Do you think Bethesda is going to kill off the Empire?

Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:40 am

That's true, and it may be a reason I've stayed with these games all these years! Look at the typical Main quest, boiled down to one idea: Low-down Prisoner is the only one who can save the world from a villain so dangerous that he doesn't make an appearance until the last act, when the Hero is ready. :smile:
To be fair, Alduin is there all the time. While you're playing, you can see him
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resurrecting dragons from burial mounds
if you're lucky.

Since Oblivion gates, it's been clear that they're trying to impose a greater sense of peril.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:07 pm

I have a feeling it will crumble and fall to the Thalmor, and that sort, then Bethesda might make a game where you can go anywhere in Tamriel and the main quest is about taking down the Thalmor and rebuilding the Empire once again... Until then, they are prolly gonna give each province their own game first and within each of these games, we will watch the Empire fall and the succeeding of the Thalmor.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 8:40 am

I have a feeling it will crumble and fall to the Thalmor, and that sort, then Bethesda might make a game where you can go anywhere in Tamriel and the main quest is about taking down the Thalmor and rebuilding the Empire once again... Until then, they are prolly gonna give each province their own game first and within each of these games, we will watch the Empire fall and the succeeding of the Thalmor.

I highly doubt Bethesda will do another game that lets you travel across Tamriel, its just not possible for console which they are aiming to have a market in.

I'm telling you, there is no way the empire will fall, it'll get back on its feet soon enough and I still highly doubt the stormcloak will win, the most likely idea is a permanent cease fire with hostile tensions towards between the stormcloaks and the imperials.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:17 am

The empire wont crumble up and wther away if they lose skyrim, hell theres probley a good chance at a truce of some sort between them. Skyrim could be an ally instead of an enemy. Stranger things have happened. Skyrim gets a hands off approach, have the army come to their def as they would be expected to aid their Allys, could be charged a whatever fee to travel across the country but when in skyrim they under skyrim rules yo be allowed to go back and forth. Theres alot of things that could happen to make it work.
Tbh I dont think the stormcloaks see the empire as the main enemy, its more along the lines that the empkre has their hands on everything and not letting them rule themselves as well as dealing with the thalmor and whatnot. You have the empire reconize ulfric as high king and their own provendence, I think we be surprised at how well both sides after they got over the mistrust of each other be able to get along and scratch each others back.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:21 pm

The empire wont crumble up and wther away if they lose skyrim, hell theres probley a good chance at a truce of some sort between them. Skyrim could be an ally instead of an enemy. Stranger things have happened. Skyrim gets a hands off approach, have the army come to their def as they would be expected to aid their Allys, could be charged a whatever fee to travel across the country but when in skyrim they under skyrim rules yo be allowed to go back and forth. Theres alot of things that could happen to make it work.
Tbh I dont think the stormcloaks see the empire as the main enemy, its more along the lines that the empkre has their hands on everything and not letting them rule themselves as well as dealing with the thalmor and whatnot. You have the empire reconize ulfric as high king and their own provendence, I think we be surprised at how well both sides after they got over the mistrust of each other be able to get along and scratch each others back.

Skyrim is a province, I think you mean an Independent state like hammerfell, but thank you for agreeing with me. The empire of tamriel will fall but a new cyrodiilic emperor will raise up and spread peace throughout Tamriel, whereas the Thalmor bring nothing but death, misery and suffering towards anyone who isn't a Thalmor, even regular altmer who aren't mages get harassed by the Thalmor.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:39 pm

I highly doubt Bethesda will do another game that lets you travel across Tamriel, its just not possible for console which they are aiming to have a market in.

You do know they created the whole map of Tamriel for Oblivion and Skyrim, right? The other 9 provinces you aren't in are just background and if you can glitch out of the game, you can seriously travel around their wildernesses and all. Only thing they didn't add was towns, quests, and places.. Basicly..

If they do a "Tamriel" game then it will most likely be on like 5 different discs with one being the main and the other 4 will have to be installed onto the hard drive... So... yeah.. The Xbox 360 and PS3 will surely run a Tamriel game.. It'll just take longer for it to load up to the main menu.. From there, it would be just fine.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:04 pm

I dont think its the landscape that consoles cant handle, its all the grass trees npcs etc and the save data it cant handle. PCs could handle it Withe saved data part but would problemly have the countrys invisibled walled off and seperated from each other in the scripts of things.

Btw could u imagine having followers or npcs get glitched out and u literally would have to search entire countrys for them lmao.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:33 am

Btw could u imagine having followers or npcs get glitched out and u literally would have to search entire countrys for them lmao.

Just avoid them glitches. I never had anything like that happened to me in Skyrim Oblivion or Morrowind.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:51 am

Well the rumored TES mmo takes place before the empire so I think it's a test if they prefer no empire but warring clans. And as the Devine Crusader I demand Justice! the Thalmore dare claim Talos(the only thing that allowed me to survive Umarill) not a god!

Just saw this, its before the THIRD empire, it takes place during the SECOND empire, thus still a cyrodiilic empire.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:48 pm

You do know they created the whole map of Tamriel for Oblivion and Skyrim, right?
Not the same thing. What you're referring to is LOD terrain. It is not the detailed terrain our characters inhabit. And the LOD in Skyrim is even more primitive than the LOD in Oblivion was. It is not even usable for mods.

But I agree with your basic point. Most of the data that is loaded into RAM at any given moment is data that concerns the five cells immediately surrounding the player character. The data for things outside that five-cell radius is mostly low-tech LOD data. No matter how large the game world is the engine is only going to load detailed information about the five cells immediately around our characters. As you say, a larger game world will mainly affect initial loading times.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:26 am

Thats nice and very interesting. I forgot about tje cell thing. Im still saying saved data would problemly still ne a problem maybe but damn I didnt think it was doable. Nice.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:13 am

I always did think it would be a really interesting storyline if the Empire was destroyed and you'd have to bring it back somehow.

Edit: Or choose not to, of course.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:33 pm

I hope they don't I think they may re-invent them. I think they may become more medieval Knight looking as seen more in Colovian Cyrodiil and the Greco-Roman look will be the ancient / former empire / ceremonial dress. I think they were trying to steer it this way in Oblivion but many fans moaned that they preferred the Roman army look as seen in Morrowind.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:54 am

I'd rather Tamriel be carved into city states. Not states, but rather content but warring cities; This would implement a good political story to be potentially played, with massive cities the size of Assassin's Creed's cities. Economy could play an equally important tool here, and a port city would prosper, whilst an inland city, which has lost parts of land to neighbours, starves; hence, a dynamic, political map would dominate choices. Armies should be massive, and real time; joining the militia of a city in the defence of a border town is something I yearn to play.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 11:21 am

The Old Empired died with Martin Septim. Its remnants are but shadows of what it once was.

The Dragonborn might as well be Tiber Septim reborn, and as such a new Empire could be built under him/her.

Just my opinion of where I think they'll take the Skyrim story through DLC/Expansions...
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:54 am

i see the Empire perhaps gong in the direction of something like the 3 Kingdoms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_of_the_Three_Kingdoms) and three states (Greater Argonia, Alinor, and the Empire) strive to restore the Dragon Throne. I just think it would fit the set up, plus it's kind of interesting.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:00 am

> Alinor trying to help restore the Dragon Throne

....Have you not been paying attention to the Thalmor and their racism and hatred towards non-altmer?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:28 am

All good things....

The Empire died when Martin Septim sacrificed himself. It may take hundreds of years to be fully realized, but it's happening. I would like to see power shift back to the provinces. Increased racial tensions and power grabs could set up an interesting world in future TES games.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:12 pm

> Alinor trying to help restore the Dragon Throne

....Have you not been paying attention to the Thalmor and their racism and hatred towards non-altmer?

Well, ok they all want to rule Tamriel. It was a stupid choice of words.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:56 am

The empire might certainly be shrunk back into cyrodiil, but it's most likely not going to be completely eliminated.
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