So You Think You Can RP

Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:41 pm

Ah, you get it. We're not wired in exactly the same way, and thus we cannot really tell how a female/male would act to something as intense as love.



:rolleyes:

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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:02 pm

*raises eyebrow* I thought you didn't believe in telling people how to RP, and that I was being horrible and arrogant by presuming to make a guide? :P ;)


I figured someone would say that. =/

@ ImmortalBlood - I believe, like Elgen, that women and guys think differently, I however, can understand that if a woman is brought up around guys, especially, violent and "Manly" guys then perhaps that woman will start thinking like a bloke, but there are certain traits which both males and females have that differ from each other. I wont go into what because I'll probably end up insulting people again and I've done that enough in this thread. /nod
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:02 am

I figured someone would say that. =/

@ ImmortalBlood - I believe, like Elgen, that women and guys think differently, I however, can understand that if a woman is brought up around guys, especially, violent and "Manly" guys then perhaps that woman will start thinking like a bloke, but there are certain traits which both males and females have that differ from each other. I wont go into what because I'll probably end up insulting people again and I've done that enough in this thread. /nod



No, people think differently. The fact that someone is male or female does not change how they will think. That is simply cultural up bringing that espouses different focuses and such. If one is to fall prey to these factors then I can see how someone will do something because they think "I have a _____ between my legs so I should do this." Even culturally a man from Japan will think a lot more differently then a man from America then he would with a fellow Japanese woman.

Like wise a Dunmer male will think more closely to a Dunmer woman then a fellow male who would be an Altmer/Breton/Imperial whatever.

These "differences" are really just part of modern "folk" culture and is usually pushed forth or motivated by two or more philosophical or even political factors. For example if some guy spoke to me with the mentality that I would come up with a different idea or solution because i'm a different gender then him I wouldn't speak to them at all unless needed for something. Now if he asked my opinion on something because I was a different person then him then by all accounts he'd be an alright guy to me.

I think people here especially on the internet read a lot of crap and assume a lot of what they are told which is why they get these ideas. The difference of gender just means on which part of the equation you are on during reproduction. I mean sure in general males are larger then female but other then that people exagirate too much.

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RP A CHARACTER NOT WHAT THEY HAVE BETWEEN THEIR LEGS!
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:40 am

I must state, however, that males and females approach relationships and life in general differently. it is part of our nature that has developed through the ages because of the roles each plays in reproduction, and how that has affected or behaviorisms in society itself. Women are typically more emotional than men, and men are typically more on the side of the practical and easy to do. Women pay attention to small details and often like to elaborate on things: men typically like to get straight to the point of the matter.

DISCLAIMER: this is just what I say from the average types of people I meet and know on a day to day basis. And from what I learned in my Psychology class.

The fact is, we genders have different ways of thinking about certain matters. We approach relationships differently, family differently, problems differently. It is not a bad thing, or a sixually discriminating thing. A woman knows what a woman would want from a man: men usually haven't a bloody clue. While the degree of gender variations in mentality vary depending on the culture, very few cultures could claim that their men and women understand each other completely.

Gender determines not only which side of the reproductive cycle you participate, but also how you approach your duties within that cycle and how you approach life in general. It is not a bad thing, and not the largest factor in how the mind of someone will work in any way. Just being a woman doesn't mean you'll be a preppy crybaby, or that being a man means you'll be a big sports player who thinks only about his next game and the drinking party afterwards.
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:11 pm

I must state, however, that males and females approach relationships and life in general differently. it is part of our nature that has developed through the ages because of the roles each plays in reproduction, and how that has affected or behaviorisms in society itself. Women are typically more emotional than men, and men are typically more on the side of the practical and easy to do. Women pay attention to small details and often like to elaborate on things: men typically like to get straight to the point of the matter.

DISCLAIMER: this is just what I say from the average types of people I meet and know on a day to day basis. And from what I learned in my Psychology class.

The fact is, we genders have different ways of thinking about certain matters. We approach relationships differently, family differently, problems differently. It is not a bad thing, or a sixually discriminating thing. A woman knows what a woman would want from a man: men usually haven't a bloody clue. While the degree of gender variations in mentality vary depending on the culture, very few cultures could claim that their men and women understand each other completely.

Gender determines not only which side of the reproductive cycle you participate, but also how you approach your duties within that cycle and how you approach life in general. It is not a bad thing, and not the largest factor in how the mind of someone will work in any way. Just being a woman doesn't mean you'll be a preppy crybaby, or that being a man means you'll be a big sports player who thinks only about his next game and the drinking party afterwards.



I think it is non sense to say a woman knows what a man wants but the man does not. That's a sweeping generalization. And I rarely care what a Psychologist says either. People don't understand their own minds yet they claim to understand other's?

Very few cultures could claim that people understand each other completely. Why segregate it to men and women? It adds un needed stress and it is inefficient.

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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:27 pm

I think it is non sense to say a woman knows what a man wants but the man does not. That's a sweeping generalization. And I rarely care what a Psychologist says either. People don't understand their own minds yet they claim to understand other's?

Very few cultures could claim that people understand each other completely. Why segregate it to men and women? It adds un needed stress and it is inefficient.


Seconded. So many people these days try to accomplish the impossible task of understanding the human mind. Each one works differently, why can't people accept that they aren't part of a hive-society where everyone thinks like them and agrees with them?
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:21 pm

Very well put! Being a game master for a few pen-and-paper games, I have to explain this almost every month to new players... heh. Now I'll just link them this :)
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:30 pm

Just being a woman doesn't mean you'll be a preppy crybaby, or that being a man means you'll be a big sports player who thinks only about his next game and the drinking party afterwards.


Apparently you've never been to Texas. :P
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:05 pm

Apparently you've never been to Texas. :P


God, it's hell here....I'm not exactly the 'Texan' type. :nope:
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:41 pm

I tend not to roleplay women because I don't understand women. I've tried, but I've never been able to and I probably never will. It plays into the RPing itself. If you don't feel like you can realistically play a character type, don't do it. I could never play an Altmer, for example, because the arrogance and snootiness of Altmer culture just isn't something I feel like I could realistically maintain for an entire story. So whatever. Personal choice, if you don't think you can realistically cross-RP, don't. Because if you can''t you'll spoil the realism for everyone else.

On details and uniqueness: Give characters pasts. Also, physical details are a good distinguishing trait. An example is my favorite character I've ever made, Leon. I've used him in several RPs elsewhere and in a "formal" story. His earliest chronological appearance could be used as an example.

He's short and scraggly-looking. Emaciated and bony, with long, filthy black hair. He'd never before held a weapon of any kind, just a stick for herding the cows. He was a slave, he had nothing but a loincloth. He eventually learned how to do this and that, the heroing craft. He had some facial tattoos and marks all down his back from whippings. Over time, he got more and more skilled and powerful. That's kind of an example of developing from an average Joe to hero, as opposed to the less interesting "Born a hero" veriety.
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:31 am

Hmm, I wish there wasn't so much controversy on the whole vampires and werewolves thing, but I must say quite a bit of people don't like to use the given TES lore and make me feel rather awkward. Although they (TES vampires and werewolves) are quite balanced, the problem is, no one looks into or knows their weaknesses, which they do have and can be exploited.

Oh, and one more thing, are you intended to have a strengths and weaknesses part of your character sheet?
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:50 am

Hmm, I wish there wasn't so much controversy on the whole vampires and werewolves thing, but I must say quite a bit of people don't like to use the given TES lore and make me feel rather awkward. Although they (TES vampires and werewolves) are quite balanced, the problem is, no one looks into or knows their weaknesses, which they do have and can be exploited.

Oh, and one more thing, are you intended to have a strengths and weaknesses part of your character sheet?

Vampires in TES Lore are actually very remarkable. I find the Montalion Clan of Wayrest to be my personal favorite.

Also... Illusionary will not be updating this ever. She has left the forums.
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:51 pm

Wait wait wait, Illusionary left? Why? And how come something like this always happens when I come around from a hiatus?
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:08 pm

Wait wait wait, Illusionary left? Why? And how come something like this always happens when I come around from a hiatus?

http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=792462

Yes, she has. Good to see you back, but If may request we keep this thread very on topic.

Actually, concerning this. Illusionary left because of supposed Hate-mail from this board from someone unknown. To add to her guide, a Role Player should be a good sport, and not whine and [censored] and moan and send hate-mail. A role player must stick to common politeness and mannerism, even online, and be kind to their fellow role players.
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:55 pm

Amen to that FC4.
I hope one day she do get back... even if it will take a long time.
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Post » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:45 am

Why would you send hate-mail to someone over RPs? Or was it over something else? Still, that's such a childish thing.


Is there a guide to good sportsmanship in RPs? Like a code of conduct, or rules of respect, or something of the sort?

"Rule Number 1: Its just a game."
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:51 pm

Why would you send hate-mail to someone over RPs? Or was it over something else? Still, that's such a childish thing.
Is there a guide to good sportsmanship in RPs? Like a code of conduct, or rules of respect, or something of the sort?

"Rule Number 1: Its just a game."


Why do we need one? it's common sense. Each Rp has it's own rules of conduct and that should really be how it should stay.
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Post » Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:29 am

Age: This is where you put your character age. IMPORTANT NOTE: If your char has a ridiculously high age (e.g. an elf?) I would advise adding what age they appear to be, otherwise people will think your char is the King of Wrinkle-town. Also, ages any larger than 400 (already massively high!) are just being silly.

Elves easily can live past 400. Barenziah and most of the Telvanni masters are older than that.
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:11 pm

Elves easily can live past 400. Barenziah and most of the Telvanni masters are older than that.


yes but they used necromancy too.
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:13 pm

yes but they used necromancy too.

Not all of them use necromancy. Most are rich and can afford better care then say a commoner who would die at a younger age.
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:46 pm

I was writing down an RP profile for a character I was about to make and I needed a place to submit it. Thank goodness I saw your guide before I decided to join this forum! It helped me polish up some of my character's statistics and I now think I'm ready to submit him into this little world.

THANKS.
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Post » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:04 am

Okay, folks, I think the point has been missed. I'm reasonably sure the intention wasn't to say to not play characters that old, but to label what age they would appear to be in human years, for example, an altmer at the age of 500 would appear to be middle ages (40-50). So it would look like this

Name: Feanaro
Race: Altmer
Age: 500 (appears 40)
six: M

For the first block of information.
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:03 pm

Okay, folks, I think the point has been missed. I'm reasonably sure the intention wasn't to say to not play characters that old, but to label what age they would appear to be in human years, for example, an altmer at the age of 500 would appear to be middle ages (40-50). So it would look like this

Name: Feanaro
Race: Altmer
Age: 500 (appears 40)
six: M

For the first block of information.

No... I think the intention was to play characters at a reasonable age. Even Altmer are not likely to live through to five hundred if they are not heavily magic users. Namely: if they live outside Summerset, they aren't likely to live to 500. Not to say it is impossible, of course.

But then also the fact remains that playing an old, experienced character doesn't leave you much room for your character to grow and learn. It is hard to teach an old dog new tricks. So it is not highly recommended to play one. Not to mention old, experienced characters are likely to be uber.
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Post » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:34 pm

No... I think the intention was to play characters at a reasonable age. Even Altmer are not likely to live through to five hundred if they are not heavily magic users. Namely: if they live outside Summerset, they aren't likely to live to 500. Not to say it is impossible, of course.

But then also the fact remains that playing an old, experienced character doesn't leave you much room for your character to grow and learn. It is hard to teach an old dog new tricks. So it is not highly recommended to play one. Not to mention old, experienced characters are likely to be uber.


UBERZILLA!!!!!

And yes father, I agree with your observations. This is why I often like playing the adolescence, being one myself. I, admittedly, have split personalities, and they both show themselves at school. Not to delve into that, though. My youngest character yet is only about 17, and I still think that is quite young.

I remember reading somewhere that certain Altmer live up to 800 years, father. I believe a Mages' Guild Altmer mentioned something like that as well, in the Cheydinhal Mages' Guild, I believe. I may be wrong, but I vaguely remember hearing such things.
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Post » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:00 am

UBERZILLA!!!!!

And yes father, I agree with your observations. This is why I often like playing the adolescence, being one myself. I, admittedly, have split personalities, and they both show themselves at school. Not to delve into that, though. My youngest character yet is only about 17, and I still think that is quite young.

I remember reading somewhere that certain Altmer live up to 800 years, father. I believe a Mages' Guild Altmer mentioned something like that as well, in the Cheydinhal Mages' Guild, I believe. I may be wrong, but I vaguely remember hearing such things.

:rolleyes: Not this again...

Yes, CERTAIN altmer. Namely the mages. However, that is if something such as say... combat... general life hazards... disease... etc. Don't kill them.
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