Reason I ask is, because whenever I have tried to install a body mod it has caused nothing but errors upon errors, so if anyone could suggest a very and I mean very detailed instruction guide or mod i'd appreciate it

I also used to use darn UI but would like to see peoples opinions and links to their personal favorites, thanks guys.

What manner of "errors"?

body mod= i use HGEC currently and with body seam reducer it's perfect, also has large support for many big mods(eg. fcom).but i'm keeping an eye on TGND which has a way more natural look and is beautiful but it's still "young" so it will take some time to get as large support as hgec
for ui i've always used darn and i will keep using.best ui ever.

yea but the thing that has kept me away from body mods is, don't you have to find support for it for every single mod that adds new armors, or rather something all together? I'm pretty ignorant on matters concerning body mods, beautification as well (Also looking for a good beauty mod, oblivions bland faces have looong bored me )

HGEC has tons of support for it. The body mod itself is perfectly stable and is about 90% compatible with everything else. 9.9% of the incompatibility is due to other body mods...so that leaves like .1% of incompatibility with something else (which I have yet to come across, but I will not doubt it is out there).
There might not be strong support for the armors MADE for the body, but, there is a sea of armor for it, so if one armor doesn't work, I can guarentee you can find another, better set out there. Plus, I believe HGEC is the only body replacers as of right now that has a total vanilla armor conversion to fit the HGEC. Check out EVEHGEC, ever clothing, armor, and so forth in the game is fit for the body!

Lastly, DarNified and Dark DarNified (not compatible when ran together - duh) are completely stable as well and rarely ever have I encountered problems with it. Usually the errors were because of my own mistakes. Using OBMM to install both these mods are easy to get them to work right in the game with no sweat, no blood, no tears (because that was already put into the mod to make it so that way there would be none for the users).

BTW: I run both together, no problems.

Only if you want the armor to look as though it fit the body type - if you don't mind vanilla looking armor hanging on an HGEC waif then you are ok.

Body mods are a source of great complexity requiring more time to look at all the parts available than you might at first think. Incompatibilities though are rarely game breaking to the point of ctds and such.

Roberts male 4 is the standard.
for female the EVE compilation or Roberts female have the most compatibility.

No links allowed to any mod with nudity in the link.

But it goes on from there. Skin replacers, head mesh replacers, tail replacers, skeleton replacers ... on and on.

there are many mods for HGEC. EVE HGEC Eyecandy Variants has most of armors from vanilla(si+kotn),fcom and fcom supported mods "hgeced". Just search for HGEC on tesnexus and you will find plenty(though many are skimpy-manga types ) of armor mods
for npc beautification: http://www.dreamingthepyramid.net/TNR-home.html just make sure u dont really activate mod, you just need to import faces from it with bashed patch

Thanks alot for all the replies, I will try them out.

Is there a good site that has a guide to what to get and how to install?

No. Virtually every body mod has that - HGEC, TGND, TFF, Robert's male (and probably female), BAB, etc.

How to install?

Need experience level - nah - forget that - the best installer for Oblivion (and Fallout 3 and Morrowind) is Wrye Bash BAIN installer. I wrote a whole http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1084204-bain-mod-installation-projects/ (actually 2).

Eve comes BAIN ready ... and here is http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1084204-bain-mod-installation-projects/page__view__findpost__p__15840792 about my conversion of Roberts male to BAIN. Tomlong even did one (somewhere) about adding in the Roberts 5 stuff too.

My experience is that Body mods are often the worse packaged mods there are and by extension can be the most frustrating to install.

There are a couple of "problems" with HGEC:

There are over a dozen variations (not including the original Exnem) so even though you use the EVE version and install the C cup you might install a mod and suddenly end up with a H cup when you try the (new) gear on. :blink:

I don't know if the other body mods have the same problem, but HGEC attracts a lot of modders who make showmanship pieces. Pretty to look at, but for me giving up three enchantment slots (body/legs/hands/feet all combined into one) isn't a good trade off.

(I won't even use robes due to the slot loss...)

I always prefer the more realistically shaped bodies so TGND looks good!

Which is also why I use Type V for FO3.

The EVE compilation is fine on its own and does not have this issue that I'm aware of.

In fact I'm kind of dumbfounded by what you wrote - are we talking about Vanilla clothes and things like included in FCOM like overhauls, or are you talking about custom made armor/clothes that require whole other esp. If so then yes I agree but before I would worry about a body slot for a robe I would never get that far for not wanting to use a esp slot for it to begin with.

I think he talks about those 1-piece armors .

Robert's Male Body is a godsend.

IMHO, TGND is the best female body mod. And yes, comes with a full conversion of clothing/armor from original game. Other armors/clothing come as people have time to convert them. Roberts for male.

I use Darn UI.

Best UI Mod: http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=11280

Tail replacers? :blink: I don't remember ever seeing any.

There's a few. I did one for khajiit, tabaxi, and argonians so that the tail actually comes from the tailbone and not from between the buttcheeks, for instance.

Original Dark UI by DarkBirdy - I love the color. I was disappointed when I found that DarkUIdDarn was off a few shades, and the pattern was not as much to my liking either.

1. 'I don't know if the other body mods have the same problem'.... Other body mods can have this problem, since in Oblivion(and Fallout 3), clothing/armor meshes replace corresponding body meshes literally. Though others do not have many variants as EyeCandy body does(Robert's Male body has some variants like slender, average, muscular, and some modder made variants of Robert's Female body).

2. Although the whole outfit is not so-good-trade-off for enchanting slot, if you're using OBSE and multi-enchantment mod, it doesn't matter so much(If you're not, it really does matter). Another thing is, some modders use his/her own customized mesh for clothes/armor making, and some may be incompatible with 'standard' mesh, making mixing-and-matching hard(namely issues about clipping and gaps between body parts).

Well if it is ever one piece and I don't like that fact, I change it myself. Actually, I got sick of having 200 (exageration for those with a thick skull) clothign and armor .esps and I just made one mod that puts all those .esp in one spot. I got about the manual way of combining .esps...by not literally combining the .esp but taking the meshes and textures and applying them in my mod's esp. This way, when I am reassigning the armor/clothing stats I can tell it how many slots it takes. It takes less than a minute, and you will find most modelers package their meshes/textures pretty much the same, so it is easy to locate where they hide their meshes to assign it to the new model.

well since my thread is still going on...

How do I know if HGEC is working?

I installed it via omod, load up oblivion but it doesnt seem like the test female char i'm making has it...

(no i'm not a pervert, but I did undress her just to test)

And yea its not workin it seems, because she has a bra and underwear on, the vanilla kind

Do you have a multi-enchantment mod that works? I mean, one that would allow four equivalent enchantments if a piece of gear took up four slots?



I've tried, but I have to admit I svck at Blender.



Yes, external esps. EVE itself doesn't have this issue.

Odd. the OMOD should do the trick just fine.
Right click on the HGEC Body 1.21 file in OBMM, and select "info"
Does it have a list of [Currently installed data files]? There should be about 30 listed. And if you have those, unless some other mod is overriding it somehow, the new body should show up in game.

And/or you should try out the "EVE HGEC Eyecandy Variants Expansion" mod. That has all the body textures as well, so that too should achieve much the same ends by itself (as well as giving you the HGEC clothing and armour to boot!