I really dont know wich to choose, so I see it this way.

Skyrim is better at immersion, visuals and combat


While Morrowind is better at mystery, atmosphere and lore

Matter of opinion. I feel Skyrim will be better than Oblivion of coarse, but each game has an ace. Oblivion has some good qualities aswell.

Also of opinion is the best TES game.

Which in my own is none other than: Daggerfall.

I think it's safe to assume BGS learned a ton of things from Oblivion and Morrowind (both failures and successes) and that is what they took with them into the development of Skyrim. I think we should give Skyrim's story a gander before we make any claims that it will be worse (or better) than MW or OB. A lot of people seem to be going in with the predisposition that this is going to be another MW or OB remake and are already incriminating BGS for past mistakes before Skyrim is even released. If we always dwell on people's past mistakes, all marriages would fail, no one would have a job, etc. I say, let's move on from the Oblivion stigma (for the record, I loved OB and am re-playing it right now), keep Morrowind on our list of RPG legends and give Skyrim the benefit of the doubt until it proves otherwise.

In a nutshell, I think Skryim will be life-changing.

Atmosphere and lore have yet to be seen. I have a feeling atmosphere while not as unique as Vvardenfell due to the land, culture, and people of Skyrim will be good. Lore is a big one we have to see for ourselves. And I'll group dialogue and story with it.

Otherwise fair point.

If all of those particularly fancy features mentioned in the Meristation article turn out to be true, then yes. Features such as snowstorms blocking paths, inter-village conflicts, and arson crimes really sound like some of the things they wanted to accomplish with Daggerfall's scope 15 years ago but were unable to due to time restraints. The ambition of this game compared to past TES games is truly inspiring.

I think it'll be a no contest. Morrowind is my least favorite in the series and coming off of Daggerfall it was a disappointment. The setting and world of Skyrim alone already make it better. Skyrim will be legendary and I truly believe that.

I think a lot of people are looking at this pessimistically because of the way OB turned out. Where it was a great game, it had the potential to trump Morrowind in every aspect except story. Unfortunately, something happened about a year or two from release and got almost half of the content cut from it.. :brokencomputer:

At this point, we're all hoping that Beth not only adds in what they cut in OB, but that they build on that even further. If they do go all out as was intended with OB, we could most definitely have a contender for best TES game. :tes:

Bottom line, most the of the "streamlining" and "oversimplification" wasn't intended at the E3 debut of OB. Everyone just got the wrong idea because of what happened that they'll do it again.

Don't know about legendary but I know it'll be a great game and RPG. Morrowind's redeeming factor for me was the world at large. More so than even the NPCs and lore.

Also yes, Daggerfall stands higher in my opinion too.

Morrowind's storyline and environment are what makes it good, however i've been playing morrowind recently again and i must say that the gameplay is acctually very boring and annoying. Also the graphics aren't great so immersion is kind've ruined too .

It's still a great and fun game to play though . But i'm 100% sure Skyrim will kick Morrowind's ass simply because the combat system is once again overhauled.

I've got no idea. I never played Morrowind. The only thing I know about it is that it's called Morrowind. And it takes place in Morrowind. That's it.

What?
It was for PC and was released in 1998 year.

Oh I see. I've never dabbled in TES games other than the numbered ones. I like the series but I'm no fan of it or BGS. By far Arena and Daggerfall are my most played.

Bethesda said they are focusing more on the MQ to make it a better experience this time.

Yes I will lay money down it will be better.

Im not sure if anyone has gone back and played Morrowind recently, but it has not aged well at all. I think people are kinda blinded by nastolgia, it isnt perticularly more in-depth than Oblivion, it really is just harder, its not accessable at all.. Dont get me wrong, Morrowind is fantastic, but playing it now, one NEEDS mods for it to be even bareable. Base Morrowind is not better than Oblivion, Morrowind with mods is better than Oblivion, Oblivion with mod's is better than Morrowind with mods, Base Skyrim will be better than Oblivion, and i'll bet Oblivion with mods will be better than base Skyrim.

Of course it will! The way I see it, Skyrim > Fallout 3 > Oblivion > Morrowind

Skyrim will be alot better :celebration:

It's very hard to say if one TES game is better than the other (at least for me), but considering all the pros and cons I think Skyrim might be a bit better than Morrowind, at least nowadays.

Honestly, I have no idea. I loved Morrowind immensely, and to this day it still stands as my favorite game of all time. However, from what I've seen and read on Skyrim, I think it definitely has a good chance of stealing that title.

The thing I loved so much about Morrowind was the rich lore and atmosphere. The world felt so different, so alien. Vvardenfell felt peaceful, but at the same time it felt like a harsh wilderness filled with danger. There was political strife, assassinations, and all that made the world feel truly alive. Skyrim, on the other hand, seems to be rough and almost lawless. It has a sort of Witcher atmosphere to it; dark and low-fantasy.

Skyrim will obviously beat Morrowind when it comes to gameplay; the games are 10 years apart. There's no way you can compare two games with such a stretch of time in between them. Whether Skyrim will win in story, atmosphere, and lore is something else entirely that we won't see until we play the game ourselves. I want Skyrim to the the best of the series, but at the same time, the nostalgia factor kicks in and I'm not so sure that it'll take that title so easily.

EDIT: I don't take mods into account. Why? Because I always play games unmodded at least the first time; in the case of TES, that includes all guilds as well as the main quest. In my opinion, vanilla Morrowind was better than vanilla Oblivion. Heck, I even thought modded Morrowind, with no more than a few graphic mods and texture mods, was better than an all-out modded Oblivion.

This is how I see the Morrowind and Oblivion thing: I play Morrowind when I want to get seriously playing a game. I play Oblivion more for messing around with things, especially the gimped physics system (which I dearly hope is fixed in Skyrim). They were both superb games. However, I still preferred Morrowind over Oblivion.

certainly so!

morrowind yes.

Daggerfall no.

*Thumbs up* We'll see. Hopefully so. But yes I doubt Daggerfall's excelling aces will be matched by Skyrim as Morrowind couldn't/ditched them.

I saw this and prayed to God that he wasn't serious.

Now after praying are you?


Also guys only time will tell, and I only seen modded and a few videos of Morrowind, so gameplay in Skyrim from what I've seen looks far more superior, and to be honest the combat is at least, everything else I'll wait, I already know most of you elitist are saying Skyrim is not better than Morrowind, and some are jumping on the silly bandwagon of ignorant Morrowind fans just like how World of Warcraft fans are towards Rift and will be towards Guild Wars 2, then go on their delusional ways.

You know I'd be more positive towards you Morrowind Elitist if I haven't seen many of your post which are most of the time directing the fact that No TES game can never be better than Morrowind unless it's an morrowind with updated graphics. Now when someone comes defends the morrowind elitist they are simply Morrowind elitist defending morrowind elitist, now in order to spot one, you just read(I'm serious lol.)

really? ........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITkh93MGW18


You're letting your nostalgia completely warp reality.

I think skyrim will surpass all the former games :celebration:

I liked the story and such from morrowind, but I hated the skill system, I hated enchanting, I hated lockpicking. Too complex with most of it for my tastes. Detracted from the fun for me.

Was why I liked Oblivion. Took much of that out and streamlined it. Now if only I could have Morrowind with what I'm seeing for Skyrim's systems...