Well I think you hit the nail on the head with this, we need not only this objective game type but also a teamdeath match also to add balence to everyones play prefrences.

And someone above said crysis2 wasnt good, and thats some BS cuz its basicly call of duty but instead of running around getting killed by campers, you get a bunch of awesome gadgets to use and if you can get good at the game then you can easily spot and kill anyone using anything so it isn't really cheap or anything cuz you can do what they were doing right back. Sorry for the mini-rant

its called squad death match in battlefield

wow. what a bunch of bed-wetters. seriously.

im here to support BIRDMANS suggestion to add a TDM mode. i didn't buy BRINK for TDM nor do i necessary prefer it over objective based modes but it has it's place and it can be a lot of fun. those of you that knock it , don't like it or for whatever reason feel a need to flame this guy for suggesting it... DON'T PLAY IT ... it's that simple. to be perfectly honest i rarely play SDM on BC2 but when i do i enjoy myself and it's a great way to focus on your CQ reflexes. (which get a little rusty when your playing objective based modes)

regardless of what BLINK represents to you ... no one can deny that BRINK is a FPS not CHUTES & LADDERS nor is it suppose to be. we are here to blow [censored] up. if you want to hang out in the back where it's safe and play paddy-cake do it somewhere else. we (well most of us) are here for the competition; we enjoy screaming obscenities at the screen into the wee hours of the morning as we shoot, stab and bludgeon complete strangers to death in the company of our friends. :gun: :swear: :toughninja:

on a side note ... ive been playing COD since it came out and i think (just my opinion) it's gone downhill. activision needs to get their [censored] together because as it stands now the COD franchise doesn't hold a candle to what EA is doing with BF. (kind of sad really but to the victor go the spoils)

ANYGAY, I should have taken the time to explain my title and other comments better. BUT IT GOT YOU TO POST DIDNT IT! COD/HALO, I am saying, is the best because they are the biggest money makers (today, not 1990).
Money doesnt necessarily mean best. COD is a shoddily thought out game on an ancient engine.

I HATE HALO, I returned Reach and sold all other Halo games asap. COD, as I said in my 1st post, I am bored with and I will agree MWF/MFW2 was the last "great" installment of that series.
Lol you seriously thought MW2 was great???/ Hahaha

I am dissappointed with Blak Ops. So to that person that is going to tell me no your wrong counterstrike is the best, we are in 2011.....get out of your parents basemant and move on.
Erm, Ive got my own house thanks. I didnt even say CS was the best game, I dont particularly like it much tbh. If you actually looked at what I said I stated that it has more players than blops et al according to steam.

The reason I started out like I did was to get people interested, I know I am in the lions den here, but It is hard to get a dev to listen. You also can NOT tell me that SD does not want to take the throne and be considered #1.
They cant and they wont, they dont have enough money behind them to do so. If you look at EA they have spent $100,000,000 on advertising alone for BF3

Why not put other game modes in the game to cater to 100% of gamers, not just the hardcoe wolfenstein people ( I had not herd that name for years, someone needs to get a 360/ps3 and buy a new/real game)???
Why buy a console, PC has more in depth games aka bigger player count etc and better controller for FPS.

Video gaming has evolved soooo much, why would they limit themselves to 1 game mode( yaaa there is multipule things you can do but you know what I mean). I like TDM because is you do get stuck with that 12 yr old, you can do your own thing and be OK(which you all hate).
Actually it seems to me to be going backwards. Lots of standard features being cut, aka consoles used to have server browsers etc

I read your entire post and in response to the OP, please define “good” (c.f. Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Kant, Mill, etc). You’ve referenced COD and Halo which are both reasonably entertaining, exceptionally popular and have provided excellent return on investment to developers/producers.

In rebutting your post, I submit that Bethesda and Splash Damage (“B&SD”) have done an absolutely stellar job of incorporating the same fundamental aspects that made COD and Halo so popular. IMHO, B&SD have done it with substantially more style which, afterall, is the http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/150224.

Looking at why these popular games work leaves one looking at the way they reward players. I submit that this occurs in three ways:
1. Positively: the sense of satisfaction you get from that match winning kill or that one time you went 20-0 (which you’ve never been able to replicate).
2. Negatively: the frustration of losing a close game or being decimated by a guy on his 20th day of actual online play
3. Socially: irrespective of your personal take on the level of social interaction in COD and Halo, you cannot deny that it exists and is a key reason playing bots gets boring – a bot isn’t a 12yr old kid screaming “svck my nuts” and killing said bot will never give you the same satisfaction as killing and tea-bagging that 12yr old reason-his-father-should-have-pulled-out. Nor is a bot a mate that you’ll see at work/school the next day.

That is how TDM works. It starts with the occasional thrills from clutch victories or fluke K/D ratios that you slavishly chase day-after-day. These thrills aren’t all that difficult to achieve in the TDM setting as all you need to worry about is popping the bad-guy before he pops you.

Reinforcing the effect of those crack-esque thrills of victory is defeat. Getting annihilated in TDM makes you want to play again and chase that victory thrill a little harder. Immediately after a loss, you attribute it to the other team’s top player (20th-day-online-guy) or immediately blame the team you landed in (they play like they’re stoned, on dial-up, have their controls upside-down, have webbed fingers, scream as though possessed, probably have epilepsy and would be better suited to playing with Lego). Regardless, one feels motivated to avenge the terrible K/D or try your hand at beating 20day-guy and either way: you’re still playing.

Brink takes these fundamental reward factors and places them in a reasonably innovative arena (at least in my experience – I’ve never played any online PC games so my experience is console-bound). Brink is quite different in that it highlights the positive reward factors – e.g. more objectives = more things to succeed at vs. simply having a positive K/D spread. In fact, if you consistently complete objectives, losing a game of Brink has very little negative impact.

While I too enjoy the idea of a TDM mode of Brink, it goes against the core concept of the game and the motivational structure. Further, while the idea of it is enticing, I’m certain actually playing Brink in a TDM setting would ultimately be unrewarding.

To put my reply to the OP into context:

1. I'm a monster on COD on the 360.
2. I enjoy the game only because I enjoy seeing my gamertag at the top of the lobby for kills and K/D ratio.
3. I generally only play TDM and hardcoe TDM - very rarely an objective based games.
4. I svck at Brink.

After 6 hours of gameplay, I’ve been on the winning team twice in online play and I have thoroughly enjoyed every game. While I received the award for most kills numerous times, I’ve found myself slowly adapting my gameplay away from my COD-refined “point-shoot, next target” response towards a more holistic strategic, team-focused game style. I think this alone is the greatest compliment I can give Brink (B&SD delivered exactly what they promised: a team-based strategy FPS) and I submit that your reasoning is entirely flawed.

Gyohdon (above) said it best: "adapt".

Ever think people want something... I dunno... Different? I personally think cod is garbage, I literally threw my copy in the trash. Hows that make you feel?

Lol you never played the Crysis or Crysis Warhead did you? If not, then you cant really comment on the abortion that is Crysis 2. It was an awful console port. If you did then what are you smoking?


I think he was referring to the infinitely better Battlefeild series, not the console port Bad Company. While BC's not bad it doesnt hold a torch up to the proper BF series.

Does wolfesstein enemy territory have TDM i think not. Does TF2 have TDM i think not. And are you kidding like saying COD is the BEST fps game out there.

Does TF2 have TDM i think not.

The thing Splash Damage doesn't realize is that not everyone gives a rat's ass about objectives, most people just want to shoot stuff. Hell I sometimes forget about objectives and just start killing people at choke points for [censored] and giggles reguardless of whether or not K/D is tracked. Is the concept of something that is proven to work and wouldn't detract from the already sub par game really scary to mindless fan boys? I mean honestly, I like this game for the most part but it's obviously going to bomb since its online portion only works about half of the time due to its inexcusable lag. Even the offline players are going to get sick of dip [censored] AI team mates, Brink isn't even close to worthy of a a $60 price tag. There's no reason not to add a variant of TDM of some sort, hell make something new out of it.
http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Arena

The thing Splash Damage doesn't realize is that not everyone gives a rat's ass about objectives, most people just want to shoot stuff. Hell I sometimes forget about objectives and just start killing people at choke points for [censored] and giggles reguardless of whether or not K/D is tracked. Is the concept of something that is proven to work and wouldn't detract from the already sub par game really scary to mindless fan boys? I mean honestly, I like this game for the most part but it's obviously going to bomb since its online portion only works about half of the time due to its inexcusable lag. Even the offline players are going to get sick of dip [censored] AI team mates, Brink isn't even close to worthy of a a $60 price tag. There's no reason not to add a variant of TDM of some sort, hell make something new out of it.
http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Arena

The thing Splash Damage doesn't realize is that not everyone gives a rat's ass about objectives, most people just want to shoot stuff. Hell I sometimes forget about objectives and just start killing people at choke points for [censored] and giggles reguardless of whether or not K/D is tracked. Is the concept of something that is proven to work and wouldn't detract from the already sub par game really scary to mindless fan boys? I mean honestly, I like this game for the most part but it's obviously going to bomb since its online portion only works about half of the time due to its inexcusable lag. Even the offline players are going to get sick of dip [censored] AI team mates, Brink isn't even close to worthy of a a $60 price tag. There's no reason not to add a variant of TDM of some sort, hell make something new out of it.
http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Arena

This is to the developers directly,

Everybody seems to copy COD for a reason, they are the best ( I am ready for the flaming). You can not deny that, the facts are there. Now that being said I AM SOOOOO BORD WITH COD. I have been playing COD for 10 years it feels like( since origional PC COD games). I was soooooo excited for Brink I talked to total strangers about it, and they thought I was crazy. With all that nonsense being said, Brink is just too different ( I think too half-a$$ed) then other games. PEOPLE LIKE TEAM DEATH MATCH. SCRATCH THAT, THE NEED TEAM DEATH MATCH. TDM is in every video game title EXCEPT BRINK....and there is a reason all games have the same game types...they work and are LOVED/NEEDED by multiplayer fans. Some of us are just too simple minded for objectives. Objectives, such as the ones in Brink, are boring after the 1st time they are completed. At the same time the objectives are too complex, and I mean complex by having 4 tasks at the same time yet only 1 really matters. I reasearched the HELL out of this game, and I am still very dissappointed. I am still telling everyone to buy it and all my friends think I love the game because I want people to buy the game so SD fixes it. But being a multiplayer focused game there are no lobbies to play with friends, no multiplayer only(no AI) game modes, and there really is only 1 game type....which is a total mash up of everything. PEOPLE LIKE GAME TYPES BECAUSE THAT IS THE GAME TYPE THEY WANT TO PLAY. NOBODY can say they play every game type in COD/HALO consistantly. Give people choices, don't force them into this AI/PEOPLE mix-up that ALMOST is amazing. I thought Brink was going to be about choices, yet I can not choose a game type I desire. I want real multiplayer, not this AI mix in crap. People buy games and continue to play for multiplay. Nobody plays single player for 2 years straight. You never know how someone is going to attack an objective in COD/HALO and thats what gets people to continue to play. Brink, even though it seems more complex, is essentially too simple. Giving every body 1 way of doing 4 different tasks may seem complex, but it is not. Giving 8 people 1 objective makes people FIGHT for it and get creative....even thought there all doing the same thing all the time. Who cares about running off all alone and holding X to capture something. THAT IS BORING AFTER 10 TIMES. Now, you do have what I and so many other desires in a game, but you have elaborated too much for 90% of earths videogame playing population.

You are getting biased followers like me posting here because we have this "HOPE" that your game will be everthing we were told it would be. So those people saying the game is great, they are lieing and they know it. Your game is almost great andCAN BE FIXED! PLEASE FIX IT! I love the concept, but how you are doing it just is not working.

We need options, which we were told we would have....yet it seems when I play Brink I am forced to play 1 way.

There are a million other things to say but I am at work and do not have time to say them all. I love the game and am going to continue to play, BUT SD told me this game would be so much more. And to that person who is going to tell me to do my research, you are just dum. I see you in every topic. You need to accept the game is not perfect and accept that people do not share your distorted view.

So if SD only changes 1 thing, make it to where I can get into a HUMAN PLAYER ONLY GAME....and with no lag on the XBOX 360.....I do not think that is too much to ask. AI if fun while you learn the game, but they really svck at completeing the games objectives!

I realize this is not a topic but more a comment but it is hard getting your comment to be heard by someone that can do something about it. I am not a hater I love Brink's potential, and I hope it is "fixed".

FLAME ON!!!