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Necromancers in Oblivion svcked. Half of them carried around scrolls for flare, which made no sense considering that they're supposed to be powerful wizards. Their whole story line was tedious and anti climatic. I would like to see some sort of school of dark magic in Skyrim, perhaps even a faction, but if it's necromancers then they need to rethink their style.

So you just ignore all the obvious design flaws the devs make and never critizise anything? Besides, the Mannimarco fight svcked from a gameplay perspective as well. He just spammed some paralyze spells and died soon after. Not a challenge I would expect from a "final boss". =|

No Mannimarco, no Umbra! Give us something new!

Didn't say anything about gameplay. Just talking about people who get way into the lore of the video game.

Speaking of Black Soul Gems and wicked cool Necromancy....... I can has Necromancy this time maybe?

I would like him to be in and I would like to join him; but not in a generic evil sort of way, just some neutral faction quests to influence the Nordic war and/or buy corpses would be nice.

I just hope that if he is in he looks terrifying. Nothing like oblivions. and maybe they can make him have a spell that reanimates others and actually make his staff a deadly weapon.

man that guy was so lame, hope they "fix" it this time with an awesome uber lich like guy or something.

man that king of worms looks so bad-ass and the setting is better,
honestly a lame cave!!! that's what they gave us in vanilla OB.
the mod had a better setting, and a better bad guy.

I completely agree about both of your post. I want to verse an awesome UNIQUE lich guy!

Nope, it was just the way how I thought Mannimarco should have looked like. So I tried to put a more interesting encounter together for the end of the mages guild questline with a more interesting opponent. The comic listed above was also one of my main reference points when designing http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14200.

At any rate, I wouldn't mind seeing more of Mannimarco but I don't think we'll see much focus on that aspect in TES5

oh wow I just realized that you made that awesome mod. good job by the way.

Yeah, this was something I was wondering about as well. I mean, just reading "Touch of the Worm King" would make any Arch-mage on any level [censored] themelves, so the antic-climatic High Elf was pretty lame. While I understand why some people wouldn't like an appearance two games in a row, think of it this way: It's been 200 freiking years, the Empire is on it's last legs, and the Dragons are returning to eat the world. Can anyone think of a better time for him to have a second go at domination?

Will Mannimarco be in TES5? Yeah, he's still the Necromancer's Moon. However, the bigger question that needs to be asked is, will Mannimarco, the KING of worms, return? You can't just remove the GOD of worms, as he now orbits Arkay.

I vote an Epic Dark wizard. Not just a Necromancer. But an EVIL LORD. Master of all skills, but no stupid "here's his weakness, put this on, and you can't be hurt by him" bullcrap. I want a battle that lasts a long time.

Not a mythic dawn prosttute. Almost an exact representation of one of the dancing girls in his lair in Daggerfall.

Sure, but as a guy who doesn't know a lot about the lore, I think they could have handled it better. Make him stand out of the other generic necromancer NPC's.

I was disappointed with Oblivion's Mannimarco. I'm sure he'll be referenced in Skyrim, even if you don't actually have any face-to-face interaction with him.

you should have a few fights against him one were you barely survive it should be a random attack at city your visiting (scripted parts of course and no quests in the city as...well it's meant to burn) you wake up as an armored knight stands over you ect and so on, second when you and a host catch him off gaurd he manages to kill many of your friends but right before the fatal blow he escapes.

Then the final 1v1 you and a group of tuff guys storm his cave/fort whatever then it's just you and him should last a good 10 minutes during the fight you throw a spell at him and he at your (scripted part) and he at you they connect things explode the floor of dead bodies disappear and you fall land in water get back up and continue. idk something on the Nehrim lvl of epic things.

I see the Mannimarco revisited mod has been referenced a few times. I'd only want Mannimarco back if he looks like a real necromancer lord like in that mod and isn't such an anticlimix. Not the elven pansy he was in vanilla OB.



Whoa really? That mod was from you?

I have much (more) respect for you Miltiades :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Hey, I know this topic's a little older now, but check http://www.imperial-library.info/content/mannimarco out. To sum up the signifigance of it, according to the Imperial Library, after Mannimarco ascended, Arkay bascially [censored] slapped him back to Nirn, but his physical being there (The necromancer's moon) remainded. So, according to this then, that actually was Mannimarco and he is truly dead. However, there is no scource pointed to this, and I haven't been able to find information like this anywhere else. Could someone verify this?

Still doesn't make sense; the individual you fight in Oblivion has no similarities to the King of Worms.

Considering that the actual KoW was powerful enough in life to match Galerion, and literally breathed death, there's no way that "Mannimarco" was the King of Worms unless being cast back to the mortal realm also reversed his lichdom, and made him into a complete moron to boot.

The only real way for Bethesda to repair it at this point would be to reference that an imposter was killed, or reference some more recent activities of the King of Worms.

Gotta agree there; though it would also make sense that much of his power was lost with his divinity; though I'd just prefer that the Elf was just something like an avatar or something, and that the library is incorrect. I like the idea of Mannimarco being powerful enough to chill with the divines. And it's not like having mortals ascend to divinity is that revolutionary: After all, Tiber Septim became Akatosh. So why can't Mannimarco just chill in god-dom? Personally, I'd take Mannimarco over Arkay in a fight anyways .

EDIT: Just double checked the article, Akatosh [censored] slapped him, not Arkay. Still, Mannimarco could take both of them in a fight.

EDIT 2: Also, you have to count in the fact that Traven did in fact help. Though I still doubt that Traven's soul would weaken Mannimarco to the extent that he appeared in Oblivion.

I remember that speech the Kajiit gave me, the one from the mages guild in Bruma.

I was so pumped for the final battle. And then... meh.

His voice was the first disappointing thing. That lame ass voice. Then the fight consisted of me tossing two wizards wrath spells at him. I admit I was at a pretty high level and my magical skills were pretty powerful but it shouldn't have been so insanely easy.