While I see your point, this seems like an enforced game mechanic, only there to provide balance, which has no logical reason except 'the game says so'. Would rather have abusable enchanting, than an arbitrary limit that doesn't make sense.

Very much yes. I loved piecing together my armour in Morrowind, but it was all too simplified in Oblivion.

I said no to piecemeal armor. I do want more armor slots and would enjoy Pauldrons having a slot but not 2 seperate slots, I always thought this made characters look dumb in Morrowind.
The Slots I would like to see are Boots, Grieves, Belt, Curious, Pauldrons, Gloves, Helmit, and a coat or robe over the top and possibly pants and shirt under your armor to keep the cold metal off your skin

Dude you are missing some, and not splitting some correctly. Also having the slot available doesn't mean they need to be an armor slot in game, ala fallout, trust me, anyone who has designed 5+ outfits on fallout will know what I am saying. they can just end up cosmetic and purely extra geometry
rings
amulets
earrings
eyeglasses
hat
head
mask
+all the other fallouty ones I am missing, addon 1-3 etc

Hmm, general consensus seems to be that an armor system similar to the detail and variety offered in TESIII would be awesome (agreed).

Expanding this to a level where not only are there multiple armor slots (head, L/R pauldrons, greaves, etc.), but the ablility to layer these items would be grand. One thing I've always done purely for a roleplaying aspect is when I was on a mission which was meant to be secretive (say meet an informant, or what have you), I would wear a plain robe over my armor, in the unlikely event someone spotted me from a distance. I know the game mechanics don't work this way, but hey, I can indulge in gameplay fantasy. But yes, I understand technical issues like clipping etc., could be hard to tweak.

But imagine how defined and freaking cool you would feel to have your armor really personalised to your taste! And for those of you who can't be bothered with this type of detail, no problem, there could easily be a default state in which the complete armor set could be bought. It makes sense. Barbarians, a class that Nords typically excel at, may not have a complete, symmetrical set of armor. They may have a rusty old iron cuirass, furnished off with a good steel right pauldron for their sword arm which they stole from that dead merchant back down the road, and a fur left pauldron for the shield arm, finished off with a wolf skin draqed around their neck. A horned helmet, set of boots, maybe a loin cloth over the greaves, presto, one badass looking Nord Barbarian, customised to your taste.

Lastly, Bethesda, Mr. Howard, please, please, PLEASE bring back L/R pauldrons and gauntlets. Morrowind was an enormous success because there was so much detail. For example, from the myriad number of cool light sources you could hold/set in place (see the 'Lights' thread), to the fun task of completing a full set of Glass (hunting for that last missing pauldron) or mix 'n' match your own style (personal fav: Bonemold Helm, Gah-Julan Bonemold Pauldrons, Imperial Dragonscale Cuirass, finish off with standard Bonemold).

Detail makes a game. We have seen that in Morrowind, you only have to check out the forum discussions to see how many people really fell in love with that game. Details.

It would be great to have the option (like in Morrowind), but it's not that important.

To which I respectfully say to you, Sir:

Fair enough, but please give us pauldrons back. And let's be honest, this is an RPG, what looks to be like a brilliant RPG. Character customisation through aesthetics and gameplay are what make this game genre. Sure, you need a great story, terrific writing and lore, plus a beautiful world to quest in, but it all starts with you and your character. I say, don't hold back here.

I voted no because there is no such thing as piecemental armor.

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Same here. That, and already expressed my desire for piecemeal in the OP's other "Attack of the Clones" thread on the same subject: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1149607-piecemental-armour/

What is piecemental armor?

There's no such thing. The op has made like four threads about the same thing and keeps referring to it as piecemental. Several people have corrected him so I think he's doing it on purpose now.

If the enchantment points were limited on the smaller items, as they were in MW, there would be less of an issue. Pauldrons (shoulders) and Bracers (a simplified form of the word "vambraces") had extremely low enchantment potential, if I recall. The "one enchantment fits all" philosophy in OB took the basic problem and compounded it.

If Bethesda makes the armor and enchanting aspects of this next game make at least some semblance of sense, It'll at least provide me with some "mental peace", the closest we're likely to get to "piecemental".

Grammar error for piecemeal. I.e. greater amount of weapon/clothing slots and layering. Many felt it was unbalancing because of enchantment exploits.

I'm happy with 2 rings, an amulet, 5 peices of armor and maybe a cloak and hood for my a ranger. One thing I would like to see is Robes that go over Armor so we can have real Battle Mages again. To many peices of armor makes me think of clutter, thought I do like Pauldrons but not left and right, just as a single.

Or what UT3 does with the character customization, you have a single set of pauldrons, but you can make it have the left or right one only. Making a gladiator style look would be fun, and you can't do that with 2 big pauldrons.

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I would love to be able to select each individual piece of armour for my character. I loved wearing one large pauldron and then a smaller on on my other shoulder.

Anything that lets you have more customization for your character I am all for. I don't see why they took a step back with Oblivion in this regard, hopefully in Skyrim you can.

Yes, and you should also be able to to wear pants and a shirt under your armor and a cape/mantle over your armor.

I think a diplomatic answer would be to have these many armor slots available, but ingame make it easy to equip armor in sets or prechosen parts. Thus, for those who really want customisation to a high degree, you are able to mix and match, adjust etc., while those who aren't can simply opt to have matching pauldrons attached to their curiass, or some similar method. That way both sides are given the type of play they want. Not including armor slot variety only caters to those who prefer (for comparison) Oblivion style armor. By implementing armor variety you have the option of using it or not.

And yes to clothes underneath your armor, and a robe on top (where appropriate, of course).

Also, is it just me, or were people a tad disappointed with how armor looked in Oblivion? To me, wearing armor made you look chunky, there was no difference in body build/size. I think Skyrim allows you to adjust character size/body shap too? That must surely affect how armor looks on you. Oblivion, everyone looked like tin cans, same body shap. Not very appealing. Let's have a bit more veriety. Though that screenshot with the Nord/Barbarian fella on the mountain staring up at that dragon looks like he is wearing armor that fits better to his body.

My answer to this is the same as the one I answered in the duplicate/identical/copy thread by the same OP: I would like to have asymmetrical armour pieced together by choice.

How many of these threads are there? I've seen three by the same op? What is piecemental armor?

Oh hell yes. As one awesome individual earlier said, nothing was quite as rewarding as getting that one remaining piece to complete the set. Although a pair of boots would be fine, I'd like to see:

• Helmet
  
• Chestpiece
  
• Left Pauldren
  
• Right Pauldren
  
• Left Bracer
  
• Right Bracer
  
• Left Glove
  
• Right Glove
  
• Belt
  
• Greaves
  
• Left Shinguard
  
• Right Shinguard
  
• Boots

Just my opinion, though.

The general consensual by most posters is that OP meant 'piecemeal', basically piecing different parts of different armours together, like in Morrowind.

Why not throw in a left elbow pad, right elbow pad, left knee pad, right knee pad while we're at it?

I had considered those interchangable with the bracers and shinguards, respectively.