You want Spear?

Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:38 pm

I'm guessing that the devs will hear us one day and put spears in the game. to do that we just have to say we want spears. so come here and say Do NOT only vote! that you want spears until they hear us.

some intereting stuff to be considered:

-Spears can contribute to make the gameplay more versatile because they are weapons with longer reach than any other weapons except ranged. Spears add a huge element to combat. You have a weapon which can be held one or two handed, and also thrown. It has the longest attacking distance of any melee weapon. It does primarily thrust damage, as opposed to axes, maces, and swords which are mixes of chop/crush/thrust.
They are fragile. So you can't just keep everything at bay forever, your spear will break. Also, you can't throw spears at everything because they weigh about 100x as much as an arrow, ie only 1 or 2 if you're using it as a missile weapon.

-Spears were historically used to hunt mammoths it should be logical that in a province were such animals exist, such historical fact would exist too.
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Leilene Nessel
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:50 am

Spears please.

Not having spears in a fantasy setting makes no sense.
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darnell waddington
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 6:52 am

As much as I'd like to have spears in the game, it just doesn't seem to be enough skills left for us to use spears with. 18 skills remember? Still, I votes Yes. As in Yes.
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Guinevere Wood
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:25 am

I am here and I want spears.
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Brooke Turner
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:56 pm

I'll cry if they don't put spears back in solely because everyday I log onto this forum, there's at least 2 new threads begging for spears or polearms. Don't get me wrong, I like the variety, but the want for spears is out of control. I want my tantos and throwing stars back.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:26 am

Spears please.

Not having spears in a fantasy setting makes no sense.


On top of that they can actualy have gameplay diffenrences compared to swords axes and hammers since they have a longer reach


@gorbad if the skills are devided one handed and two handed then spears are two handed weapons
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 10:01 am

Guaranteed one-trillion replies - all yes.
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Post » Mon May 16, 2011 11:43 pm

I think it would be much more productive to write a post with reasonable points why you want spears. If I was a developer and my fans kept crying "spears", for me to be truly interested I would need to kindle the desire to have spears in my game too. So why have spears? What are the value of spears? Throughout history how have spears been used in warfare and how do they compare to other weaponry? Do they work well with small groups or solo warriors? What is the practical use of spears?

Screaming for popular opinion isn't a good way to be heard. You need more reasoning.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 10:36 am

I think it would be much more productive to write a post with reasonable points why you want spears. If I was a developer and my fans kept crying "spears", for me to be truly interested I would need to kindle the desire to have spears in my game too. So why have spears? What are the value of spears? Throughout history how have spears been used in warfare and how do they compare to other weaponry? Do they work well with small groups or solo warriors? What is the practical use of spears?

Screaming for popular opinion isn't a good way to be heard. You need more reasoning.


then add something and i will add it to the OP
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 6:45 am

I think it would be much more productive to write a post with reasonable points why you want spears. If I was a developer and my fans kept crying "spears", for me to be truly interested I would need to kindle the desire to have spears in my game too. So why have spears? What are the value of spears? Throughout history how have spears been used in warfare and how do they compare to other weaponry? Do they work well with small groups or solo warriors? What is the practical use of spears?

Screaming for popular opinion isn't a good way to be heard. You need more reasoning.

We've had plenty of reasonings in past threads.

Most are obvious, and if you cannot see that well.......sorry for you.

But here are some reasons:

Spears - ranged combat for melee players.

My last reason: SPEARS!?!

More RPing opportunities.

Might be useful for meleers in air dragon fights. pretty much the first reason I stated.

Spears are part of all recognizeable weaponry from the medieval times.

If we have mounted combat(probably not) spears could get a good damage bonus from this.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 10:33 am

then add something and i will add it to the OP

Honestly those are questions even I would like the answer to. I am sure there is a practical use for spears since they were invented and used by real warriors, but I am not privy to why. I think if you, that is plural in all of you who want spears, would like to see this element in the game than you should bring your debate to the table with more structure and reasonableness. You may be heard then :)

I will say that personally I know very little as to how spears were used in real warfare, but the movie Troy sure makes throwing spears at enemies look cool :)
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:44 am

yes i want spears. its fun, they look cool and adds more diversity to the game.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 5:41 am

SPEARS YEAAAHHH!!!1!1!!!one!!

Seriously though, if they're not in now already they won't be in until TES VI at least. And they know how much people want them so I don't see the point in creating a new thread with a poll for it every single day that 99% of the people vote yes for. :brokencomputer:
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:08 am

So why have spears? What are the value of spears? Throughout history how have spears been used in warfare and how do they compare to other weaponry? Do they work well with small groups or solo warriors? What is the practical use of spears?

Screaming for popular opinion isn't a good way to be heard. You need more reasoning.


We're here! For Spears! Get used to it!

Okay, for real.

Spears add a huge element to combat. You have a weapon which can be held one or two handed, and also thrown. It has the longest attacking distance of any melee weapon. It does primarily thrust damage, as opposed to axes, maces, and swords which are mixes of chop/crush/thrust.

They are fragile. So you can't just keep everything at bay forever, your spear will break. Also, you can't throw spears at everything because they weigh about 100x as much as an arrow, ie only 1 or 2 if you're using it as a missile weapon.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:30 am

SPEARS YEAAAHHH!!!1!1!!!one!!

Seriously though, if they're not in now already they won't be in until TES VI at least. And they know how much people want them so I don't see the point in creating a new thread with a poll for it every single day that 99% of the people vote yes for. :brokencomputer:

to keep the thread up and let it reach tons of answers because thats how you make your point being seen by the developers.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 11:29 am

I want all kinds of spears; short, long, Bitneys, throwing. All of them!
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:49 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:55 pm

to keep the thread up and let it reach tons of answers because thats how you make your point being seen by the developers.

Trust me, they know about our stance on spears, they've known since Oblivion.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:50 am

Trust me, they know about our stance on spears, they've known since Oblivion.

yup and we will keep pushing.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 9:17 am

On top of that they can actualy have gameplay diffenrences compared to swords axes and hammers since they have a longer reach


@gorbad if the skills are devided one handed and two handed then spears are two handed weapons

Why would they do that? Can't a dagger be hold in two hands and a battle axe in one hand? :blink:
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:41 am

We're here! For Spears! Get used to it!

Okay, for real.

Spears add a huge element to combat. You have a weapon which can be held one or two handed, and also thrown. It has the longest attacking distance of any melee weapon. It does primarily thrust damage, as opposed to axes, maces, and swords which are mixes of chop/crush/thrust.

They are fragile. So you can't just keep everything at bay forever, your spear will break. Also, you can't throw spears at everything because they weigh about 100x as much as an arrow, ie only 1 or 2 if you're using it as a missile weapon.

See this is good reasoning. Even if the information isn't comprehensive, describing why you want spears in this way by giving some information about them makes your voice count for something when debating.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:06 am

As much as I'd like to have spears in the game, it just doesn't seem to be enough skills left for us to use spears with. 18 skills remember? Still, I votes Yes. As in Yes.

Couldn't spears fall into the Two-Handed weapon skill?

The bigger question is if they could pull it off from a gameplay perspective. With a renewed focus on combat, they would have to spend considerable resources developing something believable for spears. Todd talks about how combat "feels" in your hands. Combat with spears seems to be much different than with swung weapons (blades, maces, axes). So if I was on Todd's team, I'd be thinking about how to make use of such a different weapon "feel" as realistic as other weapons in the new combat system and if that is possible, what resources would it take. Thrusting polearms "feels" much different than swinging an edged weapon. But maybe halberds are more similar??

All of that said, I think Beth is well aware of the communities' desire to see spears back so we'll see!
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:14 pm

YESH! Spears!

Without the addition of spears... how I'm supposed to poke NPCs in Skyrim? A sword doesn't do the job properly... it's not long and pointy enough!
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:50 pm

They are fragile. So you can't just keep everything at bay forever, your spear will break. Also, you can't throw spears at everything because they weigh about 100x as much as an arrow, ie only 1 or 2 if you're using it as a missile weapon.

Or maybe we can. Include a perk which requires you to use the new sprint feature for momentum for the launch. They were stressing about using perks to bringing uniqueness to various weapons after all.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:37 am

Why would they do that? Can't a dagger be hold in two hands and a battle axe in one hand? :blink:

if you've seen the combat update on GI you can observe that they talk about one-handed skills and not about blade skills or whatever other skills.
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