Do you think Skyrim lived up to the hype? : V - Skyrim

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:36 pm

I had a few "wow" moments but must admit I was let down. I'm not blaming Bethesda though, I blame my own imagination - and the music!

The Skyrim theme is absolutely epic and I wanted to feel epic. I didn't however, I felt like I was rushed, handheld and and railroaded through a lot of quests.

Perhaps that's the mistake I made in approaching the game.

All in all, it's a great start of things to come, I really look forward to to TES VI. I just hope it lives up to its musical score ;-)

Then what did you imagined?

I LOVE every song in Skyrim, Jeremy Soule is awesome

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:11 am

Lore was crap
quests were crap
perks are too powerful
game is unbalanced

I don't remember them hyping it with balance or hyping it by saying perks are weak.. As for lore, it hasn't changed (nearly at all) since the last TES games.. And I think all quests except for two main guilds have been great.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:09 am

Then what did you imagined?

I LOVE every song in Skyrim, Jeremy Soule is awesome

Yes, you misunderstood me. The music is epic, the game didn't live up to it's soundtrack. But to be fair, how can you make a game that lives up to that? It inspires the imagination well beyond what our current technology is cappable of.

My fault really..

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:25 pm

Not at all. To be fair. Bethesda did an incredible job of over-hyping everyone. That was their goal. But they did not fulfill many of the things they alluded to and the Lore in the game is incomplete. The lore from the Novels and even how the Oblivion Crisis affected Skyrim is not even in game! We get little idea of what is going on around us and it utterly fails to make me give a crap about saving the world. Still have not beaten the main quest. This game is missing many features and the ones delivered are lack luster. Remember the economy system? HA! What a joke! Marriage? LMFAO!

Still they made one thing right. The world feels amazing. That was their biggest achievement imo.

Yeah, i agree about your points. The economy system ain't as deep as i thought it would, and marriage is just a joke. But those aside, wonderful game.

No.

Skyrim is extremely buggy, and once you get past the bugs you have a shallow RPG with almost zero character development and monotonous questing.

Hmm, define "monotonous questing"?. I think the quests are varied and interesting. And yeah, character development is kinda, hmm, "shallow", not really deep. Though it's nice that they aim to make the games more approachable.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:36 pm

I'm just curious, (again...lol) can you give one example of untrue statement or such?

A few off top of my head:

Dynamic snow drifts
Killing the mill means less arrows in the shops
In Game economy
Working at a mill means a more wealthy village = better gear = less prices ect.
They made out you could chop down trees.
Duel wielding magic was the shizz (its really not and doesnt serve as much a purpose as they made out)

And finally, the biggest lie of them all : New engine.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:59 pm

I think that it is impossible for a game to live up to its hype unless they purposely underhype it. I knew from the start that Skyrim would feel as mind-blowing as it seemed, so for me it didn't dissappoint.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:15 pm

I don't remember them hyping it with balance or hyping it by saying perks are weak.. As for lore, it hasn't changed (nearly at all) since the last TES games.. And I think all quests except for two main guilds have been great.

I think most of the books are copied from Oblivion (like the books in Oblivion were copied from Morrowind), but there's some interesting lore in there. And yeah, i don't remember anything about balance either
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» Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:07 pm

Nope, but then nothing ever does.

Creating so much hype just makes people disappointed with what they get in the end.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:02 pm

A few off top of my head:

Dynamic snow drifts
Killing the mill means less arrows in the shops
In Game economy
Working at a mill means a more wealthy village = better gear = less prices ect.
They made out you could chop down trees.
Duel wielding magic was the shizz (its really not and doesnt serve as much a purpose as they made out)

And finally, the biggest lie of them all : New engine.

Yeah, the dynamic snow is BS. But i'm pretty sure they never said you could chop down trees. They did state many times that they don't do very much deformable terrain

I remember when Todd showed the E3 demo, Hod said "bring me all the wood you can chop", and i think people misunderstood it. Correct me if i'm wrong though.

About the engine. I think it is to some extent "new", since i cannot notice any Gamebryo trademarks in it, aside from bugginess and general performance. But it might be just heavily modded Gamebryo, hard to tell. Animations look new, graphics are better, everything is basically turned up. Like i said, hard to tell.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:26 pm

Thank Goodness I don't own a television and would rather read a cereal box than the butchered prose over at IGN, I barely knew the game was coming out. I was excited when I found out and I have gotten my $60 worth already.

Is it OMG BEZT GAME EVERZ DYING FROM ZE FUNZ?
Nah. It's less immersive than the other ones but much more natural and logical in terms of game mechanics and play styles than the other ES games. In terms of play mechanics, as an un-modded game it blows Oblivion out of the water. It's pretty easy, but it's still fun.

Overall, I have no idea what the hype even was.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:29 pm

No. I'm still enjoying it though.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:19 am

has the game live up to expectations? its blown my balls off. and i can't stop playing it and can't stop thinking about it when i'm not playing it.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:58 pm

has the game live up to expectations? its blown my balls off. and i can't stop playing it and can't stop thinking about it when i'm not playing it.

Yeah me too, gonna have a nice weekend playing Skyrim

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:25 am

I never believe half the hype about anything. Kind of a rule of thumb. From movie critics, to advertisemants, press conferences. I absorb them for any interesting info, but I base my expectations on experience. If something exceeds those expectations, great, but that rarely happens. I figured that much of what they promised would not quite live up, but I don't care. The only thing that really annoyed me--even though they had made no promises--is that there's no mounted combat.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:50 pm

yes

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:50 pm

I read absolutely nothing about Skyrim before it came out, so I liked the game a lot.

People who build expectation based on pre-release hype are, in my opinion, fools, for they will inevitably be disappointed. Building up your own fantasy about something and then facing the cold hard reality means there is absolutely nothing that lives to its hype.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:22 am

I never believe half the hype about anything. Kind of a rule of thumb. From movie critics, to advertisemants, press conferences. I absorb them for any interesting info, but I base my expectations on experience. If something exceeds those expectations, great, but that rarely happens. I figured that much of what they promised would not quite live up, but I don't care. The only thing that really annoyed me--even though they had made no promises--is that there's no mounted combat.

Yeah, i too, never follow the hypetrain. I read reviews, but never base my opinions on them. I just pre-ordered Skyrim cause i knew i was gonna love it, which i do. And yeah, i don't get it: What was the idea of NOT having mounted combat?

Oh, maybe that's a DLC, like horse armor. lol

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:29 am

Yeah, i too, never follow the hypetrain. I read reviews, but never base my opinions on them. I just pre-ordered Skyrim cause i knew i was gonna love it, which i do. And yeah, i don't get it: What was the idea of NOT having mounted combat?

Oh, maybe that's a DLC, like horse armor. lol

lol. yeah probably. For $2.99

Though to be honest I'm wondering if the engine is even capable of it, in any real sense. The modders tried like hell for Oblivion, and had an okay system, but nothing stellar by any means.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:09 am

lol. yeah probably. For $2.99

Though to be honest I'm wondering if the engine is even capable of it, in any real sense. The modders tried like hell for Oblivion, and had an okay system, but nothing stellar by any means.

Yeah, i think it might not be, BUT since this is "new" engine, it should be, right? Though mounted combat might not have been Bethesdas #1 priority while making the game

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:01 pm

No.

It's standard Bethesda, no risks or real innovations have been made. The quests are still boring and non branching, immortal NPCs are still prolific, central antagonists, among other characters still have little or no depth, balance is terrible as ever, difficulty is non existent, and hyped up opponents (Ulfric, Alduin, etc) are weak and uninspired. The world as usual is beautiful and fun to explore, but they aren't getting any nods from me for doing what was already expected of them...while seeing fit to ignore instead of improve upon the areas they have traditionally been weak at.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:18 am

Not for me. And one reason was all the completely untrue or exaggerated statements about gameplay, AI etc..

^ This.

But I'm still enjoying the game very much, however!

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:12 pm

Yes.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:15 pm

No.

It's standard Bethesda, no risks or real innovations have been made. The quests are still boring and non branching, immortal NPCs are still prolific, central antagonists, among other characters still have little or no depth, balance is terrible as ever, difficulty is non existent, and hyped up opponents (Ulfric, Alduin, etc) are weak and uninspired. The world as usual is beautiful and fun to explore, but they aren't getting any nods from me for doing what was already expected of them...while seeing fit to ignore instead of improve upon the areas they have traditionally been weak at.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:26 pm

Yeah, the dynamic snow is BS. But i'm pretty sure they never said you could chop down trees. They did state many times that they don't do very much deformable terrain

I remember when Todd showed the E3 demo, Hod said "bring me all the wood you can chop", and i think people misunderstood it. Correct me if i'm wrong though.

About the engine. I think it is to some extent "new", since i cannot notice any Gamebryo trademarks in it, aside from bugginess and general performance. But it might be just heavily modded Gamebryo, hard to tell. Animations look new, graphics are better, everything is basically turned up. Like i said, hard to tell.

Alot of the E3, PAX interviews todd said that there was lumberjacking, when asked does that mean you can cut down trees, he replied Yes. Additionally he did a whole 2-3 min talk through the e3 video that explained how the economy was going to be more tied to the player. If you killed off the mill workers, wood based equipment in that hold would go down. So basically i kill the lumberjacks in riverwood, in whiterun the amount of wood based armour/weapons/arrows would lessen. He played off the fact that a considerable amount of interaction in the game had long standing influences on the economy.

And yes, its the same gamebryo engine, with a re-written renderer.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:47 am

I'm just curious, (again...lol) can you give one example of untrue statement or such?

Here's one! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEd1D-KD5xc

No seriously now, cba to find all his interviews now, google is your friend.