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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:20 pm

Yeah, that's definitely concept art. Though a lot of crazy people like to think it's not. :P

Todd Howard and others have already said that everything inside the province is within reach, as it should be.


no thats definatly not concept art. it was released on gameinformer as a 100% betesda confirmed ingame screenshot, from the xbox 360 version.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:55 am

Like I said, I don't give a [censored].
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:45 am

Like I said, I don't give a [censored].


Well aren't you opinionated.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. Like I said, we'll know in 7 months.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:55 am

Yes, that picture was taken in-game, as said by many people at many times.
And probably not, to answer your question. A lot of that looks like steep cliffs and slippery ice up and down that mountain. But definitely there'll be some way to the top, that's probably the main mountain thing.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:46 am

Yeah, that's definitely concept art. Though a lot of crazy people like to think it's not. :P

Todd Howard and others have already said that everything inside the province is within reach, as it should be.

You would be wrong friend it most def is not concept art go to minute 1:16 in the trailer I believe and you will see it looking exactly like that right behind the town you are in !
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:05 am

You would be wrong friend it most def is not concept art go to minute 1:16 in the trailer I believe and you will see it looking exactly like that right behind the town you are in !


You made me watch the trailer again. You guys better stop it. That much epic isn't good for my health.

On that particular screenshot, I'm on the "not so sure" group. The mist looks almost too beautiful, almost handmade. But then again Crysis 2 has shown that a game can make absolutely wonderful smoke, I don't see why mist would be THAT much different. The lighting also looks almost too good to be true.

What makes me think it could be rendered on real time is the shadows. Not that I'm complaining about the shadows, should it be real time, but there's a sensible difference beetween a real time rendered shadow and a treated one.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:13 pm

I'm already aware it isn't an in-game screenshot

But it is.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:56 am

I think it is because at the end of the trailer those mountains are seen in the distance look like a side view of the screenshot
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:36 am

Like I said, I don't give a [censored].


Seriously, I was reading this thread peacefully and you have managed to piss me off. Can you at least gather the decency to treat people with some respect? Get over yourself. You come onto the thread, tell everyone their opinion is flat out wrong and unfounded without any evidence but "your eyes". I can understand not taking someone seriously if they said something ridiculous and easy to refute, but you haven't given any decent reason to back up your opinion. If you want to look down on people, at least do it from a decent vantage point. At the moment you just seem dogmatic and unintelligent, a bad combination.

Now I'll give you a chance. Let's hear your reasons for why this picture is "definitely edited" and not at all reflective of the game. They may redeem you in the eyes of just about everyone else here. If not, do everyone a favour and refrain from posting because you haven't shown any consideration for others as of yet. From what else I've read in the thread, they deserve your respect.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:18 am

Seriously, I was reading this thread peacefully and you have managed to piss me off. Can you at least gather the decency to treat people with some respect? Get over yourself. You come onto the thread, tell everyone their opinion is flat out wrong and unfounded without any evidence but "your eyes". I can understand not taking someone seriously if they said something ridiculous and easy to refute, but you haven't given any decent reason to back up your opinion. If you want to look down on people, at least do it from a decent vantage point. At the moment you just seem dogmatic and unintelligent, a bad combination.

Now I'll give you a chance. Let's hear your reasons for why this picture is "definitely edited" and not at all reflective of the game. They may redeem you in the eyes of just about everyone else here. If not, do everyone a favour and refrain from posting because you haven't shown any consideration for others as of yet. From what else I've read in the thread, they deserve your respect.

If you take offense from anything I say, that's your problem. I'm not going to reiterate myself to make you feel better. Want my my opinion? Look back a few pages.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:25 am

If you take offense from anything I say, that's your problem. I'm not going to reiterate myself to make you feel better. Want my my opinion? Look back a few pages.


Whenever you enter a conversation, you do so with other people. So far, you haven't come across to well to just about everyone here. I think that much is pretty obvious. My offense isn't going to ruin my life, but your attitude (if it extends elsewhere) may end up having an effect on yours. I posted for your benefit, not mine. It is possible that you don't care what the majority of people here think about you. You may not care what anyone thinks of you out in real life. Regardless, I thought you should know how you look to anyone from the outside. Either you honestly don't understand how conceited you sound, or you are perfectly aware and it doesn't bother you. Even if you don't care, have the courtesy not to ruin the atmosphere for other people. In regards to the picture, you still haven't really presented a solid argument for why this is artwork or heavily edited. I quote, "Things are set up too perfectly such as the sunset in the background and the mist along the rocks. It is obviously artwork or an edited screenshot".

Response: of course Beth can set up things like a sunset and mist. Even I can do that simply by waiting in Oblivion. People being paid to do so can obviously take even more care to come out with the best result. Being picturesque is the exact goal of a screenshot. Having the picture set up is completely irrelevant in regards to the screenshot's validity. So far we have been told it is a screenshot (and/or screenshots). The mountains, save for the panorama, don't look different from what he have seen, textures or otherwise. The onus of proof is upon you to show signs of editing. This you have not done. All I ask is for a complete iteration of your idea, not a reiteration.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:21 am

It does look off, it doesn't look like other in game footage. Maybe those textures appear when things are way off in the draw distance or something. But I'll point out screenshot can be from a cut-scene or movie.


As for the go anywhere parts, I assume there will be a border of some kind, if it is a mountain border you won't be able to climb/fly over it. Non border mountains and other things like rooftops who knows, kind of depends on jumping skills and levitate.
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In regards to the picture, you still haven't really presented a solid argument for why this is artwork or heavily edited. I quote, "Things are set up too perfectly such as the sunset in the background and the mist along the rocks. It is obviously artwork or an edited screenshot".

Response: of course Beth can set up things like a sunset and mist. Even I can do that simply by waiting in Oblivion. People being paid to do so can obviously take even more care to come out with the best result. Being picturesque is the exact goal of a screenshot. Having the picture set up is completely irrelevant in regards to the screenshot's validity. So far we have been told it is a screenshot (and/or screenshots). The mountains, save for the panorama, don't look different from what he have seen, textures or otherwise. The onus of proof is upon you to show signs of editing. This you have not done. All I ask is for a complete iteration of your idea, not a reiteration.


This guy has a fair point, and has made it intellgently.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:15 am

Whenever you enter a conversation, you do so with other people. So far, you haven't come across to well to just about everyone here. I think that much is pretty obvious. My offense isn't going to ruin my life, but your attitude (if it extends elsewhere) may end up having an effect on yours. I posted for your benefit, not mine. It is possible that you don't care what the majority of people here think about you. You may not care what anyone thinks of you out in real life. Regardless, I thought you should know how you look to anyone from the outside. Either you honestly don't understand how conceited you sound, or you are perfectly aware and it doesn't bother you. Even if you don't care, have the courtesy not to ruin the atmosphere for other people. In regards to the picture, you still haven't really presented a solid argument for why this is artwork or heavily edited. I quote, "Things are set up too perfectly such as the sunset in the background and the mist along the rocks. It is obviously artwork or an edited screenshot".

Response: of course Beth can set up things like a sunset and mist. Even I can do that simply by waiting in Oblivion. People being paid to do so can obviously take even more care to come out with the best result. Being picturesque is the exact goal of a screenshot. Having the picture set up is completely irrelevant in regards to the screenshot's validity. So far we have been told it is a screenshot (and/or screenshots). The mountains, save for the panorama, don't look different from what he have seen, textures or otherwise. The onus of proof is upon you to show signs of editing. This you have not done. All I ask is for a complete iteration of your idea, not a reiteration.


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If we are truly able to go everywhere there should be some manner of cliff scaling in the game. I don't think we will see that. I feel many of these mountains will be there to make the game world "feel" larger than what it truly is. Good move as OB could have really used that as opposed to the "fishbowl feel". I am hoping that if they are trying to make the world and dungeons more unique than OB that they will place a couple of cave or ruin entrances in these mountains at hard to reach locations with access by "rock hopping". Not to many as I would rather be planting a blade in the skull of a critter rather than hopping from rock to rock... but then again it is something else to do in a huge world when you are bored :whistling:
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:21 am

if it exists in the game why wouldnt you be able to
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:10 pm

I will say that if that isn't concept art (or in-game art, in which case Pete could be justified calling it a "screenshot"), then clearly the graphics in the trailer are totally misleading and not indicative at all of what the engine is capable of...

That or it's the greatest bullshot of all time.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:27 am

if it exists in the game why wouldnt you be able to

It could be outside the border, meaning that it would be impossible to traverse.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:16 am

It could be outside the border, meaning that it would be impossible to traverse.

well good point i think that maybe high hrothgar though considering how huge that mountain is
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:20 am

they could do with the mts just what they did with the ocean in morrowind, you can keep going but there aint nothing out there but more mts, I would love that plus give the modders more area to work with.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:03 am

I think it will be like oblivion, can go pretty much everywhere but there will be limits
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:49 am

I think it will be a combination of too steep, and to foggy, with howling winds, and terrible snow storms keeping you in.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:41 pm

Dunno, looks like concept art to me. The mist in particular doesnt resemble the mist in other screenshots.

Until I see a link from a dev confirming this as a screenshot, I'm not buying it. *shrug* not that it matters really.

reposting:

http://twitter.com/faulgor/status/24019187710038016

@DCDeacon The mountains on GI's page 48 - screen or artwork? Can't tell but looks awesome either way. 12:26 AM Jan 9th via web


http://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/24025244436004864

@faulgor Screenshot. Pretty great huh? 12:50 AM Jan 9th via Twitter for iPhone in reply to faulgor

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We might not be able to climb some of the mountains, like the "Wilderness" in Morrowind beyond the borders. It could be endless mountain. No one will know for sure until the game is released.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:03 am

Ugh this thread just keeps getting uglier. :liplick:

Lets just put down a couple facts so that the late comers know what is going on.

1. The image shown in the OP has been confirmed multiple times to be a SCREENSHOT. When specifically asked whether this image were a screen or concept art, the response was Screen. There is no debate on whether this is a screenshot. NONE.

2. It has been mentioned by a developer that "Anywhere you can see in Skyrim, you can go". Although I cant find a direct soure anywhere. Link anyone?

3. The question is not whether this is concept art or a screenshot. IF this area is in the game map, we want to know do you think you will be able to climb the peaks of these mountains? Based on the "Go anywhere" quote and the fact that these mountains look too steep to climb, the OP is asking how or if you think we will be able to 'go anywhere' in this picture.

4. Many people still do not think that this screenshot is an actual in-game location. However since it was confirmed to be a in-game screenshot other theories include that this an 'out of game' location or a 'boundary' that you can see bordering the 'outside' of the map. Others conclude that it may be an in-game cinematic view, or in game 'video' if you will. Theories that are NOT valid include "This screenshot is actually concept art. Duh."- See number 1.

Please read what the thread is talking about, and what has already been discussed before posting. If you think this is concept art by all means state your case. Just keep it logical and fact based.

In my personal opinion, I think the screenshot looks unreal. It doesnt look like a screen but rather a concept art image.....However. Based on the facts I am more than convinced that this is an actual in game location and you will not only be able to go there, but you will be able to climb these peaks somehow as well. Just my opinion.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:19 am

I will say that if that isn't concept art (or in-game art, in which case Pete could be justified calling it a "screenshot"), then clearly the graphics in the trailer are totally misleading and not indicative at all of what the engine is capable of...That or it's the greatest bullshot of all time.


Why? It looks just like the mountains in the trailer but with less mist and brighter lighting. If anything, they've probably put it to a setting where detail is rendered at a somewhat greater distance (I say this only because the distance back that the images become silhouettes appears somewhat further).

4. Many people still do not think that this screenshot is an actual in-game location. However since it was confirmed to be a in-game screenshot other theories include that this an 'out of game' location or a 'boundary' that you can see bordering the 'outside' of the map.

I am forced to wonder, why would the developers build an area OUTSIDE of the game map in higher detail than those inside the game map? I believe that is the mountain range in the snowy area near Windhelm.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:14 pm

I know it's a screenshot and I would not be surprised to see it in the middle of the map. However, when Todd said you'd be able to go anywhere you see, I do not take that to literally mean that you can step foot on every square meter of the game world. I expect there to be a lot of areas that you can't get to due to terrain. I take his comments more generally, meaning that you can reach the general areas. Given the steepness of those mountains, I expect a lot of it to be untraversable, except mostly on roads, paths, etc.
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