Did the Dominion really withdraw from Hammerfell? I thought the resistance over there was still fighting an active war.

Not all of them. But the ones that matter and have power are...

very racists, but This one fights with them in hopes to weaken the empire, as to inspire civil unrest and the eventual end of the empire...

And thats the jist of it, but let's just say theirs more than one killer In windhelm

Well, I can only guess that you are referring to the quest "http://uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:In_My_Time_Of_Need where Kematu tells
you that the resistance against the Thalmor are alive and well in Hammerfell. Maybe an anachronism, maybe not. If I'm not mistaking, Kematu tells you something about
Saadie ratting the Redguards out to the Thalmor during the war, and that the nobles have found out that it was her. She could've been on the run for quite some time, or
it just took the nobles of Hammerfell a real long time to figure out who it was exactly that told the Dominion. So that could explain some of it. Well, I guess you can say, that the resistance against the
Thalmor in Hammerfell are better than the resistance of the Empire.

Hell no.

How does one guy insulting and threatening them, one guy that ISN'T a Stormcloak Soldier, equate to racism?

The Dunmer are refugees, and they're damned lucky they even have houses and paying jobs. After the [censored] they put the Argonians through, they're lucky to still be alive. And then Ulfric is gracious enough to let them into his city, and let them purchase houses and have jobs, and now they're the biggest damn sob story in Tamriel.

Many other cities wouldn't let them enter. Hell, NOBODY lets the Khajiit enter, and they keep trucking, not giving a crap. Nobody sheds a tear over the Khajiit, because they aren't whining about their 'misfortune'.

In short, the Stormcloaks aren't racist, the Dunmer are just wimps and can't handle getting knocked off their high horse by karma.

Lets be honest...Skyrim in general is racist. They hate anyone not human(sometimes I even think they dislike non nords when your character interacts with Redguard or Breton NPCs. "So what is a Breton doing in Skyrim?" Type questions.)

The difference between Stormcloaks and the general population of Skyrim is: Stormcloaks are malicious. Like Neo Nazis or the KKK.

Then why is everyone on Ulfric's staff Nord?....racist, he is.

Because 85% of the population of Skyrim is Nords?

Not to mention all of the people he's known his entire life being Nords, and the Nords being the most outraged by the ban on Talos worship, considering he's THEIR god. He's a NORD, so the NORDS will be the first to be up in arms about NORDS being dragged away for worshiping the NORD god. All the other races could up and quit easily, because they didn't care.

Nords? Not so much.

bull i dont love the dunmer for what they did but at least argonians were allowed to walk through balmora or aldruhn they treat the khajitts even worse and unlike the dunmer we dont have history with skyrim when did the argonians try to claim skyrim when did the khajitts invade skyrim? and yet the ones who once ruled resdayn are allowed within there walls? tf

no really someone explain this to me how is it they hate elves so much yet allow them into thier citys what did the beast races ever do to them?

What?

NONE of the cities allow Khajiit inside the walls. They're all racist on that part. Windhelm, and Ulfric, allowed the Dunmer in, when many other cities would not. They not only let them in, they gave them homes and jobs. Where else would they live besides the Gray Quarter? Last I checked, every other house was occupied by people that were there before them.

And really, the Dunmer don't deserve this sympathy. They got their tails whipped by the race they had oppressed, and made SLAVES of, for CENTURIES. They got their asses handed to them on a silver platter, and they got smacked right off their high horses. Now their living in slums, and they demand sympathy.

The Argonians are celebrating over in Black Marsh because they had the guts to live through CENTURIES of SLAVERY, and kicked the crap out of the Dunmer. Did anybody think that was a tragedy?

No. So why should the Dunmer having homes and jobs after fleeing from their province with very little, or no, possessions receive sympathy. They're lucky for refugees, if anything.

^this!

Some of them, but not all of them.

i dont care about the dunmer i just think the nords are almost as bad just one slave ship away from being worse both races svck on that part i just find it messed up that the dunmer were even givin the grayquater while we argonians are forced to the docks the frak is up with that i thought the nords hated elves so why are we and the argonians still stuck outside like dogs in the rain im not talking in support of the dunmer im talking out of outrage for argonians and khajitts its total bs

i agree with you the dunmer dont deserve sympathy but at least a free argonian was allowed to walk into any city in vvardenfell ..that said :intergalactic:

Nationalism becomes racism when it revolves around a racial identity, not a set of ideals. There's a big gap between "Skyrim for the Nords" and "Skyrim for the strong and for those who worship Talos."

I admired the Stormcloaks until... I saw a lot of the things, several Stormcloak members said. Now I'm just trying to figure out which faction I dislike least... I strongly dislike the Empire for bowing before the Thalmor, and forcing their will+the way they're invading/forcefully trying to conquer Skyrim. I wish I could betray all 3, though the Empire/Thalmor have a special amount of ire in my heart, mainly for their ganging tactics/invading Skyrim. I don't know about the Stormcloak faction as a whole, but a lot of Stormcloak members definitely.



Just so far as having their land invaded by the Empire/Thalmor I think, nothing beyond that.

Individuals and societies can emphasize a particular cultural identity without being racist, as long as their belief does not degenerate into prejudice and persecution. Nationalism usually does become racism, but it cannot be said with any certainty that the Stormcloaks will lead the Nords down that road. Well, they do clearly hate the Altmer, but everyone does, and they deserve it for being a bunch of genocidal lunatics.

Even in the multicultural USA, a nation of imigrants, nationalism is hardly distinguishable from racism.

X country is great, let's leave our [censored] home and flock there and demand the government there to give us house, give us food, give us drink and give us Internet.

Skyrim is safe and prosperous, let's leave our [censored] volcano/war torn city/thalmor-occupied woodland and flock there. Let's get in Windhelm and use their huge walls as our home.
What? You mean all your proper housings have been occupied by the Nord citizens already and there's only the slums left? You damn nords. Give us all your fancy houses or I'll call you a racist.

No they're not.

What right do you have as a leader to influence the personal autonomy of others in the way that they think? Any ruler is ultimately only in power as long as his subjects consent to it, if you're the leader of a group of racist Nords, there's not much you can do without them simply saying '[censored] this guy, we'll find someone else to lead us'.

Plus, the preservation of personal autonomy is the basis of pretty much all rights, you have no right to prevent someone being racist.

Im kinda bad at this lore stuff, can someone fill me in on the forsworn?

i did a quest with them and they said something about being there first?

I thnk they are pretty rascist.

Tiber Septim was a nord and the empire was more or less birthed in Skyrim, the only way they'd come close to being anologous to native Americans would be if the natives had founded the British Empire and went on to conquer large parts of the rest of the world.

You mean the nord citizens living there originally should just give the dark elf refugees all their proper houses and go into the slums themselves?

Not all of them, its just a stereotype but their most important figures are racist.

Being for your own race is not wrong. Its not immoral. Its not evil. Its the opposite. People only call it such because its about white people. Hate the whites. Slander the whites. Treat the whites like crap and make sure you demonize them.

You NEVER hear about how this needs to be done concerning non-whites. Lets hurt them chinese people. They need to be integrated. Wait a minute. We need to flood the Mexicans south of the USA with whites. They dont need to have their own country/people/land for themselves.

Better yet, lets make sure we call it racist for the Indians over in India to have their own land and their own people and do things just for the own race; Hell, we all know thats okay - they arent white.

Even more so, lets flood Africa with whites. Take away the Congo, Zimbabwe and all those lovely places from the Blacks. They dont need to have their own country. Its racist.

See the point? Ive yet to read a single article, newspaper, media story or movie that is accepted and hailed as morally "righteous" that would advocate such for a race that isnt white.

Shows a double standard. Screw you.