Now I wonder if I'll actually notice the difference considering I already just one-hit everyone or get one-hitted myself. I'll probably have to reduce some damage, but it might end up being worth it. Or maybe I'll just make a new character that's less of a glass cannon than my current one.

Has no depth and is extremely http://youtu.be/HnfLdsxUDbM?t=55s to one style at a time, unless you like pausing multiple times.

While it is better, by A LOT, I think it's safe to say some side-steps and weapon disarming(not using the shout) even just these little things would help. As well as the ability touse hit detection to slice at a bandit's exposed leg and make him fall on knee would be great as well.

You literally click your mouse.

FFS, even Oblivion combat required more thought because it was common place that blocking would stagger them for a moment whereas you hitting a blocking enemy might do the same to you, and of course one stagger could lead to another due to the agility stat factoring if a weapon staggered you or not. You'd often find that you'd maybe have a moment of pure block vs. block as both you and the opponent look for an opening or window or try to bait one by lowering their guard.

Skyrim? You get staggered? IT'S K YOU CAN STILL SWING YOUR SWORD AT THEIR FEET, THE ONLY PUNISHMENT IS OMG WOBBLY CAMERA!!

Skyrim? You hit a blocked shield? IT'S K KEEP WAILING ON IT, YOU'RE JUST DAMAGING HIM SLOWER BUT THERE'S NO PUNISHMENT!

There's no thought involved with the combat whatsoever beyond clicking your mouse. Yes, shield-bashing also comes into play, but the problem is that you can literally control your enemy 100% between just spamming hits and shield bashing; there's no risk on your end whatsoever, no way to fail, no way to earn punishment. Skyrim controls like a hack-n-slash but it ISN'T a hack-n-slash, which just amounts to incredibly piss-poor and lackluster combat.

I like the combat in Skyrim.
It's not got the best combat ever but it does have the best TES combat. On Morrowind I hate swinging a sword 50 times just to kill something that can die in 1 hit.

Could be used to sum up the entire game to be honest.

How many hours have you put into Skyrim?

Swimmingly Sir.

All I want now is a lore-friendly version of Lincoln's Repeater and it's on.

Sheograth's blunderbus that shoots flipping bears out the end. That is if course if you can load, bring to bear (ho ho) aim the blinking thing.

Failing that, i would settle for Meridia's 9mm.

It's the best in the series. Sad, isn't it?


Correction: best looking but with no depth. Like the whole game, really.


2314.
Thank goodness for mods


I use "half-assed", but "incomplete" would be a better word since it's less provocative.

I could not agree more, the entirety of Skyrim feels incomplete.

Exactly. Nothing dumber than being able to wail your weapon on a guy's shield and no punishment whatsoever to you. At least make the Player make a painful yell and stagger and not be able to attack for a couple seconds(you just swinged a sword at a shield; your arm is GOING to hurt). The game makes it even worse if you use that shout that lets you slash even faster. A shout that makes something already undeveloped, or incomplete, even easier?

i think the combat would prove to be great, IF IF IF, they would have spent LOTZ LOTZ LOTZ of money on the a.i. and added more customizable options.

as well, how bout a "duck and roll" or "slide and thrust" or whatever.

more options. more complexity.

More than enough to know

lol: I've put thousands and thousands of hours into tes games. less with skyrim.

when oh when oh when, will combat and ai improve in tes games?

btw, the next game is a first: automatic NON-auto buy. huge for me.

i will see if the next installment is even stupid ER than skyrim.

Indeed.

Combat is dull, as always in TES.

unless you're talking about a game with lots of multiple decisions and great ai, you are talking about all games.

give me your "great" combat games in relation to tes and let's argue it out:.... you first.

Ugh, no. Rolling around is not the kind of "complexity" TES combat needs. It looks ridiculous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c0XTkqINm0

Wow, just wow. I want to see this in the next ES game.

1. Why can someone with 15 Archery shoot the arrow as accurate as an olympic player?
2. We need a broader melee combat
3. Why can't we block spells with a shield?
4. Why don't our spells ever fail? Someone with 15 destruction succesfully fired a fireball... Unbelievable. It should explode in his face.
5. We need dodging

Basic things... I'm too tired to add the other things.

Bethesda are stupid and can't seem to grasp that there should be multiple variables based on character skill, not just damage dealt. Games like Mount & Blade handle archery a lot better by making it extremely difficult to aim well (especially at a distance) if your character is a poor archer.

Damage should mostly be determined by the quality of the equipment you're using, with physically weak characters being unable to even use some of the best bows.

Maybe I'm mad, but I really didn't like the look of the combat in that video.

...coming from someone who mentioned The Witcher as an example of good combat.

Me neither. The animations are pretty stiff, and this combat system doesn't fit fantasy games. It's more of a combat system for a medieval game.

The animations are a work in progress. They're still working on a lot of the motion capture stuff, so everything should look a lot more natural and fluid in the final product.

And I don't see why fantasy has to mean over the top combat with silly oversized weapons and crap like that. Bethesda have always had quite a sensible "medieval" approach to combat. Even the magic isn't super over the top.

The game is still in alpha and set to be released around 2016. The demo you saw was actually a version of the game from 18 months ago if I can recall correctly.

How is medieval combat suppose to be different from fantasy combat? Its the same weapons and armour, just with the exception of magic in the former.