Morrowinds theme, After becomeing the incarnate, It gives it a whole new feeling

I wish people would decide based on the quality of the music and the composition rather than familiarity and nostalgia. Morrowind as nice of a theme as it was, was too simplistic for my taste, and wholly repetitious. There is no guarantee that the theme for Skyrim IS the official theme of Skyrim, it could just have been for the teaser in which case I have nothing to say about it..yet. Oblivion wins it for me as far as subtlety and quality of composition. Far more of a dynamic OST that either of those two.

I bet you can't come up with one good reason why he's not that great. Opinions can be stupid and unsupported lead by emotion or ignorance rather than reason.

Favorite doesn't always mean quality mate.

A tie between Morrowind and Skyrim.

Well let me rephrase what I wrote then. For what reason other than familiarity and nostalgia is Morrowind a preferred favorite? How are people deciding what their favorite theme is?

Yeah...

I just can't tell if it's nostalgia that makes me prefer Morrowind. Morrowind's theme is calm and relaxing, Skyrim's is more exciting and adrenaline-pumping. Oblivion's theme is good, just not that good.

Morrowind will always be my favorite theme to any game. The unknowning sense of what to expect it gives you, the pure nostalgia slap in the face it gives you, and the wonderful softness but at the same time being one of the most powerful songs I've heard. They couldn't have made the theme any better then it is (well, they could have made it longer).

The skyrim theme, I actually catch myself singing to it. WIth the right lyrics of course. :tongue:

For our King, Dovahkiin, for a single Skyrim.
For our land, for our home, for the Hrothgar's blood.
As we look to the gods, for their sole single son.
Dvohakin, our king, who'll dawn with fire.

Well in that case I like morrowind because its a much simpler tune than say oblivion's. Oblivion's is a bit faster paced while Morrowind's more laid back. Still a little hard to make this decision without nostalgia playing a part, for me anyways.

I still like Morrowind's

Every time I hear it it's like a nostalgia bomb, and brings back those good memories.

Fair enough. But Oblivion takes both approaches. It starts out fast paced and ends more "laid back" and relaxing. I like those two dynamics in music and it works well with the game because of the dichotomy present, i.e. Cyrodill(good) vs Oblivion(evil). I think a lot more thought went into the Oblivion main theme than either of those other two..but that's just me.

Definitely Morrowind!

It seems someone can't handle the fact that there are people who simply don't like Soule's work. I honestly can't believe you're asking me to come up with a good reason why I don't like a particular composer's music. MUSIC, that's the key word. It's entirely subjective. I don't like Soule's work because I simply don't like it. That's all there is to it. If you must know more than that, I think the majority of his music is boring, bland, uninspired, I've heard it all before in a million other places, etc.

Oh, and by the way, when it comes to music, opinions lead by emotion are all that really count. You can't approach music from logic -- "Well, you're wrong, you see? It's impossible for someone to not like Jeremy Soule's work because of this, this, and this!" :facepalm:

I really like Skyrim's, from what I've heard so far. I'm going to go with that one.

Its not a damn rip off of Morrowind's! Its a completely different song that was built off of the theme they made for Morrowind.

I personally didn't like the themes(Go ahead and flame, i got 100% fire shield :disguise:), I replaced Oblivions pretty soon, and just blow through Morrowind's title screen.
But I'd say Oblivion, for the sake of stying within the poll.

Simply not liking because you don't like it is a cop-out and tells me your opinion is not much of one at all. Take this example:

Subject A: I don't like Lions

Subject B: Why not I think they are fascinating creatures.

Subject A: Oh because..I just don't.

Subject B: Err...

Bland, heard it in a million different places? Please provide examples.

So you would argue that quality is subjective? Music is anolyzed by chords, tones, pitch, and progression. Meaning if music meets or exceeds those standards it is considered good. Otherwise it is not..regardless if you think differently. I would like you to prove logically that quality music is subjective.


Btw, you can recognize something as quality but not necessarily like it. For example there are many incredible things people do that I don't particularly care about. Golf for example..could care less that Tiger Woods is a master golfer, but I'm not blind to recognize that he is very talented.

I have an overwhelming sense of nostalgia every time I hear Nerevar Rising.

You know, the thing about that is that it's not a cop-out at all.

Yes, I absolutely would argue that "quality," as you say, is entirely subjective in regard to music. You're proposed logic is absolutely illogical. Yes, music may be anolyzed and broken down into it's melodies, harmonies, chord progressions, etc., but not in order to determine if it magically meets some set of arbitrary standards and is 'good music' or 'bad music.' Music is about emotion, feeling, connecting to the listener, etc. If music achieves these things, then it is good.

I never said that Jeremy Soule's work isn't "quality." I said I didn't like it. These are two different statements.

Now, this has gone on for long enough, and is already quite off-topic. I'll not continue this discussion in this thread (though if you feel you absolutely must continue, PM me).

Yes it is a cop-out, and in fact that response was a cop-out you entirely ignored what I posted.

Those standards you mention feeling, emotion, and connection are all achieved through melodies, harmonies, and chord progression. A slow tempo piano medley with the intent of coming across as sad will most likely make you feel sad. There certainly is a logic to it. Variation and changing pitch and tempo can be seen as evoking "feeling" or "soul". If you break it all down to its roots you will see that quality can in fact be quantified. Meaning you can differentiate between good and bad based on how well it performs in those criteria.

You said that his music isn't good not that you don't like it. Not liking and saying his music svcks are also two different things. Also like I said just because you don't like his music doesn't make him any less of a composer.

Skyrim is definitely my favourite, followed by Morrowind, but its not even close. Skyrim has a killer theme. The chanting is effing epic, gives me goosebumps. Hell, it makes ME want to play a Nord barbarian, and I'm a girly girl who always plays pure mages.

^ This. I voted Skyrim in the end though, that Choir gets me every time.
^_^

Here's a good video with almost all the Elder Scrolls titles included

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ_bkygS2FI&feature=related

Morrowind, but skyrim is a suprisingly close second