Should EA start charging for crysis online play? Will it be less lag? Will there be better games?

Activision is all about the big bucks, not the game (EA is as well, but Activision is just cruel). And honestly, i don't think charging a monthly fee is a sane thought, for anything other than an large MMO. And the Xbox community would also roar big time, since it's should be consistent on every platform, which would mean thay they have to pay for LIVE and Crysis 2 imo..


And while i think about it.. I don't think EA can decide such a thing, since Crytek GmBH has partnered up with EA through EA Partners, which means that EA just publish the game and probably do some marketing, and let Crytek develop the game, that Crytek have the rights for, not like Activision and CoD.. I'm not sure, but at E3 they get presented as an "EA Partner", like the newly founded Respawn Entertainment.

HaHaHaHa, we PC players aren't paying for ****.

Couldn't edit my previous post.
But, i don't think that it's confirmed that Activision is going to charge to play Black Ops or anything ells Online yet (If it is, please link your source. Would love to see it).. I know Pachter has said the he think that they'll do it with Black Ops, and i think we all know how much Bobby Kotick wants to svck out every penny of your wallet, and he has also stated the he likes the general idea behind a monthly fee, or anything profitable post-launch.

If Crysis 2 is pay to play with a subscription, I simply would not buy it. I don't care how much i love Crytek and their games, I would not even touch the beta if that was the case. I'm not touching Codename Kingdoms and I would not touch Crysis 2 if it was pay to play.

I have to say, the cost of PC gaming, is quite enough as it is, electricty for the PC and TV, regular PC upgrades to keep it on form, actual game costs,
I also would never pay monthly subs. Never.

Any game that does this, would kill itself in short order.

[quote]I have to say, the cost of PC gaming, is quite enough as it is, electricty for the PC and TV, regular PC upgrades to keep it on form, actual game costs,
I also would never pay monthly subs. Never.

Any game that does this, would kill itself in short order.[/quote]

+100

HELL NO!

[quote]Any game that does this, would kill itself in short order.[/quote]
That theory is kind of void when taking WoW into consideration, as it earned $1Bn P.A. in revenue through 11.5Mn subscriptions.

[quote]No, I don't want to pay monthly to play a game that I have already paid for. I've also paid for my computer which uses electricity that I also pay for, and an internet connection that I also pay for to play the games that I have paid for, and now they want me to pay even MOAR?!?!? :'(

jk...

but a monthly fee would svck[/quote]

Exactly, although i play on PC so it is usually free, but i totally agree with you.

It is the gaming community that keeps their ideas aliive and helps make them their money. Crysis 1 is PC based and you can't have a Crysis 2 without a first one.

[quote]HaHaHaHa, we PC players aren't paying for ****.[/quote]

Indeed, if that happens new games will be so pirated they'll be telling stories about it in fifty years' time.

You have to remember that the Activision CEO isn't even a gamer, he's just a business man, with no ideologies of how the games industry runs/works.

Hence what he's done up to now.

PC gamers shouldn't even pay, most things are usually free for PC (Like in the old days when map packs were free). I think nowadays with the economy being hard hit, these publishers are trying to make money to keep them sustainable in the market.

Basically, let me sum it up:

Activision = Extremists.
EA = Near Extremists. But they think at least, and in most cases, they don't want to lose money, nor it's fanbase.

[quote]Should EA start charging for crysis online play? Will it be less lag? Will there be better games?[/quote]

no, no, and no.

[quote][quote]Any game that does this, would kill itself in short order.[/quote]



[/quote]I should have been a lot more precise, I was only giving my own opinion.
any game that wants me to pay a monthly sub, will kill itself as far as I am concerened, but you do make a very valid point, when you way up company balance sheets at year end, we are talking mega bucks, and I for one refuse to indulge, its costly enough.

My Nephew is into his WoW big time and subcribes anually, that way it is a saving for him, and if thats his wish to do so, then so be it.
but if the gaming industry wants to go in that direction as a whole, then thats me done.
just the way i feel,

i meant to say: and thats the price the publisher has to pay to keep the game relevant so CUSTOMERS (WE) will buy crysis 3.

This pay to play crap is for the developers to earn more money to make better games.. When they got the money they notice its quite a lot and make another pay to play game witch is not much better than the previous game. Also who really would pay MORE to play a darn game?

So NO!

does p2p mean less lag

What a stupid question. Do you want to pay to play? Yeh I love to pay. I would love to pay not every month I wnna pay every week, 50$ per week would be awesome, cant wait. Stupid question...

P2P is what COD:MW2 has. Hell, its horrible. If the host has a low connection, everyone will have a low connection in the match. It's really horrible. Dedicated servers are much more better.

Hence why PC gamers were angry/upset about MW2 not having dedicated servers.

I disgree that pay to play would bring in the bucks like Shinanigans said. This company can't even establish itself in the F2P market, so going after big titles like WoW would be stupid. P2P in an mmo makes a lot of sense because the game exists for 5-6 years, and the company can continue to support it in that timespan without worrying about the budget. After seeing Crytek fail at even F2P patch support over the last three years, I would not even dream of taking their word that P2P patching would be sufficient.

Look at it this way, in a loyal PC gamers monthly expenses:

Dedicated Server/Website/Voice Rent: about $80 a year per person in a clan
Internet Service Provider: $810 per year
The video game: $50
PC upgrades for one year: $300

Total: $1,240 to enjoy our video games, this is approximately. If you don't pay for a server or anything, consider that the electric bill. Quite honestly, that is one hell of a hefty price to enjoy our hobby. Adding on a subscription is rediculous. I for one, will not buy any game that makes me pay monthly. Even of that means leaving the industry altogether.

@Sahdev_92, Very true and that's also why i love Valve. They treat their community like gold. Free map packs etc..
That's also why i have so much grudge against Kotick, because the decisions he makes is going to affect the average gamer, and he won't even notice it, because his stocks just keeps growing. I was a huge CoD fan up until MW2, where they f..... us all over with IW.net.

But again, i don't think Crysis fans, like my self, should be worried about whether or not it's going to Pay-to-play because the Yerli brothers have hearts.. But again, if the insane idea should ever be implemented, the gaming community would speak up, and hopefully they will listen.

[quote]I disgree that pay to play would bring in the bucks like Shinanigans said. This company can't even establish itself in the F2P market, so going after big titles like WoW would be stupid. P2P in an mmo makes a lot of sense because the game exists for 5-6 years, and the company can continue to support it in that timespan without worrying about the budget. After seeing Crytek fail at even F2P patch support over the last three years, I would not even dream of taking their word that P2P patching would be sufficient.

Look at it this way, in a loyal PC gamers monthly expenses:

Dedicated Server/Website/Voice Rent: about $80 a year per person in a clan
Internet Service Provider: $810 per year
The video game: $50
PC upgrades for one year: $300

Total: $1,240 to enjoy our video games, this is approximately. If you don't pay for a server or anything, consider that the electric bill. Quite honestly, that is one hell of a hefty price to enjoy our hobby. Adding on a subscription is rediculous. I for one, will not buy any game that makes me pay monthly. Even of that means leaving the industry altogether.[/quote]+1
But as Shinanigans said, And I only Refer to WoW, they are making buck loads from people like my Nephew, well over and above good profit, but he just got addicted.
When he asked if I would consider the game I point blank refused, he couldn't understand why,.

Anyway, having said that, i'm going to take a bit of time away from here, if codbundy keeps posting at the current rate, even his older threads wont be on long enough to answer....

@Talon, i wasn't at all suggesting that a P2P Crysis could compete against WoW. I was correcting someone stating that 'any' P2P game will fail.

I would only consider P2P if the game was amazingly good with constantly excelent updates as well as tech support, this includes those getting the cash running constant professional servers for MP.

P2P should NEVER be a part of singleplayer, only multiplayer