Ha, well Forbes is heavily reliant upon contributors which apparently never get their articles reviewed and edited. Due to the pay scheme of contributors, it gives incentive to write-up articles with a lot of speculative opinion and controversy than facts.

So, you dislike me, you couldn't care less about what I post but you keep replying with rebuttals in which you clearly dislike the post and topic, hmmm.

Good luck with whatever it is you do ye who can't handle the same medicine.

I was in the beta...3 times....did you not read ANYTHING I POSTED at all? Or did you pull a tl;dr? There are, obviously, far more public dungeons than instanced, and, as you get closer to endgame, those dungeons possibly have high quality gear loot that will be shared...publicly. Do you get this? R we understand? I'm trying to not be a [censored] but I can't break it down any more in layman terms.

at this point its probably best to just talk about the issues and less about the ops or anyone else attitude. he brought up things that can be answered

you should read the patch notes. i was not being insulting to you at all in anyway. you post replies like this and wonder why people attack you?

Alright, I see some of you are trying to save the topic, I'll try too...

1-No open beta... Doesn't make me suspicious at all. Am I naive? Maybe, I don't care if I am.

2- Combat animations: not slow, not sluggish and no latency. I like them very much

3-Public dungeons: there are public and non-public dungeons. Even if it's public, no one can steal the loot from the enemies as loot system is individual.

4-Lie? No, You can do a lot of mix with a lot of skill trees. I think it's way better than other MMOs or previous elder scrolls games.

5-No endgame raids? Adventure zones up to 24 players. They just said they don't have raids in the "classic" way, whatever that means.

6-Pre-order bonus: I love it, I'm glad they made it, too bad for you if you don't buy it.

You don't have to reply either huh, whatever medicine you talk about...

I didn't play the beta for 10 mins and reserve judgment. I played 3 times and then came here with that experience. Now, I noticed that a lot of people did agree but way more disagreed here. My points are the current points being debated in the game, that is all. That's all this was, trying to feedback to make improvements.

Let me play the passion card: I'm sorry that I care enough to improve this game or find others to help make improvements so we all win, see how easy that was?

I think "troll" is correct. I.e. somebody who makes a post they expect to raise hackles and feel they've won when hackles get raised. A real troll has no actual commitment to the content of what they post; the ONLY purpose is to rile people up. Which this dude/dudette successfully did. No point even trying to engage

And that is why they say: do not feed the trolls.

again the open beta thing is not really true. its more like a controlled open. anyone can get in if they want to they just control when the times are. its pretty much an open beta. they just said "no traditional open beta"

Because that is the second time you've said "get in the beta, get in the beta and you'd know, get in and you'd know, if people damn stop talking about the beta if they knew." I mean....can you be any more damn passive aggressive? You deserved that, no apology for you.

Public Dungeons - What were you thinking? So, now people get to go spelunking in MY dungeons and loot my potential epic chest..? OK, for real, here's the entirety of my beef on that choice: All of the main quests seem centered around public areas in which players SWARM by the dozens on dozens on dozens and utterly annihilate everything that can be tabbed hostile in a matter of seconds. This results in me being able to complete many, many, many quests by simply walking up to the objective NPC and pressing "E". All lootable objects are shared in this case. NO. If I wanted to share with random players, I'd invite them come along. (Public dungeons ARE NOT the dungeons you'll be doing in a group to defeat bosses and obtain loot.)

All players get personal loot. That means each player loots something that only shows for them alone. There are no ninjas and stuff because the loot is not shared.

No offense, trolls do damage and leave. I think you are accusing me of that to increase the negativity on the thread. I'm still just waiting for people to discuss at all anything I posted as noticeable or in agreement with.

The mentioned "micro-transactions" are supposedly limited to "fun" stuff; let's hope they mean cosmetics only.

The second micro-transactions start including XP boosts, items, gems etc., you know the game is toast.

I'm okay with paying a sub in order to play the game, but I NEVER want to see pay 2 win features.

With the competition nowadays, this makes me very skeptical about the long term success of this game as much as I want it to succeed.

I absolutely agree with this very strongly. This needs to change and they need to have instanced dungeons. Public dungeons were just horrible in the beta.

Animations definitely need more detail as well.

1. its not a traditional open beta. anyone can play it though. its pretty much an open beta so saying no open beta is actually wrong its just not open like most games. they are not preventing anyone from playing it

2. patch notes would address this concern. i cant mention it here do to nda but its not an issue. there are instanced dungeons also. they even mentioned the number for launch but i forget it now. would have to look it up

3. no offense but this seems close minded to me. there are many options out there, not every tank has to be x class or healer y class. a bow is not for nightblades only

4. there are end game raids. also not all mmo's launched with them anyway.

5. i agree. i hated that they unlocked factions.

6. i was against it at first, now i dont care. if i had to vote i would vote for the imperial to not be playable

7. i dont understand the single player part. i spent almost all of my beta time grouped with others having a blast. i would like some way for people to join others if not on the same quest line though. not a level 50 helping a level 10 but if my wife finished a quest before me she should still be able to help me finish. we should be able to see each other

Using an outdated model with very many new competitive games on the horizon, my whole point really (sub doesnt bother me, $.49 cents a day is nothing really.)

You need a security input code and a temporary beta account in order to play, that's not even remotely open. That's clearance needed first. Also, there was nothing engaging or immersing about playing with other players. The game presented no reason to and thus no stimulation to play with others occurred so the mulitplayer being that is why I concluded that this game feels way to single-player to pay for in a dedicated sense long-term, etc.

well that would be your opinion. i was grouped almost the entire time and found it more fun. you are saying no open like they are trying to hide something, i am telling you they are not as anyone can play

Tell that to my little step-brother sitting next to me who anxiously spammed the hell out of the play client and never got his chance because he received no email code.

Trust me, I'm not just saying things to say things for the sake of having something to say. I wouldn't have created a forum account for that.

They were giving beta keys over some websites, they just limited the total number of players to suit their needs for the testing... IT IS NOT a free trial, it is a testing beta.

And again, your opinion... I loved grouping with people

I don't understand the grouping point because I completed every quest alone up until 16 and then just stopped out of shear boredom. I had no trouble and spent more of my time one shotting everything in the game on my Nightblade with pretty much no resistance.

I know it's not a free-trial, I didn't say that or expect anything of the sort. But they gave more beta keys out then the servers could handle and like I said, IT'S OPEN TO THOSE WHO'VE ALREADY GOTTEN THE BETA CODE.