Do you want Dremora to appear in Skyrim?

If so what type?
Morrowind Style Dremora
Oblivion Style Dremora
Brand New "Skyrim" Style Dremora

and this time around I hope the Dremora Lords actually wield full Dremora armor, not missing the gloves or helmet like Oblivion.

The Dremora in Oblivion didn't look that different from the Dremora in Morrowind...

They are the same Dremora... But the "style of appearance" would have to be more in lines with Morrowind - some summoned creatures, or maybe guarding some daedric themed ruins, nothing as large scale as Oblivion - Dremora have to go back to being a rear creature.

Why do people always have to bring Morrowind and Oblivion into this?
Could have done with a simple Yes or No poll...

At any rate, yes.

yes! And something new would be awesome

To me they did. In Oblivion they had weird unproportional faces and their whole face looked like it was burnt, or blue. In morrowind they had tattoos(I think they are tattoos) and they have spikes in various places on there faces.

I would preffer the Morrowind type, with the armor fusioned to them and with a cooler armor anyway. On the other hand, this design could be surpased by another new one.

Yeah I guess this is what I was hinting at, but I didnt want to demean the thread, could be a worthwhile discussion.

They had Tatoo's in both versions, but I'd hope they are incredibly strong, and proficient with weapons like no other mortal

OF COURSE they are going to be in Skyrim.

I changed the poll to style instead of type. Thanks for the correction. :biggrin:

http://images.uesp.net//4/45/OB-NPC-Dremora_Caitiff_Melee.jpg
http://images.uesp.net//5/5f/MW-creature-Dremora.jpg

Only notable difference I see is the skin mesh and the fact that the Oblivion one had the standard poorly modeled Oblivion face.

Yes, I'd like Dremora back.

Well if you look at this mod- http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15549
to me that is what the dremora from morrowind would look like in oblivion if they had the same style.

You're kidding right? The MW Dremora and OB Dremora look nothing alike. The Morrowind one actually look badass. In Oblivion they had ugly, unnatural shaped faces, their armor was way different, and their skin was also not at all like in MW.

Yes, because "Dremora" means "armor", and I didn't address skin or facial structure.

Well, their armor did, due to the style of the Daedric armor in the game, but for the faces, either one doesn't make that much difference to me. Though I did like how Oblivion's Dremora were NPCs instead of creatures, even though it wasn't really fully taken advantage of. I also liked the idea of having various classes of Dremora instead of just Dremora and Dremora Lords. Though I did kind of like how Morrowind's Dremora could have leveled weapon drops of a variety of different materials, instead of just knockoff Daedric weapons that aren't nearly strong enough to justify their weight and real Daedric weapons for the highest level ones. But I'm speaking mostly of the mechanics for implementation there, for the designs, I'd actually like something new, because I want to see what new things Bethesda can come up with for the Dremora, and besides, the armor on the Dremora looked identicle to Daedric armor in both Morrowind and Oblivion, even though in Morrowind, it was just part of their creature models whereas in Oblivion, they were wearing armor, although only the real Daedric armor that the highest level ones wore could actually be looted. In any case, it would only make sense for them to look like they're wearing Daedric armor in Skyrim too, whether they actually are or it's just part of their models, and since I'm sure Daedric armor will get a new design, of course the Dremora armor should too.

Though as far as how common they are, Morrowind's approach of having them as summons and spawns in some dungeon would be more appropriate for Skyrim, since the Oblivion invasion is over. And yes, Dremora should be in the game. Why would you need to ask if they should or not? They've been a standard creature in the series since well before the Oblivion crisis, so I see no reason why we shouldn't see them after it.



So did all the other NPCs in Oblivion.

oblivion dremora are not too different. just that oblivion has horrible faces. i mean oogly faces.i like the OB armor more. except i want more helms

It'd be nice to see them return, but they'd get a more savage, bestial, almost biomechanical redesign if I had any input - their armour fused with the flesh and bone of their bodies, massive curving horns, blade-like fingertips...

I guess I just find the "red guy in heavy armour" style a bit uninspired.

Yeah, but Dremora were worse.

Anyways, my point is, the MW and OB Dremora's does not look alike. Not even the armor. At all.

I agree.

Yes, in a skyrim way. Certainly not as common as in oblivion. I suspect mainly though summoning. Though they could appear from something else I can't imagine yet. Just so long as they aren't so common.

That would be awesome.

Why do you keep talking about armor? Armor has nothing to do with it. Shut up about armor. Nobody cares if the armor looks different, since this thread has nothing to do with armor. Skin different? So what. Put a different mesh on. The head was just poorly modeled. In fact,
http://images.uesp.net//5/5f/MW-creature-Dremora.jpg
http://images.uesp.net//5/5a/OB-npc-Kathutet.jpg
The heads aren't even THAT different.

I guess I'm one of the minory that don't want demons and ghosts and undeads in the game... there are plenty of creatures already, aren't there? Also, a new expansion like shivering isles, or even better, is certainly wanted~

To me the daedra are what make the elder scrolls, the elder scrolls
but I understand your point of view.

I do hope to see Dremora, and Daedra in general, but I hope they'll be rare, and perhaps only associated with certain hard to access quests, or Daedric ruins should any exist in Skyrim. I wouldn't mind seeing a frost-oriented design for them this time around. I like the idea that they can manifest in whatever form they choose, or in different forms for those who summon them.