I forgot to mention it also adds a Perk that gives a halo-like shield complete with interface UI for shield health for either vanilla or darnified.
Gross
Great way to ruin a much needed mod.
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Gross
Great way to ruin a much needed mod.
Great way to ruin a much needed mod.
It's an optional perk. No need to get the perk if you dont' want it.
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Victoria Vasileva - Posts: 3340
- Joined: Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:42 pm
» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:18 pm
These mods you guys listed are totally mind-blowing. I am def going to use some of them when I get the game on Monday or Tuesday.
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An Lor - Posts: 3439
- Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:46 pm
» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:38 am
+OK, been running the FWE ironsights overhaul and I must say that now I ironed out the problems I was getting with the HUD compass (some fiddling with Load order and editing) the Mod is very good indeed. It`s really great getting EVERY gun in ironsights 1st person. Amazing model work there, as good as stuff done with professionals like in BC2. Even though the Mod said it got rid of WW2 weapons, like Rendruk says, it doesn`t totally becuase I`ve seen at least 4 WW2 weapons in there, so that`s good. The FOV does not seem to work, but I like the breathing sound you get when wearing a full face mask (different breathing too!). Still working on fixing the FOV, but not a high priority.
I`ve endorsed it.
Sorry, if I sounded a bit rude earlier, just got a little worried that my perfect set-up had been ruined.
I`ve endorsed it.
Sorry, if I sounded a bit rude earlier, just got a little worried that my perfect set-up had been ruined.
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Rob Smith - Posts: 3424
- Joined: Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:30 pm
» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:38 am
+OK, been running the FWE ironsights overhaul and I must say that now I ironed out the problems I was getting with the HUD compass (some fiddling with Load order and editing) the Mod is very good indeed. It`s really great getting EVERY gun in ironsights 1st person. Amazing model work there, as good as stuff done with professionals like in BC2. Even though the Mod said it got rid of WW2 weapons, like Rendruk says, it doesn`t totally becuase I`ve seen at least 4 WW2 weapons in there, so that`s good. The FOV does not seem to work, but I like the breathing sound you get when wearing a full face mask (different breathing too!). Still working on fixing the FOV, but not a high priority.
I`ve endorsed it.
Sorry, if I sounded a bit rude earlier, just got a little worried that my perfect set-up had been ruined.
I`ve endorsed it.
Sorry, if I sounded a bit rude earlier, just got a little worried that my perfect set-up had been ruined.
Just so you know -- in case you didn't catch the readme, because I sure missed it lol -- you need to disable RH-BasicVanillaPlugin.
I also discovered awhile back myself (even though it isn't in the readme, that you should disable the RH_FWE patch as well (As far as I'm aware -- I found that it would overwrite FWE Overhaul, but it may be possible to have overhaul load after it and still get OK results, I never bothered to test that).
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John N - Posts: 3458
- Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:11 pm
» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:20 pm
Here's my little contribution: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3253. The light takes just long enough to turn on to be annoying... this fixes that.
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Tanika O'Connell - Posts: 3412
- Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:34 am
» Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:08 am
Rendruk-
Or anyone - have you had success installing the FWE ironsight overhaul beta 1 using either FOMM or Wrye Flash?
Both programs have major issues with it and fail to install. I got it installed once with Wrye Flash but it damn near brought down the program on restart. FOMM too refuses to install the mod.
Or anyone - have you had success installing the FWE ironsight overhaul beta 1 using either FOMM or Wrye Flash?
Both programs have major issues with it and fail to install. I got it installed once with Wrye Flash but it damn near brought down the program on restart. FOMM too refuses to install the mod.
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Lory Da Costa - Posts: 3463
- Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:30 pm
» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:07 am
Rendruk-
Or anyone - have you had success installing the FWE ironsight overhaul beta 1 using either FOMM or Wrye Flash?
Both programs have major issues with it and fail to install. I got it installed once with Wrye Flash but it damn near brought down the program on restart. FOMM too refuses to install the mod.
Or anyone - have you had success installing the FWE ironsight overhaul beta 1 using either FOMM or Wrye Flash?
Both programs have major issues with it and fail to install. I got it installed once with Wrye Flash but it damn near brought down the program on restart. FOMM too refuses to install the mod.
Ya working perfectly here, double check its readme for load order help and disable rh_vanillabasic and rh_fwepatch, link ur load order make sure u put in the correct menus ... typing with OSK here in bed so sorry 4 brevity. dont use package manager
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Steve Smith - Posts: 3540
- Joined: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:47 am
» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:39 am
If you don't use an installer then my question is not answered.
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1102449-relz-garybash-thread-2/page__view__findpost__p__17166576
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1102449-relz-garybash-thread-2/page__view__findpost__p__17166576
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Ash - Posts: 3392
- Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:59 am
» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:09 am
If you don't use an installer then my question is not answered.
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1102449-relz-garybash-thread-2/page__view__findpost__p__17166576
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1102449-relz-garybash-thread-2/page__view__findpost__p__17166576
Dont be anol bout it. 7zip extract voila.
If ur super worried, keep a record of the files for manual removal.
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hannah sillery - Posts: 3354
- Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:13 pm
» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:41 am
Has nothing to do with being anol or an ass at all in my response.
I use a lot of mods and an installer is a must for me. Wrye Flash is the preferred method, but I'll settle for FOMM.
Happens that with this I found a bug with Wrye Flash and an issue with that mod - the two compounded each other confusing the issue.
Wrye flash is having issues with foreign language file names which the mod has.
That mod also has files set to read only which both Wrye and FOMM choked on.
Both are real issues that other users will have as well. I made reports all around - now all involved know how to fix if they want to.
anol ... tsk :glare:
I use a lot of mods and an installer is a must for me. Wrye Flash is the preferred method, but I'll settle for FOMM.
Happens that with this I found a bug with Wrye Flash and an issue with that mod - the two compounded each other confusing the issue.
Wrye flash is having issues with foreign language file names which the mod has.
That mod also has files set to read only which both Wrye and FOMM choked on.
Both are real issues that other users will have as well. I made reports all around - now all involved know how to fix if they want to.
anol ... tsk :glare:
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Natasha Callaghan - Posts: 3523
- Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:44 pm
» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:18 am
Rendruk-
Or anyone - have you had success installing the FWE ironsight overhaul beta 1 using either FOMM or Wrye Flash?
Both programs have major issues with it and fail to install. I got it installed once with Wrye Flash but it damn near brought down the program on restart. FOMM too refuses to install the mod.
Or anyone - have you had success installing the FWE ironsight overhaul beta 1 using either FOMM or Wrye Flash?
Both programs have major issues with it and fail to install. I got it installed once with Wrye Flash but it damn near brought down the program on restart. FOMM too refuses to install the mod.
Had no problems here. I used FOMM (don`t touch Wrye bash never will- too much hassle) with Ironsights overhaul. Got the FOV, sights and everything working perfectly. Did it through that package manager thing. Even found a way to get rid of the compass markers that it reintroduced over darnified.
By the way, I decided to try and used the Beauty Project again and this time got it working perfectly by using FWE (which adds patches for compatibilty), very nice mod. Doesn`t make the men look `beautiful` which is a relief, but ladies look pretty good.
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Rebecca Clare Smith - Posts: 3508
- Joined: Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:13 pm
» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:04 am
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13199 Aka "Beware of girl jessica"
Never run the game without it. :dance:
Never run the game without it. :dance:
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Monika Krzyzak - Posts: 3471
- Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:29 pm
» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:03 am
Has nothing to do with being anol or an ass at all in my response.
I use a lot of mods and an installer is a must for me. Wrye Flash is the preferred method, but I'll settle for FOMM.
Happens that with this I found a bug with Wrye Flash and an issue with that mod - the two compounded each other confusing the issue.
Wrye flash is having issues with foreign language file names which the mod has.
That mod also has files set to read only which both Wrye and FOMM choked on.
Both are real issues that other users will have as well. I made reports all around - now all involved know how to fix if they want to.
anol ... tsk :glare:
I use a lot of mods and an installer is a must for me. Wrye Flash is the preferred method, but I'll settle for FOMM.
Happens that with this I found a bug with Wrye Flash and an issue with that mod - the two compounded each other confusing the issue.
Wrye flash is having issues with foreign language file names which the mod has.
That mod also has files set to read only which both Wrye and FOMM choked on.
Both are real issues that other users will have as well. I made reports all around - now all involved know how to fix if they want to.
anol ... tsk :glare:
Psych term, not an insult. Would you prefer Type A:P
Thing is, if everything else you have was installed using an installer -- then one oddball out isn't going to literally *kill* you. When you say "must" do you really mean "Must"?
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Epul Kedah - Posts: 3545
- Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:35 am
» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:38 pm
I am a psychologist - I get your attempt at clean up humor. Albeit with references to the least clean.
You could say http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1084204-bain-mod-installation-projects/; however, attempts to anolyze my desire for things to be organized with regard to a game (set of games) that can be excessively complicated are missing the point.
It is not me that would get killed but rather my game install. Now if we can lay aside the personal characterizations for a second let me explain.
All of my install is installed with BAIN - which means that I can open BAIN up at any moment and look and see visually what files from what mod are being overwritten by what other mod or what it is underwriting. Now if you run very few mods you might think "oh wow - big deal." But if you run a lot of mods and have ever been through the whole 'What the hell happened to my game - maybe I should reinstall." I've been through that a few times and was fortunate enough to be there an help test and use BAIN when it first got implemented. BAIN is far superior to mod manager in several areas. I quote from my own thread on that:
While FOMM does offer more features with regard to file management it still is not up to par with BAIN in this regard (just as FO3edit merged patch is not up to par with the bashed patch). IN fact the things that still make the OBMM viable can not be said to be true for FOMM. There are hardly any shader mods for Fallouts and to my best knowledge there is only one FOSE plugin (FOSR) that could benefit from it. Meanwhile Oblivion has http://www.gamesas.com/?showtopic=950703&hl.
Now before you respond with accusations of my humorless approach to a reply with hints that perhaps again I have issues with retention of feces - let me drive this point home for you.
I use a lot of mods:
As such the more I can see what mods are overwriting what other mods -then the more I stay on top of how to manage that many mods. If I have 5-7 weapon tweaking mods that are installed via BAIN then one that is not due to being either installed manually or with FOMM then it really kind of undermines all the previous carefully packaged mods. Because suddenly all these data files that are being tracked automatically are returned to black box installing. Then say I want to add more mods later.
I earned these stars pretty much exclusively on the mods forums - I've had to debug load orders that are nearly always pushing the limit. I've learned how not to have threads like http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1165887-what-might-cause-this/, or undercover help me threads like http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1165392-what-if-your-merged-patch-is-what-is-causing-the-crash/.
You could say http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1084204-bain-mod-installation-projects/; however, attempts to anolyze my desire for things to be organized with regard to a game (set of games) that can be excessively complicated are missing the point.
It is not me that would get killed but rather my game install. Now if we can lay aside the personal characterizations for a second let me explain.
All of my install is installed with BAIN - which means that I can open BAIN up at any moment and look and see visually what files from what mod are being overwritten by what other mod or what it is underwriting. Now if you run very few mods you might think "oh wow - big deal." But if you run a lot of mods and have ever been through the whole 'What the hell happened to my game - maybe I should reinstall." I've been through that a few times and was fortunate enough to be there an help test and use BAIN when it first got implemented. BAIN is far superior to mod manager in several areas. I quote from my own thread on that:
- BAIN encourages thinking about what a manual install is and how things work 'under the hood.'
- BAIN offers precise control of files and gives sensible conflict reports and control options of resolving those conflicts.
- BAIN gives us the ability to manage install order - a term anologous to load order with regard to esm/esp files.
- BAIN Provides detailed reports of what it installs and can tell you if what was installed has changed, been overwritten, is missing, or even if a file was not installed.
- BAIN requires no special OMOD files and can work with 7zip, rar and other common archiving methods (7zip being the recommended though), as well as, regular file folders (projects).
- BAIN offers the ability to create your own packages that can include any number of mods with the limit being only what you can manage to create with file directory juggling.
While FOMM does offer more features with regard to file management it still is not up to par with BAIN in this regard (just as FO3edit merged patch is not up to par with the bashed patch). IN fact the things that still make the OBMM viable can not be said to be true for FOMM. There are hardly any shader mods for Fallouts and to my best knowledge there is only one FOSE plugin (FOSR) that could benefit from it. Meanwhile Oblivion has http://www.gamesas.com/?showtopic=950703&hl.
Now before you respond with accusations of my humorless approach to a reply with hints that perhaps again I have issues with retention of feces - let me drive this point home for you.
I use a lot of mods:
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Active Mod Files:00 fallout3.esm01 anchorage.esm02 thepitt.esm03 streetlights.esm04 brokensteel.esm05 pointlookout.esm06 zeta.esm07 unofficial fallout 3 patch.esm [Version 1.2.0]08 inventory access.esm09 imcn.esm0A destruction.esm0B pointlookout-followersgettogo.esm [Version 2.]0C impervious power armour.esm0D craft.esm0E calibr.esm [Version 1.4]0F xcalibr.esm10 xcalibruniverse.esm11 project beauty.esm12 refurbishes [all].esm13 cubeexperimental (en).esm14 project genesis.esm [Version 1.00]15 fo3 wanderers edition - main file.esm16 mart's mutant mod.esm17 companion core.esm18 companion share & recruit.esm19 robco certified v2.esm1A wasteland whisperer v2.esm1B enhanced weather - rain and snow.esm1C xepha's dynamic weather.esm1D dcinteriors_comboedition.esm1E zumbs' overhauled real time security.esm1F ss master file.esm20 ambient temperature.esm21 unofficial fallout 3 patch - operation anchorage.esp [Version 1.2.0]22 unofficial fallout 3 patch - the pitt.esp [Version 1.2.0]23 unofficial fallout 3 patch - broken steel.esp [Version 1.2.0]24 unofficial fallout 3 patch - point lookout.esp [Version 1.2.0]25 unofficial fallout 3 patch - mothership zeta.esp [Version 1.2.0]26 firelightfix.esp27 darnifieduif3.esp28 ambient temperature hud.esp** Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp** Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp29 streetlights - wasteland.esp2A dof-purelow.esp2B tincancrafting.esp [Version 2.0]2C craft - energyammo.esp2D calibrxmerchant.esp2E lmdexpandedhotkeysfo3.esp [Version 0.6]2F princess better prompts v1pt1.esp++ Zombie Sounds V2.esp++ GeneratorSound.esp30 moshman's wasteland ambiance.esp31 galaxynewsradio100[m].esp32 radioblues.esp33 war_radio.esp34 people_radio.esp35 invasionradio.esp36 kbatradio.esp37 vtap25.esp38 ghostradio.esp39 mutantradio.esp3A lookoutradio.esp3B radiotenpenny.esp3C radio stutter fix.esp3D radiohotkey.esp3E radiohotkey_radiobluesaddon.esp3F tcos.esp40 conelrad 640-1240.esp41 existence2.0.esp42 upp - pack 1.esp43 upp - pack 2.esp44 upp - original perks.esp45 upp - experience perks.esp46 upp - quest perks.esp47 prewar book titles and perks.esp48 combat style perks.esp49 notsofast.esp4A heirapparent.esp4B the mantis imperative - mantis.esp4C the mantis imperative - jello.esp4D nightmarerealm.esp4E markb50k_wasteland_patrols.esp4F tubrrcompound.esp50 stealth kills enabled.esp++ Stealth Kills Enabled - Pitt Compatibility.esp51 echo_batterycharger.esp52 householdwaterpurifier.esp53 blackwolf backpack.esp54 gunnysack.esp [Version 1.3]55 1animated nightvision goggles.esp56 fnvfov.esp57 xepha's radial blurred zoom.esp58 directional piplight hdr.esp59 down under.esp [Version 1.0]5A expanded megaton house v3.esp5B maintenanceshed.esp [Version 1.3]5C merc.esp5D moremapmarkers.esp5E maxlevelworkaround-hp-bs.esp5F wastelandmastery.esp60 skillcheck.esp61 treasure maps_underground.esp62 treasure maps_secrets of the wasteland.esp63 treasure maps_bobblehead edition.esp64 treasure maps_a fist full of caps.esp++ Destruction - Main.esp65 destruction - main - statics.esp++ Destruction - DLC.esp66 destruction - dlc - statics.esp67 busworldv1.05d.esp68 ss enhanced combat maneuvers.esp69 mtc wasteland travellers.esp6A dcinteriors_dlc_collectables.esp6B rivet city realignment.esp6C megalight.esp++ WastelandRecovery5.esp6D movinonup3.0.esp6E canterbury estates 0.8 beta.esp6F fo3 wanderers edition - main file.esp70 fo3 wanderers edition - dlc anchorage.esp71 fo3 wanderers edition - dlc the pitt.esp72 fo3 wanderers edition - dlc broken steel.esp73 fo3 wanderers edition - dlc point lookout.esp74 fo3 wanderers edition - dlc mothership zeta.esp75 fo3 wanderers edition - alternate travel.esp++ FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp76 fo3 wanderers edition - optional vats realtime.esp++ FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp++ FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp77 fo3 quest patch - fwe + bs.esp78 weaponmodkits.esp79 weaponmodkits - fwe master release.esp7A weaponmodkits - operationanchorage.esp7B weaponmodkits - thepitt.esp7C weaponmodkits - brokensteel.esp7D weaponmodkits - pointlookout.esp7E weaponmodkits - zeta.esp++ Echo_UseBothGloves.esp7F alexscorpion's and weijiesen's smoking fun.esp80 solarscorcher.esp81 tactical weapons by grs frederyck.esp82 zl-acr.esp83 zl-svd-calibr.esp84 playing with firepower.esp85 dogmeat leather armor - craft.esp86 dragonskin tactical outfit.esp87 dragonskinbonuspack.esp88 stealthboy recon armor - craft.esp89 powered power armor.esp8A ppa - operation anchorage.esp8B ppa - broken steel.esp8C ppa - the pitt.esp8D ppa - mothership zeta.esp8E ppa - fwe.esp8F calibr ammo schematics - craft.esp90 craft improvised weaponry.esp91 craft improvised weaponry - unmodeled.esp92 dogmeatessentialmodv1.2.esp93 move-dogmeat.esp++ DogmeatStealth.esp++ ZORTS - Custom HP - FWE.esp94 zorts - disable fwe activate.esp95 companion core dlc addon.esp96 wasteland whisperer v2 broken steel addon.esp97 robco certified v2 mechanist's edition.esp98 robco certified v2 zeta addon.esp99 mr smith's scrapyard.esp++ tubURP.esp++ ThePitt-NoFireFollowers.esp9A WeaponModKits-Unique.esp9B immersivehealth.esp9C falloutfood.esp++ FalloutFoods - FWE Master Release.esp** Gunfire Sound Range Increased.esp9D eve.esp9E eve operation anchorage.esp9F eve - fwe master release.esp++ EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp++ EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp++ EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.espA0 mart's mutant mod.espA1 mart's mutant mod - dlc anchorage.espA2 mart's mutant mod - dlc the pitt.espA3 mart's mutant mod - dlc broken steel.esp++ Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espA4 mart's mutant mod - dlc zeta.espA5 mart's mutant mod - fwe master release.espA6 mart's mutant mod - fwe master release + dlcs.espA7 mart's mutant mod - fwe master release + project beauty.espA8 mysteriouswoman_corsetntrousers.espA9 imp's more complex needs.espAA imcn - 5 dlc merged.espAB imcn - fwe compatibility and ingestibles.espAC imcn - mmm meats, bloods, and eyeballs.espAD imcn - ambient temperature.esp++ PPA - IMCN.esp++ T3T_MiscItemIcons.esp++ ACRForFWE.esp++ SVDForFWE.esp++ DTOForFWE.espAE zumbs' smaller condition effect on item value.espAF gifts4kids.espB0 ntfs.espB1 phalanx-obedient-dogmeat.esp++ lessviewdistance.esp++ PiPBoy Light Range x4.esp++ PiPBoy Yellow Light.espB2 enhanced weather - rainbows.espB3 enhanced weather - weather sounds in interiors.espB4 realistic interior lighting.espB5 realistic interior lighting - bs.espB6 realistic interior lighting - oa.espB7 xepha's dynamic weather - main.espB8 xepha's dynamic weather - anchorage.espB9 xepha's dynamic weather - the pitt.espBA xepha's dynamic weather - broken steel.espBB xepha's dynamic weather - point lookout.espBC xepha's dynamic weather - rain.espBD xepha's dynamic weather - sandstorm.espBE xepha's dynamic weather - sandstorms damage armor.espBF xepha's dynamic weather - green tint remover.espC0 xepha's dynamic weather - dynamic sneak bonus.espC1 robco certified v2 omnipatch.esp++ RobCo Certified v2 Impervious FWE.espC2 xcalibruniverse.espC3 xcalibr - alternative path.espC4 xcalibruniverse - wmk.espC5 xcalibruniverse_fwe_fps.esp++ xCALIBRammo_FWE.esp++ frederyck+FWE+xCALIBR.espC6 tubunarfwe.espC7 tubunarCombatFWE.espC8 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
As such the more I can see what mods are overwriting what other mods -then the more I stay on top of how to manage that many mods. If I have 5-7 weapon tweaking mods that are installed via BAIN then one that is not due to being either installed manually or with FOMM then it really kind of undermines all the previous carefully packaged mods. Because suddenly all these data files that are being tracked automatically are returned to black box installing. Then say I want to add more mods later.
I earned these stars pretty much exclusively on the mods forums - I've had to debug load orders that are nearly always pushing the limit. I've learned how not to have threads like http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1165887-what-might-cause-this/, or undercover help me threads like http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1165392-what-if-your-merged-patch-is-what-is-causing-the-crash/.
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Mandi Norton - Posts: 3451
- Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:43 pm
» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:34 pm
Ah... Bain.
Bain to me is much like Bane itself. And never tell anyone you`re a psychologist.
Just j\king. Why not just manually install the files this time round?
Bain to me is much like Bane itself. And never tell anyone you`re a psychologist.
Just j\king. Why not just manually install the files this time round?
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Nikki Morse - Posts: 3494
- Joined: Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:08 pm
» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:53 pm
No, no, and no.
Again - by installing manually a mod that will overwrite several of the mods I have installed with BAIN completely undermines the reason for using BAIN. So no thanks.
I have a stable game with over 250 mods - made stable by use of this tool. Why throw a monkey wrench in it?
BAIN is no BANE - it is not that hard to use at all. I may be biased though having been the first to write a manual for it.
The reaction most people give when being told they are talking to a shrink is either to slink off in avoidance or throw up their personal issues. I, of course, prefer neither response, but seeing psych terms used like that is kind of like what happens when a tech minded person talks to someone who then responds to them by saying 'So what kind of apple mac do you have?'
Again - by installing manually a mod that will overwrite several of the mods I have installed with BAIN completely undermines the reason for using BAIN. So no thanks.
I have a stable game with over 250 mods - made stable by use of this tool. Why throw a monkey wrench in it?
BAIN is no BANE - it is not that hard to use at all. I may be biased though having been the first to write a manual for it.
The reaction most people give when being told they are talking to a shrink is either to slink off in avoidance or throw up their personal issues. I, of course, prefer neither response, but seeing psych terms used like that is kind of like what happens when a tech minded person talks to someone who then responds to them by saying 'So what kind of apple mac do you have?'
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Lew.p - Posts: 3430
- Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:31 pm
» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:01 pm
No, no, and no.
Again - by installing manually a mod that will overwrite several of the mods I have installed with BAIN completely undermines the reason for using BAIN. So no thanks.
I have a stable game with over 250 mods - made stable by use of this tool. Why throw a monkey wrench in it?
BAIN is no BANE - it is not that hard to use at all. I may be biased though having been the first to write a manual for it.
The reaction most people give when being told they are talking to a shrink is either to slink off in avoidance or throw up their personal issues. I, of course, prefer neither response, but seeing psych terms used like that is kind of like what happens when a tech minded person talks to someone who then responds to them by saying 'So what kind of apple mac do you have?'
Again - by installing manually a mod that will overwrite several of the mods I have installed with BAIN completely undermines the reason for using BAIN. So no thanks.
I have a stable game with over 250 mods - made stable by use of this tool. Why throw a monkey wrench in it?
BAIN is no BANE - it is not that hard to use at all. I may be biased though having been the first to write a manual for it.
The reaction most people give when being told they are talking to a shrink is either to slink off in avoidance or throw up their personal issues. I, of course, prefer neither response, but seeing psych terms used like that is kind of like what happens when a tech minded person talks to someone who then responds to them by saying 'So what kind of apple mac do you have?'
Ah, well, I have a daughter studying criminal psychology and she`s doing a good job of annoying me when using me as her psycho-anolysis training tool! Those staring eyes, the questions, that condescending attitude... :hubbahubba:
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Mrs Pooh - Posts: 3340
- Joined: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:30 pm
» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:39 am
Ah yes well you http://www.despair.com/elitism.html.
Still better http://www.despair.com/incompetence.html I suppose.
People are all about getting personal today ... personal attacks, personal snipes, personal stories.
Still better http://www.despair.com/incompetence.html I suppose.
People are all about getting personal today ... personal attacks, personal snipes, personal stories.
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Fam Mughal - Posts: 3468
- Joined: Sat May 26, 2007 3:18 am
» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:13 am
No, no, and no.
Again - by installing manually a mod that will overwrite several of the mods I have installed with BAIN completely undermines the reason for using BAIN. So no thanks.
I have a stable game with over 250 mods - made stable by use of this tool. Why throw a monkey wrench in it?
BAIN is no BANE - it is not that hard to use at all. I may be biased though having been the first to write a manual for it.
The reaction most people give when being told they are talking to a shrink is either to slink off in avoidance or throw up their personal issues. I, of course, prefer neither response, but seeing psych terms used like that is kind of like what happens when a tech minded person talks to someone who then responds to them by saying 'So what kind of apple mac do you have?'
Again - by installing manually a mod that will overwrite several of the mods I have installed with BAIN completely undermines the reason for using BAIN. So no thanks.
I have a stable game with over 250 mods - made stable by use of this tool. Why throw a monkey wrench in it?
BAIN is no BANE - it is not that hard to use at all. I may be biased though having been the first to write a manual for it.
The reaction most people give when being told they are talking to a shrink is either to slink off in avoidance or throw up their personal issues. I, of course, prefer neither response, but seeing psych terms used like that is kind of like what happens when a tech minded person talks to someone who then responds to them by saying 'So what kind of apple mac do you have?'
annnndddd still coming off as sorta anol.
Never heard of bain b4 this, sounds interesting. I'm at a point where I don't need it luckily enough. It might have helped me had I used it from the start, perhaps there would still be a few mods I wouldn't have thrown out the window I should say. But I can't recall ever throwing out a mod I couldn't live without! I figure that some conflicts involve conflicts between just two mods... so I double-troubleshoot so to speak. I find the mod that causes trouble and then I load up with just that mod until I find the mod that causes trouble with it, and then pick between the two which I would prefer to keep. I've been lucky enough, and perhaps particular enough in my mod selection to begin with, to not have to lose out on any mods I truly loved... sometimes I miss out on a quest mod here and there. Nightmare realm I believe caused troubles with MMM during a script that caused all items to be removed, that one could have been avoided I figured out later on when MMM caused the same problem with Zeta --- but again, just one lone quest mod. I'll live.
I STILL want to have a quick-fix for the merged patch question I had!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please help:)
Oh wait, you already told me there wasn't a quick fix for that one. Guess you already did answer it, thanks again. I find asking for help efficient at times --derp!
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Trevor Bostwick - Posts: 3393
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» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:46 am
annnndddd still coming off as sorta anol.
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Oh wait, you already told me there wasn't a quick fix for that one. Guess you already did answer it, thanks again. I find asking for help efficient at times --derp!
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Oh wait, you already told me there wasn't a quick fix for that one. Guess you already did answer it, thanks again. I find asking for help efficient at times --derp!
Nice.
Look I've already told ya why and how come. If you want to persist in using mods that are problematic - your choice. If you don't want to use the better tool (that only costs the price of the time to learn it) - your choice, if you want to snipe at people who are here to give knowledge - again your choice. All choices have consequences.
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carly mcdonough - Posts: 3402
- Joined: Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:23 am
» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:22 am
Just hearing about all these mods, while still waiting for my game to arrive from Amazon, is driving me bonkers!
Here is my plan...when I get the game, I will play WITHOUT MODS except for maybe one that changes to font to a smaller type, MMM, and maybe a few radio station song increasings.
But nothing else that changes anything.
Here is my plan...when I get the game, I will play WITHOUT MODS except for maybe one that changes to font to a smaller type, MMM, and maybe a few radio station song increasings.
But nothing else that changes anything.
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Arrogant SId - Posts: 3366
- Joined: Sat May 19, 2007 11:39 am
» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:04 am
Nice.
Look I've already told ya why and how come. If you want to persist in using mods that are problematic - your choice. If you don't want to use the better tool (that only costs the price of the time to learn it) - your choice, if you want to snipe at people who are here to give knowledge - again your choice. All choices have consequences.
Look I've already told ya why and how come. If you want to persist in using mods that are problematic - your choice. If you don't want to use the better tool (that only costs the price of the time to learn it) - your choice, if you want to snipe at people who are here to give knowledge - again your choice. All choices have consequences.
It's your choice to take it as a snipe, but I didn't intend it as such because I don't believe there's something inherently wrong with being a lil anol now and again.. I personally believe both anol and otherwise people should live in peace and harmony. Both have advantages and disadvantages... depending upon the circumstances! I love eeeeevvvverrryoneee,
If you were being particularly laid-back in a situation in which laidbackness wasn't called for, I'd have said "no need to be so laid-back" instead of "no need to be so anol". It's not a snipe on your personal character, I think either type of person is welcome -- but like I said -- just depends upon the situation. I think it is pretty humorous for that very fact. It can't be a personal insult in my mind, because there's nothing wrong with being organized! Maybe due to your profession you read a bit more into the word than I expected the average person would, and although I said it was a psych term and that I meant it in the psych sense of the word... I didn't really mean the "open up a psychology text-book" and diagnose yourself sense of the word. Oh well, difficult to explain in writing -- but you'll just have to take my word for it. I don't have a problem with you or your personal character. Given the fact that I didn't know about BAIN, and that I don't consider the phrase I used as insultin.. cuz if someone said it to me i wouldn't take it as an insult, and we gotta view the world through the lens in which we see... i'll call that projecting but that's not the exact text-book definition of the word either, maybe inverse-projecting which is probably a paradox lol. ramblinggggg....
So yah, but the fact that I wouldn't consider that sniping and you would is sort of still leaning more towards the anol side. If that's you, that's fine -- nothing wrong with being a lil more serious or w/e. I prefer to not get insulted because then heyyyy I'm happier more of the time that way:P!
But I do not like hurting peoples feelings either or you know, however being "sniped" makes you feel -- I figure it must make you feel something or you wouldn't have mentioned it, so I'm writing all of this to try and take the time to apologize to ya. I sometimes am so easy-going I forget that other people have perfectly legit reasons to get upset at things I write. I don't really upset people in personnnn, just writing makes things sort of difficult to convey... like if I saw you in person I'd have said "don't be so anol" in a soothing yet joking tone of voice, soft undertones, obviously not insulting tone of voice. Like someone might say "Ohhhh don't worry about that"
Ho hummmmmm. So ya like, hope you enjoyed reaadding this!
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Robert Jr - Posts: 3447
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» Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:56 am
Ohh look an amateur goat herder - looking to collect goats no less.
Soo laid back as I casually sling yet more psych insults ... projection ... hurt feelings. Presume much? Some use emoticons to convey that when they say things like ... don't be so anol :tongue: - so that it does not come off like an attempt at insulting. I'm not big on emoticons either - having learned to type on a typewriter.
Really it comes down to you make a snipe then I call you on it and now you assume that I have a hurt backside and then you take an air of detachment. You can't know what people are like or what they really mean by just their words on an anonymous forum. You can assume all you like - but assumptions aside - I'm not addressing you on what I think you wrote, but on what you wrote.
Since you can't tell what a person is really thinking or what they are really like then why persist? Unless yeah you do want my goat. If an approach is not read as being welcome and yet is persisted upon then what would you read about that?
That is why I directed the conversation back to the reason why and the subject at hand ... and will do so again. Because BAIN advantages far outweigh the disadvantages and manual install is emphasizing the disadvantages.
I'd asked if you or anyone had success at installing the beta of that mod with an installer. So you didn't even need to answer. Not the alpha not a previous version - the beta. Looking at the comments I see I'm not the only one who has issues.
Soo laid back as I casually sling yet more psych insults ... projection ... hurt feelings. Presume much? Some use emoticons to convey that when they say things like ... don't be so anol :tongue: - so that it does not come off like an attempt at insulting. I'm not big on emoticons either - having learned to type on a typewriter.
Really it comes down to you make a snipe then I call you on it and now you assume that I have a hurt backside and then you take an air of detachment. You can't know what people are like or what they really mean by just their words on an anonymous forum. You can assume all you like - but assumptions aside - I'm not addressing you on what I think you wrote, but on what you wrote.
Since you can't tell what a person is really thinking or what they are really like then why persist? Unless yeah you do want my goat. If an approach is not read as being welcome and yet is persisted upon then what would you read about that?
That is why I directed the conversation back to the reason why and the subject at hand ... and will do so again. Because BAIN advantages far outweigh the disadvantages and manual install is emphasizing the disadvantages.
I'd asked if you or anyone had success at installing the beta of that mod with an installer. So you didn't even need to answer. Not the alpha not a previous version - the beta. Looking at the comments I see I'm not the only one who has issues.
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Stephanie Valentine - Posts: 3281
- Joined: Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:09 pm
» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:23 pm
You need to stop thinking so hard, Psymon. relax, stop seeing offence where there`s none. We were trying to help and have the odd joke (at least I was), sorry we`re failed. Hope you find the solution to your FallOut 3 problem.
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Steve Smith - Posts: 3540
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