And the great thing is you haven't to play further after the ending slides, people that want can do their meaningless stuff while you are satisfied too. Thats why I think the FO2 solution would be the best for all different factions.

Sure with a ending like FO3 had it simply wasn't possible after the payers death.

Fallout 2? Which tradition? If ending slides are meant, yes they where missed a lot in FO3.

How? if YOU choose to not play post the ending, nothing would be different than if the game didnt even give you an option.

I don't think Beth's going to be able to win with this issue, go one way and we complain, go another way and we complain.

That's not to say that the ending written in Broken Steel was fantastic. What I meant by that statement was that with Fallout 3, many people were unhappy with the fact that the main quest ended the game. It would be unlikely that Bethesda would repeat the same process knowing that there was, historically, a negative response in regards to it.

If they will take into account the consequences of our main quest then yes, if they just throw us into the world prior to the last main quest mission like the Witcher 3 did, then no.

In the Witcher 3 i got the ending where

The way to win here is to go down the path that Far Cry 3 gave us. A proper "ending" with the ability to continue a non-canon playthrough afterwards.

^{yes t will be open ended}

That doesn't matter, because at that point it's clear the developer intended you to play afterwards, which misconstrues the validity and meaningfulness of the ending.

Todd Howard said he was wrong. He admitted they didn't think the ending through in the first place, and it was rushed.

There was no "artistic vision" here anyway. You sound like one of those Bioware "artistic integrity" folks. Guess what, they were wrong too.

That is going to be with almost everything they will do not just in Fallout 4 but with the next TES game as well.

That's the issue: The way Bethesda carried it out with Fallout 3 gives me little hope they'll improve the writing this time around haha.

Bioware failed the endings to begin with by creating 3 choices that obliterated any decisions you made beforehand, then messed up the situation even more by actually trying to change the endings after the fact.

And the way you've been writing, I don't see why you of all people would have faith in Todd Howard to get an open ended ending right this time if he failed so hard last time around.

I posted that because every bit of information revealed by the trailer so far correlates to what was written on the post. As of now, nothing on that post has been proven false. If that day comes, you can catch my lie but until then that point stands.

I'm gonna give Beth the benefit of the doubt, we don't know who the lead writer is yet. I'm not gonna throw them under the bus with no footage and no gameplay preview reports from media people.

Who said I had any faith? What I said was, FO3's ending was badly done, and Todd Howard admitted it was badly done, and to an extent he and his team did fix it.

So FO4 has the benefit of the doubt going for it at least.

To me, admitting you have messed up is worth a lot, that's why I hold Bethesda in higher regard than Bioware, who rarely admit when they mess up.

I hope it is, when i play NV now, i don't go past the point of no return and choose a faction now, after completing it a couple of times i prefer the open sandbox type of world , rather than reach the actual game end.

Yes, I agree that they now have the benefit of the doubt. But no, Broken Steel in no way "fixed" the issue. You can't stick diamonds on you know what and call it beautiful.

In New Vegas I was just able to take the conveinent "out" of the MQ by just going back to wandering after dealing with that Benny business. I don't think thats a good solution though, since it makes the whole central conflict of the game be put in stasis. Its 2282 in Alexander's game, and The Legion still hasnt even put more soldiers on the other side of the Colorado to replace the men they lost when I laid waste to all of their camps.

Im sure there'd be a RP-friendly way to ignore my dislike for the ending if it did turn out the NV way, but generally I would rather live with the consequences of my decisions instead of being told by a narrator about how everything happened years after I stopped doing things in the world for some reason. In New Vegas there were already plans to have post-ending content, you can find the remains of it in cut content with help from FNVEdit and the GECK, it just had to be cut for time. Obviously time is not a problem with Fallout 4, so hopefully we are shown, and not told.

Wow, you really couldn't use spoiler tags?

dude...not cool...

You mean, a pointless sacrifice of entering into a radiation chamber that could be easily averted by the ROBOT, the GHOUL or the SUPER MUTANT you could be taking with you?

Here is your confirmation that it will be, spoken by Todd Howard himself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvAzPQBrKOc&t=10m38s

"...but we since corrected that, we're not gonna do that again"