I had a 122, which apparently isn't too bad! Upper end of the spectrum at least.

First, "nature" doesn't want anything. Secondly, things happen for no reason all the time. Humans might ascribe some reason to events, but that doesn't mean there was some sort of reason / reasoning behind those events. If you want the "reason" why some kids have ADHD and others don't, here is the best I can give you: the mother and father (or IVF or whatever) had such and such genetics that caused a neurological development in the child's brain which, possibly influenced by the kid's environment, caused the child to have a lack of attention, hyper-focus, etc, etc. That's your "reason."

I know various ways to make rope, and can tie a hangman's knot :thumbsup:.


So things like switching from the standard English course to Literature (mostly comprised of anolysis) because I was having trouble with the former, doing better in Philosophy than the rest of my subjects, having ADHD, and ending up leaving school early due to undiagnosed B.A.D. (I like that acronym ^_^), correlates with havin teh smartsness?


I was diagnosed with ADHD at 17, at my own (turned out that it wasn't what was causing my main problems, but that's beside the point). I can tell you with certainty that it exists. If something has too little interest for me, my mind will start wandering off on tangents (then tangents of the tangents...), and I have to constantly drag my attention back to it. When something does interest me, I often will focus on it to such an extent that hours will pass without me noticing, and I will pay little attention to anything other than the activity which is engrossing me. There are other bits an pieces to it, too, but I can't be bothered covering everything.

In study, one thing that can work well for me is switching between multiple things. For example, working on one subject until it starts loosing me, then switching to another (then back again). Sometimes a game will be part of that mix. This is one of the ways in which distance educations (correspondence school) was advantageous for me.

Obviously adaptation has no reason and takes the path of least resistance, but thats too abstract to describe so I use the word "want", or "prerogative" etc. You mention its passed down from genes, what do you think that is? All of that comes from evolution, adaptation, natural selection etc. Again, where were all these kids back in the day? With the rate they give out drugs these days, I should of had at least a few in every class.

Yea, that's how my uncle described it with the added bonus he found certain things he was hyper sensitive to and would distract him from getting concentration. Stuff like someone shuffling papers, or coughing would drive him up the wall nuts. He tried most of his life to get a bachelors in anything, but always petered out on the interest scale. He also has ADHD, and is incredibly thankful that it hasn't shown up in any of his children (and now grandchildren).

So a short attention span=a disease or syndrome...LOL

When they come out and prove its real I'll be the first to eat my words, but until then I think its just a racket and a crutch. Peace, Im out for the night, no need to reply.

Also, the further back in time you go, the lower the average school leaving age. So, fifty years it was much more common and accepted for people to stop their education in grade 8/9/10, so people who had trouble coping with the incompatible and strict environment of school had a much more viable option of dropping out and simply working instead.


On the talk page for Wikipedia's article on bipolar, someone once requested coverage of the evolutionary advantages of BPD. I promptly responded by pointing out that there is no guiding force behind evolution, and that there are plenty of stuff in our genetics which could easily be described as defects (numerous inherited physical diseases which clearly have no benefit). Sometimes stuff survives in spite of their negative effects (and low prevalence indicates little advantage given; if something is helpful, it, like eyes, will eventually make its way into the bulk of the population).

And a slightly semantic point is that "concentration" is a far more accurate word to use than "attention". I have plenty of attention, its focusing it on a given task which can be a problem .


I once read something (may have been only anecdotal) about people with ADHD often being hypersensitive to various things (not all have all, but some of the stuff popping up a lot overall). As I recall, things like touch and sound were among them. It was ages ago, though, so inaccuracies are highly likely.

My IQ is over 9000. I challenge any one of you to prove otherwise!

Dunno don't care, I just do. Champions make their own rules!

Also, from what I've read in psychological papers, "intelligence" tests have flaws that have yet to be rectified. Does intelligence mean being able to absorb information? Is it knowledge? Is it ones ability to comprehend things spatially? In addition, IQ tests, if I remember correctly, are relative to the population. So, the most average will always be 100 in that given year or w/e, and IQs have been rising over the years.

Intelligence is the extent of one's ability to argue about what knowledge, belief, and truth are . That's why epistemologists are responsibly for all scientific advances ever :nod:.

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Also, don't think about going and switching into private mode. Batman knows your watching, and Sauron too.

Never took an IQ test. Frankly, I don't really care.

I've never taken an IQ exam and I really don't want too because I hate tests and makes me second guess myself if I know its a test. Then I [censored] up.

i took that test when i was looking at ITT Tech.........thank god i didnt actually go there. i ended up with a 28 but the test was kind of weird since it essentially let you pick the questions you wanted to answer. im not sure how accurate a test like that can be.

Mine 5 :drool:

Nope I just got back, even Xarnacs have to get off the Internet sometimes.

148(tested at 11) and 152(tested at 16) Your choice?

Fixed it for you, now its your avatars blood alcohol content... Just kidding.

I'm not sure.. if it's above average though then I have to say I'm scared for the world. :turned:

I'm pretty sure it is though. I remember being tested as a kid and being labelled "borderline genius". which to me proves that IQ means nothing :shrug:

Just because a disease wasn't diagnosed, doesn't mean it doesn't exsist,

I get what your saying though, it's not because it isn't real, it's because it doesn't affect most sufferers severly.

Prove that it's not.

The only brain 'disorders' (?) I suffer from are (mild) OCD and Tourettes (which fortunately doesn't affect my typing)

Never taken a reputable one.

I don't really see a reason to, either, considering just how thorny the question of "what is intelligence?" is. I seriously doubt the answer lies in a standardized test.

:sigh: why do my threads always go bad

What!? Theres no icon for :sigh:

*sigh*

I'm not positive what mine truly is, to be honest, but I can say it lies somewhere in the 25-50 range.

That's amazing because you can do whatever you want and not be legally accountable! Get out there and do some damage! :biggrin: