Do you think that the Enclave is good?

Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:59 pm

The Enclaves motive is to save humanity, and restore the American Nation. whats wrong with that? ;) Everything in BS wouldn't have happened with out the LW. The Enclave are DOing something. they are also going about it in a smarter way than the BoS. If there plan worked they would have killed all mutants everywhere with out firing a shot pretty much.

@seti see, your not thinking again, they clearly DON'T want to kill everyone on the planet. they are killing all non human threats to make way for the "real" humans to rebuild with out fear.


:facepalm: Someone, please point out how the genocide of humans is bad. Also please make it clear that these people dying are slightly mutated humans, only very slightly, that are also dying. They are human. They would be you after living in the wastes for less than a year. the air they breath causes very slight mutations. Humans in the modern world can get similar mutations easily.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:40 am

The Enclaves motive is to save humanity, and restore the American Nation. whats wrong with that? ;) Everything in BS wouldn't have happened with out the LW. The Enclave are DOing something. they are also going about it in a smarter way than the BoS. If there plan worked they would have killed all mutants everywhere with out firing a shot pretty much.

@seti see, your not thinking again, they clearly DON'T want to kill everyone on the planet. they are killing all non human threats to make way for the "real" humans to rebuild with out fear.


:facepalm: Someone, please point out how the genocide of humans is bad. Also please make it clear that these people dying are slightly mutated humans, only very slightly, that are also dying. They are human. They would be you after living in the wastes for less than a year. the air they breath causes very slight mutations. Humans in the modern world can get similar mutations easily.
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:34 pm

The Enclaves motive is to save humanity, and restore the American Nation. whats wrong with that? ;) Everything in BS wouldn't have happened with out the LW. The Enclave are DOing something. they are also going about it in a smarter way than the BoS. If there plan worked they would have killed all mutants everywhere with out firing a shot pretty much.

@seti see, your not thinking again, they clearly DON'T want to kill everyone on the planet. they are killing all non human threats to make way for the "real" humans to rebuild with out fear.


:facepalm: Someone, please point out how the genocide of humans is bad. Also please make it clear that these people dying are slightly mutated humans, only very slightly, that are also dying. They are human. They would be you after living in the wastes for less than a year. the air they breath causes very slight mutations. Humans in the modern world can get similar mutations easily.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:54 am

Hitler. That's all I'll say.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:53 am

Humans in the modern world can get similar mutations easily.


Can and do. I have proof *pokes her prosthetic eye*
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:25 pm

They shoot at the LW at every opportunity. Kinda makes the whole "Good or Evil" debate moot right there. BoS on the otherhand are smart enough not to shoot the LW on sight untill provoked.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:05 am

Like some of the posters have said, not god, nor evil. Eden had it in is A.I. that He had to cleanse the wastes of non humans or altered humans (ghouls, and super mutants, but following His logic is flawed, because in their genetic DNA holds the same compilation a "normal" human would hold. It would kill all altered species of animal and insect life supposedly altered by radiation, but FEV would not kill all DNA related species (super mutants, ghouls and humans) That's why it made sense to incorporated in the expansion side quests that would rectify these short comings or loose ends. Have the lone wanderer help Doc Barrows reverse the ghoulification process. Have Lyons send the lone wanderer into vault 87 again to destroy the apparatus used to create super mutants and while there finds a cure or reversing agent to replicate. Why did they (the developers ) not have a reconciliation side quest to have the Brotherhood and Outcasts reconcile, or meet the West coast Brotherhood. Sorry, I'm rambling. The answer is no.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:46 am

On the east coast at least the fev. virus is running out. If you happen to listen to 2 supermutants talk one of the things they say is something about the green stuff running out, one of the reasons they are out and about looking for more that they may not even find. So seems to me superpmutans are a dying breed. The enclave is great if you one of them otherwise you're screwed. The sake of a better world for them selves is not a justifiable excuse to do these things they do, like wiping out every one else.
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:41 pm

I Do Not Exactly Agree With The Enclaves Methods But There Intentions Are Good , All In All I Side Side With The Enclave. They Are The Supreme Military Power With The LW Helping , The BS Would Have Lost Long Ago. The Enclave Can Produce Their Own Power Armor And Weapons , While The BS Use What They Scavenge



ALL BOW BEFORE THE ENCLAVE


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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:04 am

I Do Not Exactly Agree With The Enclaves Methods But There Intentions Are Good , All In All I Side Side With The Enclave. They Are The Supreme Military Power With The LW Helping , The BS Would Have Lost Long Ago. The Enclave Can Produce Their Own Power Armor And Weapons , While The BS Use What They Scavenge



ALL BOW BEFORE THE ENCLAVE


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In which case why i side with the BOS, No point in "slotting" into a Milarty operation (whever it be good or evil) and That of helping the "Underdog" to surcome and prevail into a better understanding of the harsh world of the wasteland and helping to prevent furhter mutation of whats left of the Human Race, and strive to re-populate and create a better world for all those willing to "Fight the Good Fight2

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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:10 am

One word: Obviously.
As sad as it is, the Enclave is the only competent faction out there. BoS is just a pack of losers who waste resources. If they weren't, I'd support them. But noooo.


Besides, any reasonable Fallout 3 player should realize the fact that the East Coast Enclave is not conducting genocide. They will wipe out the Capital Wasteland with FEV (well, Eden would), but otherwise they wouldn't use FEV as they may have learned from Richardson's mistakes.
Also, Autumn opposed the idea of Genocide. And as Eden is static, he can do nothing about it. Autumn won't stick in the FEV and no one gets killed - except the BoS fan boys of course. Enclave has one purpose: To restore America. BoS has multiple purposes: survive, recruit, destroy, build...
You heard Ashur, too. BoS is too incompetent to actually do something remarkable. They kill until there's nothing to kill and they move on.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:51 am

One word: Obviously.
As sad as it is, the Enclave is the only competent faction out there. BoS is just a pack of losers who waste resources. If they weren't, I'd support them. But noooo.


Besides, any reasonable Fallout 3 player should realize the fact that the East Coast Enclave is not conducting genocide. They will wipe out the Capital Wasteland with FEV (well, Eden would), but otherwise they wouldn't use FEV as they may have learned from Richardson's mistakes.
Also, Autumn opposed the idea of Genocide. And as Eden is static, he can do nothing about it. Autumn won't stick in the FEV and no one gets killed - except the BoS fan boys of course. Enclave has one purpose: To restore America. BoS has multiple purposes: survive, recruit, destroy, build...
You heard Ashur, too. BoS is too incompetent to actually do something remarkable. They kill until there's nothing to kill and they move on.


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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:42 am

While I now support the Enclave, I will always believe that the hid behind the lie that they are the American government. They "elected" Eden and Richardson, but not all of America voted, just the Enclave. They call themselves this, but they not.

Also, I was reading the last page and Seti, a slight mutation is a mutation.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:57 am

Sieg Heil

Don't start a discussion you know nothing about. And it will get this thread locked and nets you more ridiculousness points.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:08 am

Thats what I've been trying to tell him. He just can't seem to rap him head around it. Seti is killing your enemy a bad thing? You still not looking at it from any other view other than your own bias one. So you'll never see anything else.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:51 am

Thats what I've been trying to tell him. He just can't seem to rap him head around it. Seti is killing your enemy a bad thing? You still not looking at it from any other view other than your own bias one. So you'll never see anything else.


I see it from all views. Killing someone over a very small imperfection makes me confused. There's no operation the Enclave can perform to remove all mutations? If you think aboot it, that could net them more soldiers.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:38 am

i9 am wondering if mutations would include natural mutations as well..
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:43 am

they don't need any more soldiers. they have everything they need already. Vaults full of pure humans to repopulate America, a plan that will kill all threats to said human in one go. they don't have to risk time and resources on fixing possible genetic corruption in there ranks. the only time they would use outside sources is to get something they need. Like the chemicals in FO2 from the slavers, and crime bosses.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:21 am

why wouldnt they use select mutated persons for battle, if the mutation allowed for them to be a better soldier? like Frank?
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:04 am

Frank was a experiment. He was the only survivor of the Maraposia base team. (The ones they sent to get the FEV, after the slave labor turning into SM while digging it up.) Everyone considered him an abomination. Generally speaking when FEV failed to make the super soldiers they wanted they stopped human experimentation. they instead focused on altering animals and technology.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:07 am

Frank was a experiment. He was the only survivor of the Maraposia base team. (The ones they sent to get the FEV, after the slave labor turning into SM while digging it up.) Everyone considered him an abomination. Generally speaking when FEV failed to make the super soldiers they wanted they stopped human experimentation. they instead focused on altering animals and technology.

i know. franks was an experiment and people ddint like him, were scared.... but it doesnt ahve to be as drastic as that.. just people they happen to find that they could utilize for however long.... disposable, if you will.... why waste the bullets when you could use them at the least as sponges?


this is why my faction would rule! i would unite the freaks.. give them a sense of belonging. haha come on in the gene-pool is fine, even if a bit warm!
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:43 am

Thats why they engineered the deathclaws and stuff. :shrug:
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:27 am

Don't start a discussion you know nothing about. And it will get this thread locked and nets you more ridiculousness points.



I figured you would understand that saying being all gung ho enclave. What are you talking about start what discussion, tell what what the discussion is before you tell me I know nothing about it. If you people liked and played then enclave for no other reason then thier power and technology it would be one thing but you guys actually try to tell us how great they are for other reasons like how they what to restore the USA at any cost, and how thats all fine and dandy. Ridiculousness points is what you get every time you type something with out thinking which you do often.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:31 am

Ridiculousness points is what you get every time you type something with out thinking, which you do often.


Ah, I love the smell of flaming in the morning.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:10 am

Thats why they engineered the deathclaws and stuff. :shrug:

i reckon..

i just hink a mutie is a terrible thing to waste
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