I really do hope it comes before the Infernal City. Afterall, I did read that Skyrim is supposed to be a "direct sequal to Oblivion", and 200 years after isn't exactly "direct" in my opinion. Besides, I don't think many people realize that Tamriel will be such a different place after 200 years. There's no Mages' Guild left for God's sake. And by now the Empire is probably back where it started where each province is it's own country. Not to mention Morrowind doesn't even really exist anymore. If it only took 45 years for Morrowind to go away, then maybe the whole Dunmer race will be gone by 200. Thanks a lot to Greg Keyes for abusing his right to make a book based off of the series, and then to take it as far as making it canon as well. Just great. God only knows what will happen in Part 2 of the Infernal City. Bethesda, in my opinion, has just succesfully thrown away all of it's wonderful lore that has taken many hours of thought from some brilliant guy over there, by accepting Greg Keyes's trash as canon. So let's only hope TESV comes before, so we don't have to think about it.

Can someone tell me what the HELL was the point of going through all that trouble to save Morrowind if it's just going to get obliterated a generation later. Some Nerevarine... ran off and let the Argonians take over Morrowind. What a terrible decision to let one no-name author single-handedly write such a huge effing huge scar into the lore of the Elderscrolls. I'm pissed.

Whats the point of having the books if they arent cannon?

Idk, I haven't read it.

I voted but.... i honestly don't see any way they could do that.... they announced the game as Skyrim... and it wouldn't really make sense to follow the events of a book that happened in cyrodiil and BlackMarsh, if the game is called skyrim

But... how do we know that Bethesda didn't tell the author what they wanted to happen? Maybe they told him that they wanted x, y, and z to happen, and he had to incorporate it into the story. I doubt they'd let his idea of a plot override everything else. In fact, they were probably working on Skyrim before/as he wrote TIC, so maybe certain things had to happen in TIC to make events in Skyrim line up.

Besides, that's pretty much what happens in history, both in the real world and in TES lore. Some hero saves the world... only to have another threat come up later.

However, I haven't played Morrowind, so maybe that's why I don't care as much.


(Of course, this is assuming that Skyrim takes place after TIC. If it's not, then my point is moot.)

The events in The Infernal City pertaining to Morrowind were inevitable. It was engrained in lore long before The Infernal City was written. As for the book, I really enjoyed it. It shows that Bethesda is not afraid to change and that the world of Tamriel is truly dynamic. People are just mad because it's Morrowind that got destroyed, and they want every successive entry in the series to take place there.

edit: Clearly Bethesda didn't just let Keyes write lore for the series without giving him any limitations; every single plot point in the novel was decided by Bethesda. :facepalm:

edit: No name author... really?

this is EXACTLY WHY VVARDENFELL WAS DESTROYED. if Keyes had destroyed, i don't know, Stros M'Kai or something, only a handful of people would've really cared, but he decided to bring on the Red Year and destroy a place all of us had come to call home for a pretty long time - and that's why it was such a remarkably powerful destruction. everybody's pissed off about it. it's great.

also it wasn't http://www.imperial-library.info/content/loveletter-fifth-era-true-purpose-tamriel.

also yes i do. i also sort of expect the CE of Skyrim to include a copy of the Infernal City, as well as perhaps the other upcoming TES novel.

The only thing in the novel that likely originated with the author is the Umbriel story (and even then, it would have had to pass Bethesda's approval). Everything else would have been stuff that Bethesda had told him had occurred by that point in the timeline.

I actually like the situation in Morrowind, it will add to the political climate, it will be fun to see how racist Dunmer adapt to being the outlander!

Not to be offensive but really???
Skyrim is part of the empire and is above morrowind. If there is a war in morrowind, then refugees would have fled to skyrim. war everywhere would make skyrim its own seperate city state. it possibly could even fracture it into smaller city states and need to be reformed you never truly know.

But judging by book reviews and how the book didnt come out till well after the development of the game started, i doubt it will be. Although i hop it is because the empire falling apart could mean a completly different kind of game

Why the hell wouldn't it????

isnt another book coming? a sequel to tic?

Do we know for sure that Skyrim will take place 200 years after Oblivion, or is it just speculation, since it said that in the front of TIC. I mean, Bethesda could've changed their plans by now, or whoever leaked that information could've gotten it mixed up.

It's got great lore and info on the world, but the story itself is only okay.

I agree. Keyes didn't decide to obliterate Vvardenfell by his lonesome. This was all planned out waaaay before Oblivion was even in the beginning stages of development. He had to write what the producers of The Elder Scrolls told him and if they said Vvardenfell had to go, then he had no choice but to make it go bye-bye.

It's sad, gut-wrenching which is EXACTLY what they wanted. Had they destroyed the province the Orcs hailed from, not a lot of folks (ie, me) would give a damn. No, they nuked Vvardenfell so now we want vengeance. We want whoever was responsible for Red Mountain erupting to pay dearly.

I suspect Skyrim will take place after The Infernal City. I wonder what the Morrowind part of the map will look like, if we're able to see it. How much of it survived, do you reckon?

This.

I haven't read the book, so I'm hoping that the plot of the game isn't going to involve major elements of the events in the book. That would be really confusing. I'd love to see a lot of lore that expands upon the book though; Ocato's failure to hold the Empire together, the Argonian secession, Mages Guild dissolution, Titus Mede's reign as Emperor etc.

Im kinda lol at the people who say they dont want it to be because they havent read the book C'mon guys Bethesda will fill it in on the first actual trailer or the inital cutscene your talking about bethesda here they love story telling

I hope they show Morrowind get Morrowned :celebration:

thems fighting words lol .

Honestly we all are up in arms because we did all the work to save the place, and called it home. Yeah ill miss it but im hoping for the world to change a bit gotta get some variety in the mix

What was the point of getting Germany back on its feet after WWI only for them to start [censored] other countries in WWII?

That would be godmodding (Having knowledge that you shouldn't). They are trying to create a dynamic world where stuff happens that some people don't like. Its not like Middleearth when after Frodo destroys the ring everyone lives happily ever after, prospering forever. That would just be stupid. I may not completely like what thy've done in TIC but I applaud them for trying to break away from teh "happily ever after" of other fantasy games/books.

I think if it is set after it will be fresh and interesting, and if not, they can repair the Empire for the next installment, reigning in the other countries (They are their own countries now not provinces )

In regards to Morrowind being taken over: The Argonians aren't going to cast spells all over the joint turning it into a swamp you know? The only difference will be an increase in Argonian settlers, some Argonian customs and maybe a few new Argonian designed towns, leaving the other towns be as they are.

Haha! I must object to your point on Lord of the Rings, even though that has nothing to do with what you were trying to say! Middle Earth was not happily ever after, the elves are going bye bye, which is sad, the race of Man is destined to rule, and men are easily corruptible, and while the movie makes it look like the orcs all dissappeared into a crack in the earth, there are still orcs out there. And also, Saruman took over the Shire while they were gone. And the dwarves are doomed to hang out in Middle Earth with humans on the rise. Sorry, just had to have my little Lord of the Rings rant there...

By the way, I added a question whether you guys liked the book or not, and I mean as a book, not considering that Vvardenfell went bye bye.

haha, well I don't know too much about LoTR, so sorry about that man lol. But my other points still stand. I hope they do it after TIC because it would be interesting and new.

About the book: I actually haven't read it ey, just the plot overview to play catch up. Looks ok-ish.

I would dig a flying potion also khajiit in all their birth forms from the moons phases. also I would like.... oh my god a potato!!!!!!!!!!!