because they never got in my way really.

To the people that are saying that Morrowind was dominated and invaded by the Empire; You don't have to worry any more! Morrowind is a one big desert right now anyway. No one lives there, its dead.

The Mede Dynasty still has a lot of potential - if it does turn out to be a Dynasty, that is.

Titus may be a false start, an interim ruler the way Cuhelecain was. That's why Cuhelecain was refered to as "Emperor Zero" of the Septim Dynasty.

My guess is that the true successor to the Dragon Throne will either be Attrebus through some act of apotheosis or somebody completely different, possibly somebody like Sul.

or Annig. Remember, the first Imperial Emperor was an Empress.

I found the Empire pretty badass in Redguard and Morrowind. Disciplined, organized, and cunning. Not to mention when you have a dragon named Nafalilaargajumpinjehosephat on your side, you just know you're up there on the list of coolest armies in Tamriel. The boring, memetic legion in Oblivion made me hate them.

Still, I don't think that the TES series should ever be completely be without an Empire. Even if they lose a great deal of their power, I'm hoping to see traces of them in TES V as a sort of "shadow organization", like with the Blades in Daggerfall. Especially if the next game is set in a very decentralized province such as Skyrim or Black Marsh - I could definitely imagine agents sent by the Emperor to try and sway local nobles and militia forces to their cause.