So do you think we'll see Hellfire armor return ?

Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:48 am

I hope so, maybe we'll see it as an X-01mkII modification variant or as the X-02 or something?

Let me know what you think PA fans.

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Genocidal Cry
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:56 pm

Personally I love the PA from Fallout Tactics get a 3D take.
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sarah
 
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:22 am

You mean the one that looks more in-place in WH40K?

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:45 am


you make it sound like thats a bad thing :P
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Markie Mark
 
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:56 am


:lmao:

Anyway, it was pretty cool looking. Apart from the hippo helmet :teehee:
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:14 pm

Link to the Fallout Tactics hippo armour?

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:11 am

It was also out of place for FOverse styling. This is raygun gothic, not 90s punk.

What I also roll my eyes over is how it was refined more for Fallout styling in the FO3 Enclave armor and it's derided. I think I know why too...

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:59 pm


http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/6/61/Ft_power_armor.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110120184205

dont see the hippo comment myself
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:44 pm

I'm glad hippos don't look like that in real life.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:24 am

The one whose helmet resembled a hog? I hope Beth makes slight adjustments to its appearance if it returns in Fallout 4.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:21 am


sorry cant hear your over the rule of cool.
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:01 am

They already did, partly: Compare the helm to the Enclave Power Armor in FO3.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:46 pm

Now I can't stop imagining someone wearing a power armor yelling "FOR THE EMPEROR! PURGE THE UNCLEAN!" while firing a submachine gun at a band of Super Mutants...

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:42 pm

As someone who actually liked the Fallout 3 Enclave armor designs, I have a feeling I'm going to be disappointed when they've been replaced/retconned by the Insectoid variant.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:03 pm

You mean the superior variant :hubbahubba: .

I'm so glad they've brought it back but, in-fairness, Hellfire Armour was the least bad looking APA in Fallout 3.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:44 am

retconned? you mean when they actually bring back the original version? That isnt a retcon, it is a repair of a retcon

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:06 pm

Well I have to say I do like how it looks in Fallout 2. Looks badass http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/e/e9/Fo2_EC_Company.png/revision/latest?cb=20090526204021. Just not http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101101005357/fallout/images/archive/1/12/20110224230905!RemnantsPowerArmor.png....

Fully rendered it just looks kind of dorky. Like someone's wearing a suit of armor that's two sizes too big for them or something. :tongue:

Maybe I'll like it more in Fallout 4, just have to see.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:39 pm

Hellfire Armor is my favorite of all PA, including -and mentioning in honor- the great hippo helmet.

It totally depends on the story. If there's no reason for Hellfire Armor to appear, then it shouldn't. Gives the game it's own identity.

I'd have no problem with replacement but I agree with retconned.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:33 pm


I meant the Hellfire Armor's helmet: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/3/3a/Fo3_Hellfire_helmet.png/revision/latest?cb=20131201233451

Though, yes, "hog" might be more accurate :hehe:
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:58 am

I wanted to like the other FO3 Enclave armors but they were just so...ill-fitting on the human models. They clipped with themselves by just being worn...also the Tesla Armor had that nasty green discoloration on it as if it had been submerged in the ocean for too long

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:55 pm

I do agree it looked far more sinister in the old games, honestly the helmets have a Star Wars Storm Trooper vibe in the sprite form now I look at them.

Shouldn't those be the other way around then? I've always known F3 APA as dog-face armour anyway.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:38 am

I just didn't think that they were good models, I think that the Classic APA looked both intimidating as-well as being mostly practical - relatively anyway. In Fallout 3 though with the stupid shoulder horns sticking off and the little wings on the helmet it looked like it was purely designed to look "menacing" and just fell flat.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:21 am

I think you're misinterpreting where the retcon is occurring. The armor from Fallout 3 was designated Advanced Power Armor Mk II, an armor that already existed in Fallout 2, and had the "insectoid" appearance. I didn't mind the power armor in 3, but the Enclave helmets looked really stupid. I'd take the iconic APA over the new one any day. The overall figure is just so much more impressive than the ones in 3. If they made a tesla version, that would be even better. I always used Tesla Armor in 3 with a BoS helmet. If they have Tesla Armor and it gives an Energy Weapons boost, I would be so happy.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:43 pm

A retconn of a retconn is still a retconn. Nothing to "misinterpret" about it.

However, my assumption was that the MK II armor seen in Fallout 2 was a "first version" design. The key development in the APA MK II variant was the use of ceramic composites in the new design to give greater durability. Which Fallout 3 did not alter. The MK II seen in Fallout 2 may have been a "proof of concept" design using the aesthetics of the previous armor with the new armor composition before the final version of the armor was completed after the exodus to Raven Rock. Projects often go through many stages of prototypes and redesign before the finish product is produced. Perhaps the redesign seen in Fallout 3 was born out of some need unique to Raven Rock or the demands of the soldiery there.

Or, maybe the devs of Fallout 2 just reused a model rather than creating a completely new armor design for something that was just designated "MK II" and for a faction that they never intended to see again.....

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:48 pm


Someone called the F3 Enclave armor the Batsuit once. It stuck with me :happy:

And i think i misunderstood something there, what i meant to say is i prefer the F3 Enclave armor to the classic one, which may not have had nothing to do with anything :unsure:
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