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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:21 am

Namely, a non-Numidium form of matter...

Imagine though if Numidium was so powerful it could keep retain its Myth Form even after being seemingly blasted out of existence, so hypothetically it would persist in other realities.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:07 am

Local rulers of High Rock, Hammerfell, and even Colovia with a grudge against the Empire. Kings, Queens, and Counts whose rebellious fire can be stoked.

And why on earth would the Dunmer side with the Thalmor? They have very little in common.

Indeed. The Velothi LEFT because they disagreed with the religious views the Thalmor embody. They have nothing religiously in common with them (besides a bit of a sense of arrogance).
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:20 am

In response the the OP, I didn't see anything in the book about territorial concessions other than the south of Hammerfell which was reclaimed by the Redguards. I think it's safe to assume that all captured territory was returned upon the signing of the peace treaty. IRL, most wars are like this (with exceptions). Each side has number of war aims it would like to achieve and if achieved and a favorable treaty signed, all other captured territory is returned, status quo antebellum.

Regarding your map, the rest of Cyrodiil should be under Imperial control, and Elsweyr should be independent as it is stated that it is only allied with, not a member of the Aldmeri dominion. There is also the possibility that the islands off southern Hammerfell are still under Aldmeri control. It seems likely to me, but not confirmed from what I've read. I'm going off the assumption regarding the islands that they have naval superiority.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:06 am

Regarding your map, the rest of Cyrodiil should be under Imperial control, and Elsweyr should be independent as it is stated that it is only allied with, not a member of the Aldmeri dominion. There is also the possibility that the islands off southern Hammerfell are still under Aldmeri control. It seems likely to me, but not confirmed from what I've read.

Actually, no. Hammerfell was kicked out of the Empire when they refused to sign the Concordat. Anequina and Pelletine are "client states," i.e. under the control of the Dominion, not an independent allies.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:55 am

Actually, no. Hammerfell was kicked out of the Empire when they refused to sign the Concordat. Anequina and Pelletine are "client states," i.e. under the control of the Dominion, not an independent allies.

I'm crossing my fingers for Redguard 2: Electric HoonDing Boogaloo.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:36 am

What would happen to Talos if people stopped worshipping him?
What I understood from this whole lore thing is that everything is based on belief no? Isn't this how Akatosh and Alduin were created? (or how they became the other two 'faces' of Auriel?)

Would Talos loose his godhood or something?
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:38 am

Actually, no. Hammerfell was kicked out of the Empire when they refused to sign the Concordat. Anequina and Pelletine are "client states," i.e. under the control of the Dominion, not an independent allies.


I knew about Hammerfell not being part of the empire anymore, I just didn't implicitly mention it. But it was never stated whether the islands (which we can assume were captured too) would have been returned to Hammerfell. And regarding Elsweyr, I forgot about that part so thanks for reminding me.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:59 am

Could'a sworn you said Hammerfell is still part of the Empire :wacko: I guess my reading comprehension failed me there (or you edited as I responded).
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:35 am

Anyone else think they changed Summerset Isle to Alinor because Alinor looks better on a box cover?
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:03 pm

Hadn't thought of that, but it's bloody brilliant. I'd much rather see the Isles than any province at the moment.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:32 am

Anyone else think they changed Summerset Isle to Alinor because Alinor looks better on a box cover?

I endorse this idea! Elder Scrolls VI : Alinor
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:44 am

I endorse this idea! Elder Scrolls VI : Alinor


TES VI can't be in Alinor, because if the player chooses any race but Altmer or Bosmer, they will be killed on sight. Kind of hard to play a game where every sentient creature in the gameworld wants you dead. It would be even worse if you could play as a human and the game just pretended that no one in Alinor realizes that they're supposed to be lynching you. I would love to play in Alinor as an expanded adventure game, however, it will never work as a full game because people would [censored] about not being able to play as a nord or whatever.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:44 am

Therefore Hammerfell or Elsweyr is what we should expect for TES VI. Deserts aint THAT hard to make, graphically, unlike a big bloody forest and a big bloody jungle full of Hist-controlled Argonians.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:05 am

TES VI: Lizard Hunter.

..Please?
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:13 am

Therefore Hammerfell or Elsweyr is what we should expect for TES VI. Deserts aint THAT hard to make, graphically, unlike a big bloody forest and a big bloody jungle full of Hist-controlled Argonians.


Another point is to make is that non-argonians can't really survive in Argonia. Which kind of rules out that province as well.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:04 pm

TES VI can't be in Alinor, because if the player chooses any race but Altmer or Bosmer, they will be killed on sight. Kind of hard to play a game where every sentient creature in the gameworld wants you dead. It would be even worse if you could play as a human and the game just pretended that no one in Alinor realizes that they're supposed to be lynching you. I would love to play in Alinor as an expanded adventure game, however, it will never work as a full game because people would [censored] about not being able to play as a nord or whatever.


It's not like they can't jump forward 20 years and say that the political landscape has changed a bit. The canon Skyrim ending could be the Empire gaining back some steam, and maybe TES6 could be about them trying to take back Summerset. No one really knows.

I'm not saying TES6 is probably going to be set there, but I don't think your reason really excludes the possibility.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:40 am

TES VI can't be in Alinor, because if the player chooses any race but Altmer or Bosmer, they will be killed on sight. Kind of hard to play a game where every sentient creature in the gameworld wants you dead. It would be even worse if you could play as a human and the game just pretended that no one in Alinor realizes that they're supposed to be lynching you. I would love to play in Alinor as an expanded adventure game, however, it will never work as a full game because people would [censored] about not being able to play as a nord or whatever.

Bethesda is not averse to creating their own reason for a game to be set wherever the blazes they want it.

Maybe we begin as a slave, and there's an uprising. There are dissidents among the Altmer, who knows what agencies they would employ... Alinor may bend to the Empire of Man. Or perhaps Thras encroaches, and Alinor summons the "All Flags." Maybe the Maomer take Alinor and pose a wider threat to the Empire of Man. Anything is possible. We were argonians in the most xenophobic province, why not again?

Another point is to make is that non-argonians can't really survive in Argonia. Which kind of rules out that province as well.

It's only the deepest region of Argonia which is inhospitable, and that would make the small province a bit more like Vvardenfell, with the huge mountain we needed to walk around.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:27 am

Regarding the Legion/Stormcloak quest lines, how are they going to handle it in future games? A dragon break? Or have some chain of event afterwards that makes either choice irrelevant?
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:12 am

Regarding the Legion/Stormcloak quest lines, how are they going to handle it in future games? A dragon break? Or have some chain of event afterwards that makes either choice irrelevant?

I'm guessing it'll be a dragon break, since
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There's one time when you directly have a dragon break - when you use the elderscroll to travel back in time, so we know they're not shying away from the concept.

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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:21 am

Bethesda is not averse to creating their own reason for a game to be set wherever the blazes they want it.

Maybe we begin as a slave, and there's an uprising. There are dissidents among the Altmer, who knows what agencies they would employ... Alinor may bend to the Empire of Man. Or perhaps Thras encroaches, and Alinor summons the "All Flags." Maybe the Maomer take Alinor and pose a wider threat to the Empire of Man. Anything is possible. We were argonians in the most xenophobic province, why not again?


It's only the deepest region of Argonia which is inhospitable, and that would make the small province a bit more like Vvardenfell, with the huge mountain we needed to walk around.


The Altmer don't have human slaves.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:04 am

The Altmer don't have human slaves.

True. I believe they use(d) goblins. TES VI's new playable race will be goblins!
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:22 pm

The Altmer don't have human slaves.


You're still dodging the main point, which is that if Bethesda want to do the next game in Alinor they will construct the story needed to do so. They would not just say "oh well, no Imperials in Alinor so we're screwed."
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:31 am

Could'a sworn you said Hammerfell is still part of the Empire :wacko: I guess my reading comprehension failed me there (or you edited as I responded).

Hammerfell is still part of the Empire in HEART.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:01 am

Or: The Thalmor turns to [censored] by the time we get to "Alinor". Perhaps they lose a Second Great War, or lose support over time. The Thalmor staying in charge forever is boring, I think.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:21 am

Or: The Thalmor turns to [censored] by the time we get to "Alinor". Perhaps they lose a Second Great War, or lose support over time. The Thalmor staying in charge forever is boring, I think.


They've sewn the seeds of the empire being kind of... morally questionable... in Skyrim already. It would be neat to have a TES set in Alinor when a revived Empire was invading to take it back. You could have a similar setup to Skyrim with Imperial forces in the East and Thalmor forces in the West. All races could travel the whole island but you would be watched closely as an elf in the East or a human in the West.

Or they could finally do the Sload and have the Thalmor open the borders to protect the land, as someone else hinted at. Then you could have Sload territory on the West side, which would be great to explore.
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