no at that high, maybe an arrow or a spell but not a spear my friend



im disagree, i prefeer few weapons but well developed

Actually in a Elderscrolls game I would use a Spell for extreem rainge, a Bow for medium and what ever the Frost equivelent of flamethrower is.
I would never waist my time with a spear. I didn't in Morrowind and I would not bother in Skyrim if they were included

Maybe we could tie a bunch of spears together?

Well would you mind if they took out bows and swords but added spears and flails? I would like it... Swords are lame anyway... and if bows have an automatic thing in the middle of your screen showing you exactly were your arrow will land with no randomastion at all then we might as well just get snipers instead....

Actually, in Oblivion, arrows had an arch. You had to fire above your target.

I assume it will be in Skyrim as well.

i prefeer the most feared magic arrow impregnated of the more carefully crafted poison, right in his wind... once in land is time for the old fashion style of sword and shield combat.

I can't say spears are superior for fighting dragons...I actually have a hard time imagining any mundane melee weapon that really gives you a chance with the style of dragon we will be seeing.

But for mammoths, bears, wolves, sabertooth tigers, I can't imagine a more useful or necessary weapon.

KA-ME-HA-ME-HAAAAAAAA!

no spears, I don't mind...

1. Spear is something used only by animal hunters (your player is not an animal hunter), city guard to quell mobs (your character is not a city guard with a holy mission to fight mobs of rebellions with his comrades) and soldiers on battlefield (you will not be member of 5th Imperial Spear Infantry Division)... and even the mentioned would throw the spear and take the shortsword if you managed to get too close. You do not use a ****ing spear in other situations. The other weapons are used in adventurous situations
2. Spear is more popular then weapons about which half of human population doesn't know and least popular of the known weapons. Guess which weapons would get priority in game development
3. Spears would mean developing a completely new combat system just for that which would mean a huge waste of resources... resources which are better used elsewhere

Yeah, sure, that's all well and good but. What do you think your whining actually achieves, beyond irritating the rest of us? Let it go already. Either come to terms with Skyrim lacking spears, or don't buy it, because having a sook about it will not change things.

"so if you were fighting an airborn creature... logically you would use a SPEAR"

If I were fighting a flying creature, which logically could fly beyond the reach of even a long spear...logically I would use some form of RANGED ATTACK. :rolleyes:



Pretty fair description of your own post there. Just sayin'...

I disagree with this mentality. It is defeatist. They dropped spears in Oblivion. As soon as we heard this, we complained. Oh, how we complained. Some of us thought they'd patch them in, but most of us realized this round was over.

Then Oblivion came out. We began speculating about what the next game would be like. Surely, we thought, after how we begged, pleaded, argued, and petitioned, they MUST have put spears into TES V.

Now, everything we've heard points to once again traversing Tamriel with no spears. But we will continue to ask for spears until they are put into the game. Of course we will play it without them, but we will not be truly happy.

So Beth has two options. Continue to ignore spears, and alienate the people that want them, annoying everyone around them, or make the game so bad that we don't want to play it regardless of what weapons are in the game. The way I see it, you should join us and say "Todd! Give them spears already! They're driving us crazaaaaaaaaay!"

i think that people are missing the obvious. normal spells and weapons shouldnt hurt a dragon. their skin is supposed to be like armor and they are HUGE. one of my biggest concerns with this game is that i can run up to a giant that is several times my mass or a dragon that is not only way bigger than me but covered in scaly armor and just whack him to death with my axe or shoot a few spells at him to kill him. for both of those enemies it had better take a long long long long long long time and i mean at least half an hour to do it that way. with dragons im hoping that dragon shouts are their achilles heal and with the giants i want either a weak spot that you have to target and then land a killing blow or use the environment ala dark messiah.

When I see people attack dragons in movies, they usually use bow-and-arrows and sometimes large mounted crossbows, not spears.

I would say yes to spears because no man would hunt an animal with a sword the spear could add a throwing capability and would be better than a axe due to its piercing quality. of corse there is the bow but what happens when it lands on top of you are are you going to have a a bow os a spaer to do a heroic stab to the chest thing before your crushed?

I get that a lot...

Yeah of course dude... you'd use a long-ass wooden stick with the tip as large as a butter knife to try tu hurt something that has scales that can resist impacts that would blow up a city wall...
I think you deserve a standing ovation... :shakehead:

seriously, if you want to hurt a dragon without cutting it's throat or getting to its heart, you either need some REALLY powerful magic, or some intensely high level of precision, to hit UNDER the scales. that kind of precision would NEVER be achieved with a spear. NEVER :facepalm:

Also, let's admit it, with the aveage motion you would realistically use a spear for, you can't really apply a lot of strength to it....

Seriosuly, stop it with the spear threads. they're probably the most boring weapons ever made. there's realistically no reason to do anything but poking with them, and poking is only frustrating. "oh look! I'm so good! I'm using a weapon 3 times my size, and I keep even the most powerful enemy away, because the system doesn't allow us to do the one move everyone would do when faced with a spear-weilding foe!"

And anyways, these weapons were used to 1 - break the defense of the front line in full frontal assaults and 2 - get rid of the cavalry.
Bringing a spear to an actual fight can only give two results: a )if the guy can't use his head, he'll be afriad and never get close or B ) if he CAN use his head, as soon as you strike he'd get it out of the way and get rid of you fast.

So please, before asking for an over-hyped weapon in the game, at least check out if it would be useful considering most of the encounters you get in ES games... :down:

I did see this one scene where the people were fighting off a dragon, but they were out of arrows and all they had was a few spears. ...they didn't make it.

nuff said

besides valkyrie are depicted with spears and its the weapon you get from the hunting deadra in blood moon. another point is that its the most basic and effective of melee weapons being the first used for hunting and having the ability to keep foes at a distance altho having said that I can see why they did not include the due to having to have creatures and warriors reacting to your added reach and the animations for smacking them out of the way.

yes, a spear, not I can finally kill the moon
a bow is a more logical choice also you have magic, and dragons will land and fight you

Which pretty much answers any questions about dragons' intellect! :rimshot:

:D

If the thing really wanted to fight it would have to follow me indoors. It would have too much advantage outside. Then I'd summon something to distract it while I filled it full of arrows.

well actually in the event of an enemy breaching your defenses you would use its mas to bumble the enamy then you would drop it and attack. also you should not dismiss peoples ideas so quickly you should be honored that someone would like to discuss thing with you.

hey birds land and the only way they would be able to attack you from the sky would be fire and some other dragonshouts

Spears are not the most boring weapon ever made. That would be a club. Spears can be used a dozen different ways. You can poke, or slash, or bash, or throw.
If the system doesn't allow for moves that would be used against a spear wielding foe, then fix the system. Make spears fragile. Make them unable to attack anyone under 2 feet away.

So please, before denying the usefulness of an underused weapon, at least check out actual instances of one on one fighting where that weapon is used.