So your saying the only proper way to fight a dragon is with a spear. Right... right.... :blink:

How about you run to an area where he can't fly and use some good old tactics? Or why don't you pick up a bow and start shooting away... Hmmmm no?
Ok learn some arcane and start blasting him with magical bolts of sit down.

Honestly though I think Skyrim is going to be such a diffrent game (better) that when it comes out and we compare it with past TES games it's pretty much going to be on a whole nother level. I mean they have a new ENGINE this should tell you alot right there.. Multiple dragons on 1 screen?? That right there says We can probably see small armies of NPCs going against each other.

So if you were fighting an airborn creature... logically you would use an ANTI-AIR MISSILES

I can't believe that people still nag about spears... It's just a pointy stick that you throw.

You forgot Rock though. Stone Edge FTW!

edit: whoops, didn't read the "spell" part of the sentence. Well I guess a meager Power Gem or a Hidden Power: Rock might get the job done.

yes, spears..mankind used them for thousands of years, and then they discoverd swords and never looked back.,..I wonder why?

Actually, fighting a flying creature, I think I'd rather go with a bow or some other means of ranged attack, because then you can attack it while flying, with a spear, you can only hit it when it comes down to attack you, at which point, you'd be put at risk yourself.

Of course, flying up to where it is myself also works [hint]levitation[/hint].

But it's not like it matters, if we're not getting spears, we're not getting spears, complaining about how illogical it is not to have them isn't going to change that. To be fair, you might argue that it would convince Bethesda to add them to an expansion or a future game, or maybe even to Skyrim, but I doubt the last one will happen. If they can't get them done satisfactorily for Skyrim, then they won't be added, that's what Todd said in the pod cast, and complaining about their absence isn't going to make them magically get done in a way Bethesda feels is worth including in the game.

So if you were fighting an airborn creature... logically you would use a bow.

Well he said we weren't getting spears "in the classical sense". so i think he's implying that we're getting some pole-arm, but like so many others i might just be too optimistic.

Haha. Immersion.


Don't care about spears. Nor did anyone else, when they were there. People only cared and pretended to have used them once they were gone.

My existence is a lie, then.

The same thing non-adventurer types did in both Morrowind and Oblivion. End up dead, most times. And that was fighting *anything*, forget about dragons. That one really annoying traveling npc who threatened to kill you any time you passed near him? If I didn't snipe him to play the DB, I usually found him dead from bandit, wolf, bear, Will-o-the-Wisp, imps, or trolls standing over the body. Forget about the stronger enemies. "Normal" npcs are extremely squishy.

one thing i dont get is... why do they leave spears out... and leave both axes and hammers in?

i mean, axes and hammers were basically the same weapons with different looks, even more so in oblivion...

because, afterall... axes are a BLUNT weapon!

well, whatever... im just gonna be using a claymore most likely, anyway.

hopefully they have some badass looking claymores.

That's a javelin.

When fighting a huge fire spitting dragon you logically run away.

I really don't understand the complaint. Spears weren't in Oblivion either, and they were a pretty forgettable weapon type to a lot of people in Morrowind. Get over it, there are plenty of better things to use.

That's what the girls at my school said yesterday. It didn't work.

Well we al know how http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPntwvkoH7I guy gets along with just a sword- even though he doesn't remember to trap the dragons soul at the end. My point = proven. :angel:

On the other hand, http://i.blogs.indiewire.com/images/blogs/spout/archives/dragonslayer.jpg guy was just fine with a spear.
Of course, his spear could even cut through iron and he had magikhul powarhrs, but yeah...

Fixed link: http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1549/dragonshoutfeaturedjpg1.jpg

OMG look everybody, spears are in!!!

Axes and hammers are as different from each other as quarterstaffs and spears.
An axe is sharp, you cut down things with it. A hammer is blunt, you crush things with it.

Erm, I'll give you the benefit of a doubt, but this really seems like a troll post.

If I was fighting an airborne creature, I'd use whatever I had available. In fact, I used a BOW.

Removal of spears is not a severe breach of immersion. Bugs, load screens, etc. are severe breaches. In fact, what what so many seem to be immersion breakers are really minor. Of course that's just my opinion.

Not having spears was apparently logical to some, perhaps due to development process, cost of implementation, lack of use, limited resources.

Finally, If I was really going to fight some airborne, I'd offer beer, scantily clad opposite genders, and a 3-day pass :gun:

There is no better feeling in the world than being there when someone realises that doesn't work in real life...it's glorious, you can see their entire lives shatter in their eyes.

^THIS^

It made sense for the Cliff Racers, as they had to us melee attacks. Dragons on the other hand can kill from a range, ergo a spear would be usless compared to a bow or magic. It's like fighting an archer on top of a tower with a spear.

Hey guys ever heard about a thing called a bow? or a fireball?

Oh man, who necro'd this?