Of course 4 is more then 3

I don't think you should be that concerned with review scores, or even reviews themselves. No doubt they can be something to consider in determining the purchase of the product, but they're just mere opinions. No different or better from yours or mine just because they appear on some article for a popular gaming website (although an informed opinion is always nice, and not all opinions from reviewers turn out informed). There have been many games whose mainstream reviews do not favor it well, yet are well received by the general audience.

Now, I think we already know it's inevitable that Fallout 4 will be critically acclaimed, but you shouldn't care that much about a meager review score. Regardless of what the numbers turn out to be.

Hard to say. Witcher 3 was a phenomenal game and might steal Game of the Year away from Fallout 4. I wouldn't be surprised. It wasn't perfect, but it was certainly one of the better games I've played in the last decade or so.

I imagine I'll enjoy Fallout 4 more, so from a subjective standpoint, yeah. It'll likely top Witcher 3 for me. I view Witcher 3 as less of a Role Playing Game and more of an Action Adventure with RPG mechanics whereas I've viewed Bethesda's RPG entries as an ideal model for a Role Playing experience.

Witcher 3's gameplay required players to utilize several aspects of it, resulting in a deep and rewarding experience. The narrative was compelling with characters that were well developed, interesting, and realistic. The visuals were superb. Based on what I've seen, the gameplay for Fallout 4 looks stellar; truly amazing. The dialogue and writing is something I'm a little worried about, but we'll see. As for visuals, one has to take into account that Fallout 4 has a much larger scope than Witcher 3 does despite having a smaller world; what with every everything not being a single static mesh that lacks physical properties. Plus, the Creation/Gamebryo Engine, love it or hate it, has proven to have the versatility to stay relevant even decades after a game's release due largely in part to the modding community. Skyrim can still look industry leading with the right mods. I have no doubt Fallout 4 will reach that same level.

Will Fallout 4 top Witcher 3? I'd say it depends on what you're looking for out of a game. Both of them seem to be Game of the Year contenders, without a doubt. But I'm not sure if I could point to one and say, "this is the better product."

All that is available is a video that doesn't give much info and CD Projekt stating that they will start on it after Witcher 3 is done.

Thanks for the info, I'll be watching for it in the future.

Personally i think the two of them can't be compared to each other.

The witcher 3 is an open world RPG, but strongly attached to the main story, the characters an each event in game are deeply designed.

Also it is Light fantasy, a medieval theme with influence from eastern europe.

Fallout series are open world, with a lote of player liberty, yes there is a main story, bu the player is encouraged to take the side way, there are key characters, but not so devlopped

Also it is on one side a light RPG(except SPECIAL and perks system)

And it is a Post apocalyptic theme

It kinda already has for me... I couldn't even finish TW3 due to excitement for Fallout 4. Hopefully I can get back to it later.

Yes i do, but i admit, i'm biased anyway.

I loved the Witcher 3, but I got about half way and ended up just not playing anymore. I dont see that happening with Fallout 4 at all. The Witcher 3 is still a great game and def runner up for Goty.

Depends if Beth release patches that totally stuff the game.

I enjoyed W3, but man, CDPR have made an absolute hash of the patches.

grand theft auto games are open world but still nothing like the fallout games. its not even apples and oranges imo. theyre not even both fruit.

Yes I think it will. Fallout is a much easier universe to ease yourself into compared to the Witcher. Also, and in the face of Skyrim's success no less, I feel like we are still in the "post-apocalyptic era" of media and the Fallout setting is more palatable to a wider audience than the high fantasy of the Witcher. Finally, both games are built around giving you a lot to experience, but Bethesda games make the brilliant decision to make you the focus of all those things. The Witcher had a lot of political intrigue and other moving parts to track, but with the way the intro is being structured, Fallout 4 is throwing you into this crazy new post-apocalyptic future with really no knowledge. Everything is there for you to experience and figure out without necessarily having the burden of prior knowledge. You can own your noob-ness I guess.

I guess I just think a game that lets you make a character and experience a world will always be more successful than a game that is allowing you to experience a story, even if that story is laced with choices and incredibly engrossing. Who knows how good Fallout 4's story will be as well? As a final remark, I think Bethesda has a lot of good will behind their name. All someone has to do is say "they made Skyrim" and they will draw a lot of people through word of mouth. I think their marketing strategy is going to pay huge dividends as well, as all the secrecy is going to serve to allow their game to just speak for itself. In a time when most games are over-hyped and then fall waaaaaaaay short, I think that alone will propel Fallout 4 into the stratosphere.

This.

Witcher 3 is very story driven, so even if you play again to see the consequences of diferent decisions, the game feels the same. Dont get me wrong, I think witcher 3 is one of the best RPG of all time and had a blast playing it. Some of the quests are amazingly written and the graphics are gorgeous.

I think most GOTY awards will go to Witcher 3, because I expect Fallout 4 to be kind of buggy for a few months (like most Bethesda's games). But Im confident that Fallout 4 will become the best game of the two eventually.

the Witcher? Most likely. The problem is will it top Skyrim?

Ehh so much is wrong with this...

First, just being an open world RPG dosent mean the two can be compared.

Second, the Witcher 3 got a 94 Metacritic score so I don't know what the F#&K you're talking about. http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt

If you're asking if Fallout 4 will recieve a better score than 94, its possible.

If the only Vault in Fallout 4 was Vault 111 there would be riots in the streets.... OF COURSE there will be more vaults lol

[edit: TW3 actually got a 94 on pc and a 92 on PS4, corrected score. and link]

I'm going to laugh hysterically if it gets a worse review because i know you'll be infuriated, and I'll also be happy as a clam if Fallout 4 beats TW3 Because I love both titles equally Its a win-win for me

That Fallout 4 should get 10/10 is (for me at least) a no brainer. I just think it's weird people knew beforehand that Skyrim were going to get the highest points even before release (which it also did) but it's an uncertainty with Fallout 4. I don't get it, do TES have a higher fanbase? I mean I got just as happy when Fallout 4 was announced as I got with Skyrim. But I'll guess people outside the bethesda-fangroup likes swords over laser rifles.

Well I am just speculating.

I almost exactly think the same. I liked Witcher games very much, and I think Witcher is better when it comes to story, graphics and ( not to forget ) animations ( just see how the witcher climbs over fences etc ). Whats IMHO better too are the NPCs - they feel more alive and more real in the witcher games. But in the end, I play them only once or twice, Skyrim and New Vegas however I play again and again after month or even years. Just alone added content by mods increase replay value a lot. And you can create your own character ( and each time a different one ), something I missed at the witcher games

FO4 review scores will most definitely be lower due to:

- worse graphics overall

- coming out later

That's assuming everything will be the same but I highly doubt that FO4's Bioware-lifted conversation system will receive any praises. It'll prevent from having an in-depth, proper conversation. Which means a serious challenge to decent storytelling in an RPG. I'm afraid it might receive a below-90 on Metacritic like FO3 did.

And don't get me wrong, I dislike Witcher series and adore Fallout and Bethesda games. But it'll be a surprise to me if FO4 beats W3 Metacritic with the leaks I'm hearing.

I don't think i've ever seen a reviewer care about graphics in a Bethesda game in any significant way.

Its basically an understood at this point that a Bethesda game, where each building can have hundreds, if not thousands, of physics enabled movable objects, is going to have worse graphics then 90% of the market, which doesn't have all that stuff, and thus can spend more CPU and GPU on pure graphics power.

Different times. In the old times, all competitors had isometric view. Then, corridor RPGs. After Skyrim's success though, Bioware and CDP hopped on the open-world bandwagon. So while Bethesda had no true peer and competition, they now have multiple. Any reviewer might easily compare the game to DAI or W3, that's what I'm saying. Reviewers can be highly subjective if the difference becomes glaring and the game rubs them the wrong way. It's not a matter of right or wrong but how it goes.

I haven't played either, but F4 will have worse story, mechanics and reactivity, so it should score worse with reviewers who can get past the "Ooh! Shiny!" phase, which won't be many, since with Skyrim it lasted 60 hours for me

So, yes, it will

I don't care. This isn't a competition. We can like both games and buy both games and play both games.

Except Witcher 3 and DAI play and are designed NOTHING like a Bethesda game.

Witcher 3 is closer to GTA in world style then it is a TES game.

Let's hope that they see it that way.

These are the same people who just made Undertale "the best PC game ever" just a couple of weeks ago so I'm not having high hopes.

BTW I'm talking about Metacritic scores here, not my own personal opinion. Since OP mentioned reviews. W3 already has the same reviewer score (94) and a much higher user score (9.2 to 8.0) compared to Skyrim. It'll be a monumental challenge to have FO4 get ahead of those since the highest a PC game ever got is 96. I just don't see FO4 equipped enough for the task based on the info we have.

HOW?

Well, at least Half-Life, Half Life 2, and the Orange box are stilll tied for highest rated PC game of all time, where they should be.