Will they even thaw out?

I think its possible, but improbable.

Everything has to thaw out at some point... even in Alaska. So yeah, they'd thaw but wouldn't be a threat because they'd just break down and turn to disgusting mush. :yuck:

place- walmart in alaska
gun-44 mag. and 12 gauge and maybe a hunting rifle :gun:
melee-axe


I wander if the Empire State building would be good idea?probably not :nope:

Place: Large rectangular warehouse with one door, and no windows. Bunker, armory in back opposite of door so you can watch the door from a fair distance. If you lucky you could get a cat walk on top so you have more time to pick em off before they reach you.

Firearm: Depends on the job, for the scenario I put I would use some sort a battle rifle, maybe a FAL or AN94. If possible get some mounted machine guns.(this is if you have access to powerful weapons, if not a Mossberg 500, any hunting rifle, and a pistol.

Melee Weapon: Won't use it much in this scenario but a large bowie knife could work. Or a medicine ball on a rope.

Mmmm Zombioca :liplick:

Safeway myself. I feel your pain.


:yuck:

For weapons, well. Personally I'd like a .22 revolver and long rifle. AK. M14 with an optic or scope. Possibly an M4 but circumstances depending an AK is all around more reliable. 12 Gauge. 9mm high cap magazine pistol.
I guess this is more of a wishlist than a zombie survival plan.

And for Melee: 1 foot kukri followed by a tomahawk followed by a spear, then your standard chopping axe.

I'd probably just head to a condo complex and set up something (not quite as racist) as Tenpenny Tower. Raid for food in squads with a quick access truck and manual pumps for water and gas.

Best place would be somewhere out of the way. A cabin or lodge that your family or friends possibly own... Maybe a ski or general resort lodge, but I dunno how many people would be swarming there? You could barricade the lower parts (talking about resorts here) and use the upper floors for shelter and defense.

For the best firearm, it would be something that was light and low calibre. Something that I could carry enough ammunition with me, that I could handle myself (.22LR or 9mm would be excellent, and so would a 7.62 NATO or something small like that). Course, you could always raid uninhabited houses for extra ammuntion; though you'd have to be careful they are uninhabited and the previous owners aren't sitting there dead waiting to eat your brains and flesh.

And for best melee weapon would have to be something like a sword or knife. (Depending where you are.) Obviously if you're smart, you're not going to attack a horde of zombies with a sword or knife, but one or two alone you could. It'd be a lot easier to wedge around than a pistol would, and you wouldn't have to worry about reloading it. So something like that for close and easy reach would be ideal as a melee weapon.
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I suspect in reality, and not through video games, most people would have a very hard time shooting a neighbor, family member, or friend, or even just some random person who may or may not be a zombie, but be a threat. They'd really have to learn how to handle dealing with the situation, and most people would probably be killed not just by zombies, but by the chaos, thus killing each other out of fear or some sort of accident.

Personally, I wouldn't have all that hard of a time with it, but under certain circumstance I would. Like children and stuff I would have a problem with killing, but then my prehistoric man instinct of survival would kick in along with my Marine instinct, and I'd probably get through it well enough to know that it has to be done.

You can do what ever you want if you put your mind to it. science.

Just read Zombie Survival Guide (picked it up for sale along with World War Z, Score!), so I feel much more educated on this possible threat of the future.

First off, you have to acknowledge that during the first weeks, you will be competing with the entire world on finding a safe spot. One place that I know that no one would bother going to would be a Zoo. You see, you have a supply of edible food, and even have animals for that purpose. Of course, this place would only be good if the virus only infected humans.

According to the survival guide, the best firearm is an accurate, single shot rifle. Shotguns are a close one due to their stopping power. Anything else is pretty bad unless you are trained it that weapon.

And finally for melee weapons, my vote goes for the crowbar. Mostly because it is practical, and can be easily obtainable. However, for full out zombie killing, the weapon of choice is easily the Katana. Light, and deadly. Get one with a long reach, and you can take on the whole zombie army. However, that's not advised, if you like living.

Can't believe I learned so much from a fictional book. Pick up a copy of the Zombie Survival Guide, it's written in a style that makes it feel like it really could be used to help you if there were zombies. However, the book applies the slow, stupid, can only be killed by destroying the brain type of zombies only. No fast, mutated, or smart zombies to be found.

Sure, if you can swing it as fast as Gordon!!!


Why not? It take [censored] it's host in an hour, that's minimal.


Tell your opinion to Max Brooks not me!


They lose their brain function over time, like zombified stalkers that turn into zombied(stalker: oblivion lost). At first increased agression, no attack. Then loss of memory. Then attack with tool(s.th around him/her). Then attack with bare hands. Then [censored] mind, cannibalism and attack like an animal.


I agree.


Read the book(for third time) so long age(3 years) so I may be wrong but now that I think Rifle was best but I don't think SMG wasn't a good choice.

That means when they still know to break into buildings they still have thought, and possibly personality traits that carry over. Genius zombie, everyone is screwed. Every other variation can be dealt with via hiding or guns. Costco is a good call. I'd prefer a tower.

And have you read the 'I am Legend' book?

They'll eventually end up dumb, And no, I didn't read it.

Its a pretty good read. It covers what you are talking about, a little bit, only with vampire arch-types.
But no will smith, or corvette.

Exactly how do you expect to get your hands on one of those? That's the kind of thing you have to shell out cash to import from japan, and would be nigh impossible to find in most communities. An axe is a much more likely find, and if you had to have a sword, Ceremonial military Swords are much more likely in the U.S then Katana's. If you know a west point graduate, they should have a cadet's saber somewhere, along with the ceremonial army sword.

Zombies better exist. It's about the only way I can justify some of my firearm purchases.

That said, zombie weapons of choice.

If stationary (held up in an elevated position with very few - if any - entrance points)
Primary long gun: Remington 700 in .308. Simple bolt action rifle that with a decent scope is useful out of 1000+ yards (though I wouldn't risk the ammo on these shots). Bolt actions and extreme accuracy are paramount for conserving ammo (you aren't mobile, so finding ammo isn't an option). Easy to dispatch aggressors with one shot through the dome inside 500 yds with this rifle though.

Secondary long gun: Saiga 12 ga. Used in case of zombie entry into hold up. Semi auto beats out pump for speed of follow-up shot (there will likely be a flood of zombies if a breach occurs). The saiga's magazine fed feature eliminates the annoyingly long reload time of most shotguns.

Sidearm: Beretta 92fs w/ lasergrips. Reliability and service life of the Beretta 92 is among the highest of all pistols. 9mm for ammo capacity and accuracy (follow up shots are easier due to less recoil - JHP ammo will solve the stopping power issue provided the zombies aren't wearing body armor). Lasergrips to ensure you don't miss and waste ammo.

If on the move:
Long gun: Sig 556 with ACOG and Surefire. Similar to AR15 platform thus increasing parts availability, but runs cleaner than an AR thus increasing lifespan and rounds between cleanings. 5.56 cal due to ammo availability and recoil/muzzle flash being low enough to use in extreme close quarters (I will not be carrying a shotgun here since two long guns isn't practical on one body). Effective from 1m to 500m.

Sidearm: Pair of Beretta 92fs w/ lasergrips in a New York Reload holster. Same reasons as before, just a second one since I have no shotgun.

BUG (back up gun - a cop once told me that the rule of carrying a gun in a dangerous area is "A pair and a spare"): FN Five-SeveN. Extrememly high ammo capacity and efficetive range (for a pistol). Isn't primary sidearm due to ammo being difficult to find and maintenance being more difficult.

Not even a high cap 1911 as a back up? 45 ammo isn't that uncommon.
After a 9 mm that would be my go to...my go to 2 gun if you will.

Also, I'd like to raid a Cabelas and practice some reloading as an alternative to scrounging. Maybe [take] a look for a furnace and mold set too.

Reloading wouldn't be that great of an idea,I still support my roof of Walmart plan since there's nearly endless ammo there,and if you run out of ammo for what you have they have a bunch of other guns in stock,you'd never run out if you got to Walmart first and guarded it with a couple others.

Guess 10 years later if you were still alive it would be a great skill to have,for bartering with the surviving population..as said though,if you had a Walmart to yourself you would -never- run out of ammo.

No. The 1911 platform simply isn't reliable with double-stack magazines. Don't get me wrong, I love 1911's and carry one daily back home, and would trust my life to it in a heartbeat, but it doesn't fit this type of situation. Single stack would be too small of an ammo capacity for the scenario and double stack 1911's can't be trusted (IMO) to perform flawlessly. Plus in regards to .45 ammo - in this type of SHTF situation, you'll be needed to put a lot of accurate rounds down range on a lot of targets. Even a high cap 1911 isn't going to hold that many rounds, and due to recoil, target reaquisition is slower with the .45 than with the 9mm. That said, if you absolutely MUST have a .45 that can hold more than 10 rounds - HK USP .45 would be the best choice in my book.

And yes, if you could get good at reloading ammo, that would start to become an invaluable skill as time went on.

Well, then.


Dibs. :mellow:

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I was thinking the single stack lengthened magazines. But the targeting is a good call.
I figure by the time I am at back-up #2 I would be a bit frantic. If something does hit I would like some stopping power. So the bigger caliber is more for my lack of nerve / accuracy.

We should decide on a Walmart to all meet up at if zombies take the world over,I'd totally be up for pwning some zombie n00bs with you guys.


Also,as for the pistol choice while it wouldn't be as good in terms of ammo,a Revolver would last much longer and be much easier to maintain then any thing else,I doubt you would last long against hoards regardless with a pistol,a Revolver would be an easy pick up and go kind of weapon,good for "casual" tasks like having protection while you leave your safety for water/ect.

Mags are the same length. Double stacks just fatten the grip (which I dont like...the feel of a single stack magazine grip is why I love 1911's). And I feel the same way...if I'm on my last weapon I'm gonna be scared [censored]less too. Hence the FN Five-SeveN. 20 round mag and every bit as accurate as a full size 1911 without the weight or recoil. My aim will be awful in a terrified sprint so I want a lot of rounds.

Heh...this is turning into quite the serious discussion.

I'm up for it. Anyone near Seattle?
Actually, I should try to run from the extremely populated areas.

So we need one more person. We can have support, over watch, field, and tech/healer.
I call not it on the tech/healer.

[edit] Wind with the classic revolver, Volvagia with high cap, me with a M9 and 45. I am thinking someone else carries around the Judge just for shock and awe.

I'm in Alabama,best place other then somewhere like Alaska imo.

They'd never find me here.

And...put a pump action .12 gauge in my hands and I'll be rippin' some zombie face,I dislike semi-auto's though. :/

Grab a boat and head to sea. Make port for resupplies every now and again, and maybe a bigger boat. Ma Duce would be my weapon of choice, with a pump shottie and plenty of explosives as backups.